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I am an online instructor at a Community College. I ask that students to
submit files by email. When students email me files (Word, PP, Excel; Office
2003 and Office 2007) the Created date is stamped but the Modified and
Accessed date changes to reflect the current day. This makes it impossible
to assess the authorship and protect the integrity work if all the students
start with the same pre-created file. Believe it or not (wink, wink) I have
had students sumbit eachother's work as their own. Short of asking that
students submit files on a disk, is there a way for the Modified date to be
static and not change when emailed or downloaded? Are there any other ways
to detect or prevent plagiarism with WinXP or Office. Other than Compare and
Merge or File Properties.


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Answered in one of your other posts.

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"lori" wrote in message
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I am an online instructor at a Community College. I ask that students to
submit files by email. When students email me files (Word, PP, Excel;
Office
2003 and Office 2007) the Created date is stamped but the Modified and
Accessed date changes to reflect the current day. This makes it
impossible
to assess the authorship and protect the integrity work if all the
students
start with the same pre-created file. Believe it or not (wink, wink) I
have
had students sumbit eachother's work as their own. Short of asking that
students submit files on a disk, is there a way for the Modified date to
be
static and not change when emailed or downloaded? Are there any other
ways
to detect or prevent plagiarism with WinXP or Office. Other than Compare
and
Merge or File Properties.



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I would appreciate the answer to this -- or at least a reference to where I
might find it. I searched this newsgroup -- didn't find it. Is it in
another?

Thank you.

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Kathryn Groves


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
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Answered in one of your other posts.

Please do not make multiple posts: if you must post a message to more than
one Newsgroup, use cross-posting: see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting

--
Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP

"lori" wrote in message
...
I am an online instructor at a Community College. I ask that students to
submit files by email. When students email me files (Word, PP, Excel;
Office
2003 and Office 2007) the Created date is stamped but the Modified and
Accessed date changes to reflect the current day. This makes it
impossible
to assess the authorship and protect the integrity work if all the
students
start with the same pre-created file. Believe it or not (wink, wink) I
have
had students sumbit eachother's work as their own. Short of asking that
students submit files on a disk, is there a way for the Modified date to
be
static and not change when emailed or downloaded? Are there any other
ways
to detect or prevent plagiarism with WinXP or Office. Other than Compare
and
Merge or File Properties.





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Don't *you* remember where you posted?

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"Kate G." wrote in message
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I would appreciate the answer to this -- or at least a reference to where

I
might find it. I searched this newsgroup -- didn't find it. Is it in
another?

Thank you.

--

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kathryn Groves


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
Answered in one of your other posts.

Please do not make multiple posts: if you must post a message to more

than
one Newsgroup, use cross-posting: see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting

--
Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP

"lori" wrote in message
...
I am an online instructor at a Community College. I ask that students

to
submit files by email. When students email me files (Word, PP, Excel;
Office
2003 and Office 2007) the Created date is stamped but the Modified and
Accessed date changes to reflect the current day. This makes it
impossible
to assess the authorship and protect the integrity work if all the
students
start with the same pre-created file. Believe it or not (wink, wink) I
have
had students sumbit eachother's work as their own. Short of asking

that
students submit files on a disk, is there a way for the Modified date

to
be
static and not change when emailed or downloaded? Are there any other
ways
to detect or prevent plagiarism with WinXP or Office. Other than

Compare
and
Merge or File Properties.






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Suzanne

I don't think this was from the original poster. Another reason not to
multi-post!

Terry

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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Don't *you* remember where you posted?

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so
all may benefit.

"Kate G." wrote in message
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I would appreciate the answer to this -- or at least a reference to where

I
might find it. I searched this newsgroup -- didn't find it. Is it in
another?

Thank you.

--

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kathryn Groves


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
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Answered in one of your other posts.

Please do not make multiple posts: if you must post a message to more

than
one Newsgroup, use cross-posting: see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting

--
Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP

"lori" wrote in message
...
I am an online instructor at a Community College. I ask that students

to
submit files by email. When students email me files (Word, PP, Excel;
Office
2003 and Office 2007) the Created date is stamped but the Modified and
Accessed date changes to reflect the current day. This makes it
impossible
to assess the authorship and protect the integrity work if all the
students
start with the same pre-created file. Believe it or not (wink, wink)
I
have
had students sumbit eachother's work as their own. Short of asking

that
students submit files on a disk, is there a way for the Modified date

to
be
static and not change when emailed or downloaded? Are there any other
ways
to detect or prevent plagiarism with WinXP or Office. Other than

Compare
and
Merge or File Properties.









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Hi Kate

The answer I gave was...

You can get meta data analysis tools that will let you track loads of
information such as which PC(s) it was opened or edited on and who was
logged in, the times of edit , by whom and other incriminating evidence. But
it also easy to sanitize a document - especially in Word 2007 - so that you
can find absolutely nothing (although that in itself is pretty incriminating
evidence). g

Kids are very intelligent and if you even hint that you can analyse their
work and see who has been plagiarising, VERY quickly they will find the
sanitising tools.

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"Kate G." wrote in message
...
I would appreciate the answer to this -- or at least a reference to where I
might find it. I searched this newsgroup -- didn't find it. Is it in
another?

Thank you.

--

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kathryn Groves


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
Answered in one of your other posts.

Please do not make multiple posts: if you must post a message to more
than one Newsgroup, use cross-posting: see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting

--
Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP

"lori" wrote in message
...
I am an online instructor at a Community College. I ask that students to
submit files by email. When students email me files (Word, PP, Excel;
Office
2003 and Office 2007) the Created date is stamped but the Modified and
Accessed date changes to reflect the current day. This makes it
impossible
to assess the authorship and protect the integrity work if all the
students
start with the same pre-created file. Believe it or not (wink, wink) I
have
had students sumbit eachother's work as their own. Short of asking that
students submit files on a disk, is there a way for the Modified date to
be
static and not change when emailed or downloaded? Are there any other
ways
to detect or prevent plagiarism with WinXP or Office. Other than
Compare and
Merge or File Properties.






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