[Holly in the UK]

I have a customer who insists they want 2 spaces after full stops.

I have set up a template for them and in the normal style there are
instances where if the full stop is at the end of the line, one space is on
that line and the second space is on the second line, which means the second
line is out of alignment as it effectively has a space at the beginning.

This is not happening on other documents and with other styles in the
document so it suggests it is a style based problem.

I've tried creating a new body text or normal style and it is retaining the
problem.

Can someone tell me what is causing this and how to put it right?

Thanks
--
Regards

Holly

[CyberTaz]

Hi Holly -

Actually it *isn't* working strangely - it's working exactly as it's
supposed to based on proportional spacing.

A space is a stand-alone character (not something found in the middle of 'a'
word), so that's where the line breaks are going to occur when the text
wraps. It isn't a matter of a style or anything you can universally control
on a conditional basis - if that's what they insist on they'll have to learn
when, where & how to type non-breaking spaces - a chore that will bog down
even the best typist & paralyze workflow ... Not to mention the detriments
to formatting and further revision of the doc.

I appreciate your desire to give the client what they want, but the real
problem is that they are stuck in an Industrial Age mentality re document
construction . The "2 spaces" technique was an improvised attempt to
overcome the shortcomings of mono-spaced manual typewriters, whereas current
technology is intended to deliver typeset results without the manipulation.

Good Luck |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 2/1/07 5:59 AM, in article
, "Holly in the UK"
wrote:

I have a customer who insists they want 2 spaces after full stops.

I have set up a template for them and in the normal style there are
instances where if the full stop is at the end of the line, one space is on
that line and the second space is on the second line, which means the second
line is out of alignment as it effectively has a space at the beginning.

This is not happening on other documents and with other styles in the
document so it suggests it is a style based problem.

I've tried creating a new body text or normal style and it is retaining the
problem.

Can someone tell me what is causing this and how to put it right?

Thanks

[Holly in the UK]

Thanks, and I appreciate your comments.

What puzzles me though is that is works perfectly and consistently in some
docs and not in others.

What I mean is that if it does drop a space to the next line, it always does
so in that document. If it doesn't drop the space to the next line, then it
consistently doesn't for that other whole document. If it was arbitary I
could appreciate it being a proportional spacing issue, but the fact that it
behaves differently in different documents does not appear to support that,
otherwise it should be consistent. DO you know if there is any reason why
this should be the case?
--
Regards

Holly


"CyberTaz" wrote:

Hi Holly -

Actually it *isn't* working strangely - it's working exactly as it's
supposed to based on proportional spacing.

A space is a stand-alone character (not something found in the middle of 'a'
word), so that's where the line breaks are going to occur when the text
wraps. It isn't a matter of a style or anything you can universally control
on a conditional basis - if that's what they insist on they'll have to learn
when, where & how to type non-breaking spaces - a chore that will bog down
even the best typist & paralyze workflow ... Not to mention the detriments
to formatting and further revision of the doc.

I appreciate your desire to give the client what they want, but the real
problem is that they are stuck in an Industrial Age mentality re document
construction . The "2 spaces" technique was an improvised attempt to
overcome the shortcomings of mono-spaced manual typewriters, whereas current
technology is intended to deliver typeset results without the manipulation.

Good Luck |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 2/1/07 5:59 AM, in article
, "Holly in the UK"
wrote:

I have a customer who insists they want 2 spaces after full stops.

I have set up a template for them and in the normal style there are
instances where if the full stop is at the end of the line, one space is on
that line and the second space is on the second line, which means the second
line is out of alignment as it effectively has a space at the beginning.

This is not happening on other documents and with other styles in the
document so it suggests it is a style based problem.

I've tried creating a new body text or normal style and it is retaining the
problem.

Can someone tell me what is causing this and how to put it right?

Thanks

[Stefan Blom]

In Tools | Options, Compatibility tab, see if "Wrap trailing spaces to
next line" is checked. If so, clear it. Repeat for each affected
document.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Holly in the UK" wrote in message
...
Thanks, and I appreciate your comments.

What puzzles me though is that is works perfectly and consistently
in some
docs and not in others.

What I mean is that if it does drop a space to the next line, it
always does
so in that document. If it doesn't drop the space to the next line,
then it
consistently doesn't for that other whole document. If it was
arbitary I
could appreciate it being a proportional spacing issue, but the fact
that it
behaves differently in different documents does not appear to
support that,
otherwise it should be consistent. DO you know if there is any
reason why
this should be the case?
--
Regards

Holly


"CyberTaz" wrote:

Hi Holly -

Actually it *isn't* working strangely - it's working exactly as
it's
supposed to based on proportional spacing.

A space is a stand-alone character (not something found in the
middle of 'a'
word), so that's where the line breaks are going to occur when the
text
wraps. It isn't a matter of a style or anything you can
universally control
on a conditional basis - if that's what they insist on they'll
have to learn
when, where & how to type non-breaking spaces - a chore that will
bog down
even the best typist & paralyze workflow ... Not to mention the
detriments
to formatting and further revision of the doc.

I appreciate your desire to give the client what they want, but
the real
problem is that they are stuck in an Industrial Age mentality re
document
construction . The "2 spaces" technique was an improvised
attempt to
overcome the shortcomings of mono-spaced manual typewriters,
whereas current
technology is intended to deliver typeset results without the
manipulation.

Good Luck |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 2/1/07 5:59 AM, in article
, "Holly in the
UK"
wrote:

I have a customer who insists they want 2 spaces after full
stops.

I have set up a template for them and in the normal style there
are
instances where if the full stop is at the end of the line, one
space is on
that line and the second space is on the second line, which
means the second
line is out of alignment as it effectively has a space at the
beginning.

This is not happening on other documents and with other styles
in the
document so it suggests it is a style based problem.

I've tried creating a new body text or normal style and it is
retaining the
problem.

Can someone tell me what is causing this and how to put it
right?

Thanks

[Holly in the UK]

Thanks Stefan, that has worked perfectly. I learn something new every day!
--
Regards

Holly


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

In Tools | Options, Compatibility tab, see if "Wrap trailing spaces to
next line" is checked. If so, clear it. Repeat for each affected
document.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

[Stefan Blom]

You are welcome.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Holly in the UK" wrote in message
...
Thanks Stefan, that has worked perfectly. I learn something new
every day!
--
Regards

Holly


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

In Tools | Options, Compatibility tab, see if "Wrap trailing
spaces to
next line" is checked. If so, clear it. Repeat for each affected
document.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP