[cayce]

How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style I
have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering when a
numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening
paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the paragraph
is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph which
are controlled by the hanging indent tab.

Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the exact
reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point vary
whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent?

Any ideas on this would be helpful.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in the
Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your numbered
paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs.

First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all tab
stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph
indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in first-line
and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and
then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style
I
have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering
when a
numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening
paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the
paragraph
is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph
which
are controlled by the hanging indent tab.

Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the
exact
reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point
vary
whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent?

Any ideas on this would be helpful.

[cayce]

Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word inserting a
tab. Here's what I did to the offending style.
1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog (it had
been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog of .95)
2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set to
the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15)
3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all
4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog that the
number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what they
had been previously defined. They were.
5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent I had
set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement isnt
the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance when
measured from the number position set in the outline numbering)

The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the right) of
the left indent and hanging indent.

How can I prevent Word from doing this.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in the
Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your numbered
paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs.

First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all tab
stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph
indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in first-line
and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and
then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style
I
have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering
when a
numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening
paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the
paragraph
is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph
which
are controlled by the hanging indent tab.

Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the
exact
reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point
vary
whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent?

Any ideas on this would be helpful.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility) "Don't add
automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too, that you
don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that any
settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the Numbering
dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word
inserting a
tab. Here's what I did to the offending style.
1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog (it
had
been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog of
..95)
2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set to
the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15)
3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all
4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog that
the
number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what they
had been previously defined. They were.
5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent I
had
set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement isn
t
the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance when
measured from the number position set in the outline numbering)

The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the right)
of
the left indent and hanging indent.

How can I prevent Word from doing this.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in
the
Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your
numbered
paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs.

First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all
tab
stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph
indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in
first-line
and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and
then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering
style
I
have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering
when a
numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by
intervening
paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the
paragraph
is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph
which
are controlled by the hanging indent tab.

Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the
exact
reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point
vary
whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent?

Any ideas on this would be helpful.

[cayce]

I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility.

For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the offending
paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another non-numbering
style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I set the
newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added in again by
Word.

Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep doing this?

Thanks in advance.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility) "Don't add
automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too, that you
don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that any
settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the Numbering
dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word
inserting a
tab. Here's what I did to the offending style.
1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog (it
had
been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog of
..95)
2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set to
the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15)
3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all
4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog that
the
number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what they
had been previously defined. They were.
5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent I
had
set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement isn
t
the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance when
measured from the number position set in the outline numbering)

The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the right)
of
the left indent and hanging indent.

How can I prevent Word from doing this.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in
the
Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your
numbered
paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs.

First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all
tab
stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph
indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in
first-line
and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and
then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering
style
I
have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering
when a
numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by
intervening
paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the
paragraph
is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph
which
are controlled by the hanging indent tab.

Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the
exact
reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point
vary
whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent?

Any ideas on this would be helpful.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to help.
But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility.

For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the
offending
paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another non-numbering
style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I set the
newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added in again
by
Word.

Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep doing
this?

Thanks in advance.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility) "Don't
add
automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too, that
you
don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that any
settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the
Numbering
dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word
inserting a
tab. Here's what I did to the offending style.
1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog
(it
had
been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog
of
..95)
2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set
to
the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15)
3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all
4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog
that
the
number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what
they
had been previously defined. They were.
5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent
I
had
set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement
isn
t
the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance
when
measured from the number position set in the outline numbering)

The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the
right)
of
the left indent and hanging indent.

How can I prevent Word from doing this.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not
in
the
Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your
numbered
paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs.

First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of
all
tab
stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any
paragraph
indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in
first-line
and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler
and
then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a
numbering
style
I
have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the
numbering
when a
numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by
intervening
paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the
paragraph
is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the
paragraph
which
are controlled by the hanging indent tab.

Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is
the
exact
reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference
point
vary
whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent?

Any ideas on this would be helpful.

[cayce]

Suzanne:

I went back and re-read the compatibility wording and you are absolutley
right. It needed to be checked. I did this and then reset numbering again and
got the same problem.

I went the the article you provided a link for. As this article talks about
TOC tabs, it isn't quite the same situation I am facing. But, bottom line, it
sounds like I am dealing with a bug in software. Is that a safe assessment?

Finally, what in the heck are Jason tabs anyhow (mentioned in article)?

thanks again for helping to educate me.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to help.
But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility.

For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the
offending
paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another non-numbering
style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I set the
newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added in again
by
Word.

Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep doing
this?

Thanks in advance.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility) "Don't
add
automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too, that
you
don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that any
settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the
Numbering
dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word
inserting a
tab. Here's what I did to the offending style.
1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog
(it
had
been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog
of
..95)
2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set
to
the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15)
3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all
4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog
that
the
number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what
they
had been previously defined. They were.
5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent
I
had
set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement
isn
t
the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance
when
measured from the number position set in the outline numbering)

The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the
right)
of
the left indent and hanging indent.

How can I prevent Word from doing this.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not
in
the
Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your
numbered
paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs.

First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of
all
tab
stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any
paragraph
indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in
first-line
and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler
and
then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a
numbering
style
I
have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the
numbering
when a
numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by
intervening
paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the
paragraph
is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the
paragraph
which
are controlled by the hanging indent tab.

Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is
the
exact
reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference
point
vary
whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent?

Any ideas on this would be helpful.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Jason tabs are tabs that keep coming back (reference to some horror movie or
other--I can never remember whether it's "Friday the Thirteenth" or
"Nightmare on Elm Street" or some other--okay, Google says it's "Friday the
Thirteenth").

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
news

Suzanne:

I went back and re-read the compatibility wording and you are absolutley
right. It needed to be checked. I did this and then reset numbering again
and
got the same problem.

I went the the article you provided a link for. As this article talks
about
TOC tabs, it isn't quite the same situation I am facing. But, bottom line,
it
sounds like I am dealing with a bug in software. Is that a safe
assessment?

Finally, what in the heck are Jason tabs anyhow (mentioned in article)?

thanks again for helping to educate me.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to
help.
But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility.

For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the
offending
paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another
non-numbering
style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I set
the
newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added in
again
by
Word.

Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep doing
this?

Thanks in advance.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility)
"Don't
add
automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too,
that
you
don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that
any
settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the
Numbering
dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word
inserting a
tab. Here's what I did to the offending style.
1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph
dialog
(it
had
been set to match the number position in the outline numbering
dialog
of
..95)
2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been
set
to
the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of
1.15)
3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all
4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize
dialog
that
the
number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to
what
they
had been previously defined. They were.
5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging
indent
I
had
set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2
measurement
isn
t
the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct
distance
when
measured from the number position set in the outline numbering)

The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the
right)
of
the left indent and hanging indent.

How can I prevent Word from doing this.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog,
not
in
the
Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in
your
numbered
paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs.

First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position
of
all
tab
stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any
paragraph
indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in
first-line
and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the
ruler
and
then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a
numbering
style
I
have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the
numbering
when a
numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by
intervening
paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of
the
paragraph
is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the
paragraph
which
are controlled by the hanging indent tab.

Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style,
what is
the
exact
reference point it is using to measure from? Does this
reference
point
vary
whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent?

Any ideas on this would be helpful.

[cayce]

Ok. Jason tabs= Friday the 13th.

The other question I had is do you think what I am experiencing is a bug in
software? I reset the compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility |
Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent). I then reset numbering
again and got the same problem of Word creating a tab.

I do not know where else to look.



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Jason tabs are tabs that keep coming back (reference to some horror movie or
other--I can never remember whether it's "Friday the Thirteenth" or
"Nightmare on Elm Street" or some other--okay, Google says it's "Friday the
Thirteenth").

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
news

Suzanne:

I went back and re-read the compatibility wording and you are absolutley
right. It needed to be checked. I did this and then reset numbering again
and
got the same problem.

I went the the article you provided a link for. As this article talks
about
TOC tabs, it isn't quite the same situation I am facing. But, bottom line,
it
sounds like I am dealing with a bug in software. Is that a safe
assessment?

Finally, what in the heck are Jason tabs anyhow (mentioned in article)?

thanks again for helping to educate me.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to
help.
But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility.

For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the
offending
paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another
non-numbering
style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I set
the
newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added in
again
by
Word.

Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep doing
this?

Thanks in advance.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility)
"Don't
add
automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too,
that
you
don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that
any
settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the
Numbering
dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word
inserting a
tab. Here's what I did to the offending style.
1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph
dialog
(it
had
been set to match the number position in the outline numbering
dialog
of
..95)
2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been
set
to
the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of
1.15)
3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all
4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize
dialog
that
the
number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to
what
they
had been previously defined. They were.
5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging
indent
I
had
set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2
measurement
isn
t
the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct
distance
when
measured from the number position set in the outline numbering)

The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the
right)
of
the left indent and hanging indent.

How can I prevent Word from doing this.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog,
not
in
the
Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in
your
numbered
paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs.

First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position
of
all
tab
stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any
paragraph
indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in
first-line
and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the
ruler
and
then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a
numbering
style
I
have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the
numbering
when a
numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by
intervening
paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of
the
paragraph
is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the
paragraph
which
are controlled by the hanging indent tab.

Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style,
what is
the
exact
reference point it is using to measure from? Does this
reference
point
vary
whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent?

Any ideas on this would be helpful.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

It's definitely a bug in the software, as the article says at the outset.
The article states the only known workarounds/solutions.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
Ok. Jason tabs= Friday the 13th.

The other question I had is do you think what I am experiencing is a bug
in
software? I reset the compatibility option (Tools | Options |
Compatibility |
Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent). I then reset numbering
again and got the same problem of Word creating a tab.

I do not know where else to look.



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Jason tabs are tabs that keep coming back (reference to some horror
movie or
other--I can never remember whether it's "Friday the Thirteenth" or
"Nightmare on Elm Street" or some other--okay, Google says it's "Friday
the
Thirteenth").

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
news

Suzanne:

I went back and re-read the compatibility wording and you are
absolutley
right. It needed to be checked. I did this and then reset numbering
again
and
got the same problem.

I went the the article you provided a link for. As this article talks
about
TOC tabs, it isn't quite the same situation I am facing. But, bottom
line,
it
sounds like I am dealing with a bug in software. Is that a safe
assessment?

Finally, what in the heck are Jason tabs anyhow (mentioned in
article)?

thanks again for helping to educate me.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to
help.
But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility.

For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the
offending
paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another
non-numbering
style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I
set
the
newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added
in
again
by
Word.

Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep
doing
this?

Thanks in advance.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility)
"Don't
add
automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note,
too,
that
you
don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware
that
any
settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in
the
Numbering
dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with
Word
inserting a
tab. Here's what I did to the offending style.
1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph
dialog
(it
had
been set to match the number position in the outline numbering
dialog
of
..95)
2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had
been
set
to
the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of
1.15)
3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all
4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize
dialog
that
the
number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set
to
what
they
had been previously defined. They were.
5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the
hanging
indent
I
had
set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2
measurement
isn
t
the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct
distance
when
measured from the number position set in the outline
numbering)

The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to
the
right)
of
the left indent and hanging indent.

How can I prevent Word from doing this.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering
dialog,
not
in
the
Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in
your
numbered
paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs.

First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The
position
of
all
tab
stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of
any
paragraph
indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements
in
first-line
and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on
the
ruler
and
then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a
numbering
style
I
have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart
the
numbering
when a
numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list
by
intervening
paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st
line of
the
paragraph
is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in
the
paragraph
which
are controlled by the hanging indent tab.

Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style,
what is
the
exact
reference point it is using to measure from? Does this
reference
point
vary
whether defining a hanging indent versus first line
indent?

Any ideas on this would be helpful.

[cayce]

thanks Suzanne once again.

Namaste

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It's definitely a bug in the software, as the article says at the outset.
The article states the only known workarounds/solutions.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
Ok. Jason tabs= Friday the 13th.

The other question I had is do you think what I am experiencing is a bug
in
software? I reset the compatibility option (Tools | Options |
Compatibility |
Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent). I then reset numbering
again and got the same problem of Word creating a tab.

I do not know where else to look.



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Jason tabs are tabs that keep coming back (reference to some horror
movie or
other--I can never remember whether it's "Friday the Thirteenth" or
"Nightmare on Elm Street" or some other--okay, Google says it's "Friday
the
Thirteenth").

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
news
Suzanne:

I went back and re-read the compatibility wording and you are
absolutley
right. It needed to be checked. I did this and then reset numbering
again
and
got the same problem.

I went the the article you provided a link for. As this article talks
about
TOC tabs, it isn't quite the same situation I am facing. But, bottom
line,
it
sounds like I am dealing with a bug in software. Is that a safe
assessment?

Finally, what in the heck are Jason tabs anyhow (mentioned in
article)?

thanks again for helping to educate me.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to
help.
But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility.

For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the
offending
paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another
non-numbering
style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I
set
the
newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added
in
again
by
Word.

Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep
doing
this?

Thanks in advance.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility)
"Don't
add
automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note,
too,
that
you
don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware
that
any
settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in
the
Numbering
dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with
Word
inserting a
tab. Here's what I did to the offending style.
1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph
dialog
(it
had
been set to match the number position in the outline numbering
dialog
of
..95)
2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had
been
set
to
the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of
1.15)
3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all
4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize
dialog
that
the
number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set
to
what
they
had been previously defined. They were.
5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the
hanging
indent
I
had
set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2
measurement
isn
t
the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct
distance
when
measured from the number position set in the outline
numbering)

The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to
the
right)
of
the left indent and hanging indent.

How can I prevent Word from doing this.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering
dialog,
not
in
the
Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in
your
numbered
paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs.

First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The
position
of
all
tab
stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of
any
paragraph
indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements
in
first-line
and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on
the
ruler
and
then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a
numbering
style
I
have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart
the
numbering
when a
numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list
by
intervening
paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st
line of
the
paragraph
is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in
the
paragraph
which
are controlled by the hanging indent tab.

Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style,
what is
the
exact
reference point it is using to measure from? Does this
reference
point
vary
whether defining a hanging indent versus first line
indent?

Any ideas on this would be helpful.

[cayce]

thanks Suzanne once again.

Namaste

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It's definitely a bug in the software, as the article says at the outset.
The article states the only known workarounds/solutions.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
Ok. Jason tabs= Friday the 13th.

The other question I had is do you think what I am experiencing is a bug
in
software? I reset the compatibility option (Tools | Options |
Compatibility |
Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent). I then reset numbering
again and got the same problem of Word creating a tab.

I do not know where else to look.



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Jason tabs are tabs that keep coming back (reference to some horror
movie or
other--I can never remember whether it's "Friday the Thirteenth" or
"Nightmare on Elm Street" or some other--okay, Google says it's "Friday
the
Thirteenth").

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
news
Suzanne:

I went back and re-read the compatibility wording and you are
absolutley
right. It needed to be checked. I did this and then reset numbering
again
and
got the same problem.

I went the the article you provided a link for. As this article talks
about
TOC tabs, it isn't quite the same situation I am facing. But, bottom
line,
it
sounds like I am dealing with a bug in software. Is that a safe
assessment?

Finally, what in the heck are Jason tabs anyhow (mentioned in
article)?

thanks again for helping to educate me.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to
help.
But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility.

For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the
offending
paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another
non-numbering
style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I
set
the
newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added
in
again
by
Word.

Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep
doing
this?

Thanks in advance.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility)
"Don't
add
automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note,
too,
that
you
don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware
that
any
settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in
the
Numbering
dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with
Word
inserting a
tab. Here's what I did to the offending style.
1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph
dialog
(it
had
been set to match the number position in the outline numbering
dialog
of
..95)
2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had
been
set
to
the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of
1.15)
3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all
4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize
dialog
that
the
number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set
to
what
they
had been previously defined. They were.
5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the
hanging
indent
I
had
set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2
measurement
isn
t
the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct
distance
when
measured from the number position set in the outline
numbering)

The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to
the
right)
of
the left indent and hanging indent.

How can I prevent Word from doing this.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering
dialog,
not
in
the
Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in
your
numbered
paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs.

First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The
position
of
all
tab
stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of
any
paragraph
indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements
in
first-line
and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on
the
ruler
and
then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"cayce" wrote in message
...
How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a
numbering
style
I
have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart
the
numbering
when a
numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list
by
intervening
paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st
line of
the
paragraph
is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in
the
paragraph
which
are controlled by the hanging indent tab.

Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style,
what is
the
exact
reference point it is using to measure from? Does this
reference
point
vary
whether defining a hanging indent versus first line
indent?

Any ideas on this would be helpful.