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I have inherited a document with a TOC field. Every time I choose to update
the entire field, though, it goes haywire! I hope someone can help.

I have two styles used - Heading 1 and Heading 2. I believe they are both
resident in the document, and not necessarily the same as those styles in my
Normal template. At the moment, Heading 1 styles are formatted in the TOC
as bold, underlined, and no page number. Heading 2 styles are not bold or
underlined, and have a dotted tab leader to a right-aligned page number.
This is good and I want to keep it. The current field code is {TOC \O "1-2"
\Z}.

When I try to update the entire table, the Heading 1 styles are bold and
underlined, but have a page number, and the underline extends to the number.
The Heading 2 styles lose the dotted tab leader. Also, the tab setting is
changed to stop at mid-page. I've tried changing the TOC style when I
update, but it keeps getting worse!

It's probably time to start from scratch! What settings am I looking for
when I make this?

Ed


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Okay - after reading through some stuff on the Word FAQ site, Shauna Kelly's
site, and Suzanne Barnhill's site, I've got most of this resolved. I edited
my heading styles, reapplied the styles, and edited the field code to take
out numbering for Heading 1. (If anyone is just throwing out questions here
and not reading these articles, you are missing great wealth!)

I am currently left with only one major nagging issue (others will crop up,
I'm sure!): my page numbers don't align on the right side. That is, I
would like the right edges of my one-digit numbers to match the right edges
of my two-digit page numbers. I have "Right Align Numbers" checked, and
even modified the TOC style as "Justified". Nothing seems to work, though.
Any suggestions?

Ed

"Ed" wrote in message
...
I have inherited a document with a TOC field. Every time I choose to
update the entire field, though, it goes haywire! I hope someone can help.

I have two styles used - Heading 1 and Heading 2. I believe they are both
resident in the document, and not necessarily the same as those styles in
my Normal template. At the moment, Heading 1 styles are formatted in the
TOC as bold, underlined, and no page number. Heading 2 styles are not
bold or underlined, and have a dotted tab leader to a right-aligned page
number. This is good and I want to keep it. The current field code is
{TOC \O "1-2" \Z}.

When I try to update the entire table, the Heading 1 styles are bold and
underlined, but have a page number, and the underline extends to the
number. The Heading 2 styles lose the dotted tab leader. Also, the tab
setting is changed to stop at mid-page. I've tried changing the TOC style
when I update, but it keeps getting worse!

It's probably time to start from scratch! What settings am I looking for
when I make this?

Ed



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You probably just need to reinsert the right-aligned tab stop at the right
margin in the TOC 2 styles. When the TOC field "forgets" what it's doing wrt
numbering for some levels, this tab stop (which is generated dynamically)
also gets lost. If you're using the default 1.25" left and right margins
(does anyone ever?), the tab stop would be at 6" (though Word puts it at
5.99"); you'll need to adjust for your actual margins--look at the ruler for
guidance (and that's the easiest way to set the stop, too).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ed" wrote in message
...
Okay - after reading through some stuff on the Word FAQ site, Shauna

Kelly's
site, and Suzanne Barnhill's site, I've got most of this resolved. I

edited
my heading styles, reapplied the styles, and edited the field code to take
out numbering for Heading 1. (If anyone is just throwing out questions

here
and not reading these articles, you are missing great wealth!)

I am currently left with only one major nagging issue (others will crop

up,
I'm sure!): my page numbers don't align on the right side. That is, I
would like the right edges of my one-digit numbers to match the right

edges
of my two-digit page numbers. I have "Right Align Numbers" checked, and
even modified the TOC style as "Justified". Nothing seems to work,

though.
Any suggestions?

Ed

"Ed" wrote in message
...
I have inherited a document with a TOC field. Every time I choose to
update the entire field, though, it goes haywire! I hope someone can

help.

I have two styles used - Heading 1 and Heading 2. I believe they are

both
resident in the document, and not necessarily the same as those styles

in
my Normal template. At the moment, Heading 1 styles are formatted in

the
TOC as bold, underlined, and no page number. Heading 2 styles are not
bold or underlined, and have a dotted tab leader to a right-aligned page
number. This is good and I want to keep it. The current field code is
{TOC \O "1-2" \Z}.

When I try to update the entire table, the Heading 1 styles are bold and
underlined, but have a page number, and the underline extends to the
number. The Heading 2 styles lose the dotted tab leader. Also, the tab
setting is changed to stop at mid-page. I've tried changing the TOC

style
when I update, but it keeps getting worse!

It's probably time to start from scratch! What settings am I looking

for
when I make this?

Ed




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I'm not understanding you, Suzanne. I've got 1 inch left and right margins,
a left aligned tab with a dotted leader set for 6.2 inches, and I set a
right aligned tab with no leader at 6.48 inches. I then did an update ..
entire table, but the numbers still don't line up against the right edge. I
tried using the ruler and moved my tabs back and forth, but I still can't
get them to dance for me.

Ed

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You probably just need to reinsert the right-aligned tab stop at the right
margin in the TOC 2 styles. When the TOC field "forgets" what it's doing
wrt
numbering for some levels, this tab stop (which is generated dynamically)
also gets lost. If you're using the default 1.25" left and right margins
(does anyone ever?), the tab stop would be at 6" (though Word puts it at
5.99"); you'll need to adjust for your actual margins--look at the ruler
for
guidance (and that's the easiest way to set the stop, too).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Ed" wrote in message
...
Okay - after reading through some stuff on the Word FAQ site, Shauna

Kelly's
site, and Suzanne Barnhill's site, I've got most of this resolved. I

edited
my heading styles, reapplied the styles, and edited the field code to
take
out numbering for Heading 1. (If anyone is just throwing out questions

here
and not reading these articles, you are missing great wealth!)

I am currently left with only one major nagging issue (others will crop

up,
I'm sure!): my page numbers don't align on the right side. That is, I
would like the right edges of my one-digit numbers to match the right

edges
of my two-digit page numbers. I have "Right Align Numbers" checked, and
even modified the TOC style as "Justified". Nothing seems to work,

though.
Any suggestions?

Ed

"Ed" wrote in message
...
I have inherited a document with a TOC field. Every time I choose to
update the entire field, though, it goes haywire! I hope someone can

help.

I have two styles used - Heading 1 and Heading 2. I believe they are

both
resident in the document, and not necessarily the same as those styles

in
my Normal template. At the moment, Heading 1 styles are formatted in

the
TOC as bold, underlined, and no page number. Heading 2 styles are not
bold or underlined, and have a dotted tab leader to a right-aligned
page
number. This is good and I want to keep it. The current field code is
{TOC \O "1-2" \Z}.

When I try to update the entire table, the Heading 1 styles are bold
and
underlined, but have a page number, and the underline extends to the
number. The Heading 2 styles lose the dotted tab leader. Also, the tab
setting is changed to stop at mid-page. I've tried changing the TOC

style
when I update, but it keeps getting worse!

It's probably time to start from scratch! What settings am I looking

for
when I make this?

Ed






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Are they right aligned, but simply not at the right edge?

Are you modifying tab settings directly, or are you modifying the TOC 2
style definition? You need to modify the TOC 2 style definition if you want
the setting to survive updating the TOC field.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"Ed" wrote in message
...
I'm not understanding you, Suzanne. I've got 1 inch left and right
margins, a left aligned tab with a dotted leader set for 6.2 inches, and I
set a right aligned tab with no leader at 6.48 inches. I then did an
update .. entire table, but the numbers still don't line up against the
right edge. I tried using the ruler and moved my tabs back and forth, but
I still can't get them to dance for me.

Ed

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You probably just need to reinsert the right-aligned tab stop at the
right
margin in the TOC 2 styles. When the TOC field "forgets" what it's doing
wrt
numbering for some levels, this tab stop (which is generated dynamically)
also gets lost. If you're using the default 1.25" left and right margins
(does anyone ever?), the tab stop would be at 6" (though Word puts it at
5.99"); you'll need to adjust for your actual margins--look at the ruler
for
guidance (and that's the easiest way to set the stop, too).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Ed" wrote in message
...
Okay - after reading through some stuff on the Word FAQ site, Shauna

Kelly's
site, and Suzanne Barnhill's site, I've got most of this resolved. I

edited
my heading styles, reapplied the styles, and edited the field code to
take
out numbering for Heading 1. (If anyone is just throwing out questions

here
and not reading these articles, you are missing great wealth!)

I am currently left with only one major nagging issue (others will crop

up,
I'm sure!): my page numbers don't align on the right side. That is, I
would like the right edges of my one-digit numbers to match the right

edges
of my two-digit page numbers. I have "Right Align Numbers" checked, and
even modified the TOC style as "Justified". Nothing seems to work,

though.
Any suggestions?

Ed

"Ed" wrote in message
...
I have inherited a document with a TOC field. Every time I choose to
update the entire field, though, it goes haywire! I hope someone can

help.

I have two styles used - Heading 1 and Heading 2. I believe they are

both
resident in the document, and not necessarily the same as those styles

in
my Normal template. At the moment, Heading 1 styles are formatted in

the
TOC as bold, underlined, and no page number. Heading 2 styles are not
bold or underlined, and have a dotted tab leader to a right-aligned
page
number. This is good and I want to keep it. The current field code is
{TOC \O "1-2" \Z}.

When I try to update the entire table, the Heading 1 styles are bold
and
underlined, but have a page number, and the underline extends to the
number. The Heading 2 styles lose the dotted tab leader. Also, the
tab
setting is changed to stop at mid-page. I've tried changing the TOC

style
when I update, but it keeps getting worse!

It's probably time to start from scratch! What settings am I looking

for
when I make this?

Ed










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Modifications made to a TOC 2 paragraph usually suffice, however, since the
TOC styles by default are set to update automatically.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
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"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Are they right aligned, but simply not at the right edge?

Are you modifying tab settings directly, or are you modifying the TOC 2
style definition? You need to modify the TOC 2 style definition if you

want
the setting to survive updating the TOC field.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"Ed" wrote in message
...
I'm not understanding you, Suzanne. I've got 1 inch left and right
margins, a left aligned tab with a dotted leader set for 6.2 inches, and

I
set a right aligned tab with no leader at 6.48 inches. I then did an
update .. entire table, but the numbers still don't line up against the
right edge. I tried using the ruler and moved my tabs back and forth,

but
I still can't get them to dance for me.

Ed

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You probably just need to reinsert the right-aligned tab stop at the
right
margin in the TOC 2 styles. When the TOC field "forgets" what it's

doing
wrt
numbering for some levels, this tab stop (which is generated

dynamically)
also gets lost. If you're using the default 1.25" left and right

margins
(does anyone ever?), the tab stop would be at 6" (though Word puts it

at
5.99"); you'll need to adjust for your actual margins--look at the

ruler
for
guidance (and that's the easiest way to set the stop, too).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Ed" wrote in message
...
Okay - after reading through some stuff on the Word FAQ site, Shauna
Kelly's
site, and Suzanne Barnhill's site, I've got most of this resolved. I
edited
my heading styles, reapplied the styles, and edited the field code to
take
out numbering for Heading 1. (If anyone is just throwing out

questions
here
and not reading these articles, you are missing great wealth!)

I am currently left with only one major nagging issue (others will

crop
up,
I'm sure!): my page numbers don't align on the right side. That is,

I
would like the right edges of my one-digit numbers to match the right
edges
of my two-digit page numbers. I have "Right Align Numbers" checked,

and
even modified the TOC style as "Justified". Nothing seems to work,
though.
Any suggestions?

Ed

"Ed" wrote in message
...
I have inherited a document with a TOC field. Every time I choose to
update the entire field, though, it goes haywire! I hope someone can
help.

I have two styles used - Heading 1 and Heading 2. I believe they

are
both
resident in the document, and not necessarily the same as those

styles
in
my Normal template. At the moment, Heading 1 styles are formatted

in
the
TOC as bold, underlined, and no page number. Heading 2 styles are

not
bold or underlined, and have a dotted tab leader to a right-aligned
page
number. This is good and I want to keep it. The current field code

is
{TOC \O "1-2" \Z}.

When I try to update the entire table, the Heading 1 styles are bold
and
underlined, but have a page number, and the underline extends to the
number. The Heading 2 styles lose the dotted tab leader. Also, the
tab
setting is changed to stop at mid-page. I've tried changing the TOC
style
when I update, but it keeps getting worse!

It's probably time to start from scratch! What settings am I

looking
for
when I make this?

Ed









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I'm not sure what the problem could be, then, unless the 0.28" between tabs
is not enough to accommodate the longest numbers.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ed" wrote in message
...
I'm not understanding you, Suzanne. I've got 1 inch left and right

margins,
a left aligned tab with a dotted leader set for 6.2 inches, and I set a
right aligned tab with no leader at 6.48 inches. I then did an update ..
entire table, but the numbers still don't line up against the right edge.

I
tried using the ruler and moved my tabs back and forth, but I still can't
get them to dance for me.

Ed

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You probably just need to reinsert the right-aligned tab stop at the

right
margin in the TOC 2 styles. When the TOC field "forgets" what it's doing
wrt
numbering for some levels, this tab stop (which is generated

dynamically)
also gets lost. If you're using the default 1.25" left and right margins
(does anyone ever?), the tab stop would be at 6" (though Word puts it at
5.99"); you'll need to adjust for your actual margins--look at the ruler
for
guidance (and that's the easiest way to set the stop, too).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Ed" wrote in message
...
Okay - after reading through some stuff on the Word FAQ site, Shauna

Kelly's
site, and Suzanne Barnhill's site, I've got most of this resolved. I

edited
my heading styles, reapplied the styles, and edited the field code to
take
out numbering for Heading 1. (If anyone is just throwing out questions

here
and not reading these articles, you are missing great wealth!)

I am currently left with only one major nagging issue (others will crop

up,
I'm sure!): my page numbers don't align on the right side. That is, I
would like the right edges of my one-digit numbers to match the right

edges
of my two-digit page numbers. I have "Right Align Numbers" checked,

and
even modified the TOC style as "Justified". Nothing seems to work,

though.
Any suggestions?

Ed

"Ed" wrote in message
...
I have inherited a document with a TOC field. Every time I choose to
update the entire field, though, it goes haywire! I hope someone can

help.

I have two styles used - Heading 1 and Heading 2. I believe they are

both
resident in the document, and not necessarily the same as those

styles
in
my Normal template. At the moment, Heading 1 styles are formatted in

the
TOC as bold, underlined, and no page number. Heading 2 styles are

not
bold or underlined, and have a dotted tab leader to a right-aligned
page
number. This is good and I want to keep it. The current field code

is
{TOC \O "1-2" \Z}.

When I try to update the entire table, the Heading 1 styles are bold
and
underlined, but have a page number, and the underline extends to the
number. The Heading 2 styles lose the dotted tab leader. Also, the

tab
setting is changed to stop at mid-page. I've tried changing the TOC

style
when I update, but it keeps getting worse!

It's probably time to start from scratch! What settings am I looking

for
when I make this?

Ed







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See if the "leader in toc" thread in the
microsoft.public.word.pagelayout newsgroup applies.

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"Ed" wrote in message ...
I'm not understanding you, Suzanne. I've got 1 inch left and right

margins,
a left aligned tab with a dotted leader set for 6.2 inches, and I

set a
right aligned tab with no leader at 6.48 inches. I then did an

update ..
entire table, but the numbers still don't line up against the right

edge. I
tried using the ruler and moved my tabs back and forth, but I still

can't
get them to dance for me.

Ed

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You probably just need to reinsert the right-aligned tab stop at

the right
margin in the TOC 2 styles. When the TOC field "forgets" what it's

doing
wrt
numbering for some levels, this tab stop (which is generated

dynamically)
also gets lost. If you're using the default 1.25" left and right

margins
(does anyone ever?), the tab stop would be at 6" (though Word puts

it at
5.99"); you'll need to adjust for your actual margins--look at the

ruler
for
guidance (and that's the easiest way to set the stop, too).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Ed" wrote in message
...
Okay - after reading through some stuff on the Word FAQ site,

Shauna
Kelly's
site, and Suzanne Barnhill's site, I've got most of this

resolved. I
edited
my heading styles, reapplied the styles, and edited the field

code to
take
out numbering for Heading 1. (If anyone is just throwing out

questions
here
and not reading these articles, you are missing great wealth!)

I am currently left with only one major nagging issue (others

will crop
up,
I'm sure!): my page numbers don't align on the right side. That

is, I
would like the right edges of my one-digit numbers to match the

right
edges
of my two-digit page numbers. I have "Right Align Numbers"

checked, and
even modified the TOC style as "Justified". Nothing seems to

work,
though.
Any suggestions?

Ed

"Ed" wrote in message
...
I have inherited a document with a TOC field. Every time I

choose to
update the entire field, though, it goes haywire! I hope

someone can
help.

I have two styles used - Heading 1 and Heading 2. I believe

they are
both
resident in the document, and not necessarily the same as those

styles
in
my Normal template. At the moment, Heading 1 styles are

formatted in
the
TOC as bold, underlined, and no page number. Heading 2 styles

are not
bold or underlined, and have a dotted tab leader to a

right-aligned
page
number. This is good and I want to keep it. The current field

code is
{TOC \O "1-2" \Z}.

When I try to update the entire table, the Heading 1 styles are

bold
and
underlined, but have a page number, and the underline extends

to the
number. The Heading 2 styles lose the dotted tab leader. Also,

the tab
setting is changed to stop at mid-page. I've tried changing

the TOC
style
when I update, but it keeps getting worse!

It's probably time to start from scratch! What settings am I

looking
for
when I make this?

Ed











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Hi, Herb. Thanks for jumping in.

Are they right aligned, but simply not at the right edge?

Correct.
Are you modifying tab settings directly, or are you modifying the TOC 2
style definition?

TOC2 style.

*sigh* There may be more than TOC that I don't understand here! Page setup
is 1" left and right margins. For TOC2, I've got a left-aligned tab with
leader at 6.1" and a right-aligned tab at 6.48". I typed a row of "a"s in
an empty paragraph - the text broke to the next line at 6.42". So I changed
my 6.48 tab to 6.4 to be within the useable text margins and updated the
field table - no go.

As far as the TOC is concerned, my employer isn't going to hang me if the
numbers aren't perfectly aligned! But I would really like to understand as
much as possible about what is happening with these tabs! I get the feeling
there's something pretty basic about how all this is supposed to work that
I'm missing. I would assume that a right-aligned tab would pull the right
edge of my text to wherever the tab stop is, just as a left-aligned tab
pushes the text to the tab stop. So why isn't the page number being pulled
to 6.4"?

Ed

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Are they right aligned, but simply not at the right edge?

Are you modifying tab settings directly, or are you modifying the TOC 2
style definition? You need to modify the TOC 2 style definition if you
want the setting to survive updating the TOC field.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"Ed" wrote in message
...
I'm not understanding you, Suzanne. I've got 1 inch left and right
margins, a left aligned tab with a dotted leader set for 6.2 inches, and
I set a right aligned tab with no leader at 6.48 inches. I then did an
update .. entire table, but the numbers still don't line up against the
right edge. I tried using the ruler and moved my tabs back and forth,
but I still can't get them to dance for me.

Ed

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You probably just need to reinsert the right-aligned tab stop at the
right
margin in the TOC 2 styles. When the TOC field "forgets" what it's doing
wrt
numbering for some levels, this tab stop (which is generated
dynamically)
also gets lost. If you're using the default 1.25" left and right margins
(does anyone ever?), the tab stop would be at 6" (though Word puts it at
5.99"); you'll need to adjust for your actual margins--look at the ruler
for
guidance (and that's the easiest way to set the stop, too).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ed" wrote in message
...
Okay - after reading through some stuff on the Word FAQ site, Shauna
Kelly's
site, and Suzanne Barnhill's site, I've got most of this resolved. I
edited
my heading styles, reapplied the styles, and edited the field code to
take
out numbering for Heading 1. (If anyone is just throwing out questions
here
and not reading these articles, you are missing great wealth!)

I am currently left with only one major nagging issue (others will crop
up,
I'm sure!): my page numbers don't align on the right side. That is, I
would like the right edges of my one-digit numbers to match the right
edges
of my two-digit page numbers. I have "Right Align Numbers" checked,
and
even modified the TOC style as "Justified". Nothing seems to work,
though.
Any suggestions?

Ed

"Ed" wrote in message
...
I have inherited a document with a TOC field. Every time I choose to
update the entire field, though, it goes haywire! I hope someone can
help.

I have two styles used - Heading 1 and Heading 2. I believe they are
both
resident in the document, and not necessarily the same as those
styles
in
my Normal template. At the moment, Heading 1 styles are formatted in
the
TOC as bold, underlined, and no page number. Heading 2 styles are
not
bold or underlined, and have a dotted tab leader to a right-aligned
page
number. This is good and I want to keep it. The current field code
is
{TOC \O "1-2" \Z}.

When I try to update the entire table, the Heading 1 styles are bold
and
underlined, but have a page number, and the underline extends to the
number. The Heading 2 styles lose the dotted tab leader. Also, the
tab
setting is changed to stop at mid-page. I've tried changing the TOC
style
when I update, but it keeps getting worse!

It's probably time to start from scratch! What settings am I looking
for
when I make this?

Ed










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Well, I guess what I didn't understand was _tabs_!! I cleared all the other
tabs and set one right-aligned tab with dotted leader at 6.45". Bingo!
Everything lines up beautifully!

Many thanks to Suzanne, Stefan, and Herb for staying with my dimness on
this. You people are the only reason I know anything about this thing
called Word!

Ed

"Ed" wrote in message
...
Hi, Herb. Thanks for jumping in.

Are they right aligned, but simply not at the right edge?

Correct.
Are you modifying tab settings directly, or are you modifying the TOC 2
style definition?

TOC2 style.

*sigh* There may be more than TOC that I don't understand here! Page
setup is 1" left and right margins. For TOC2, I've got a left-aligned tab
with leader at 6.1" and a right-aligned tab at 6.48". I typed a row of
"a"s in an empty paragraph - the text broke to the next line at 6.42". So
I changed my 6.48 tab to 6.4 to be within the useable text margins and
updated the field table - no go.

As far as the TOC is concerned, my employer isn't going to hang me if the
numbers aren't perfectly aligned! But I would really like to understand
as much as possible about what is happening with these tabs! I get the
feeling there's something pretty basic about how all this is supposed to
work that I'm missing. I would assume that a right-aligned tab would pull
the right edge of my text to wherever the tab stop is, just as a
left-aligned tab pushes the text to the tab stop. So why isn't the page
number being pulled to 6.4"?

Ed

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Are they right aligned, but simply not at the right edge?

Are you modifying tab settings directly, or are you modifying the TOC 2
style definition? You need to modify the TOC 2 style definition if you
want the setting to survive updating the TOC field.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"Ed" wrote in message
...
I'm not understanding you, Suzanne. I've got 1 inch left and right
margins, a left aligned tab with a dotted leader set for 6.2 inches, and
I set a right aligned tab with no leader at 6.48 inches. I then did an
update .. entire table, but the numbers still don't line up against the
right edge. I tried using the ruler and moved my tabs back and forth,
but I still can't get them to dance for me.

Ed

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You probably just need to reinsert the right-aligned tab stop at the
right
margin in the TOC 2 styles. When the TOC field "forgets" what it's
doing wrt
numbering for some levels, this tab stop (which is generated
dynamically)
also gets lost. If you're using the default 1.25" left and right
margins
(does anyone ever?), the tab stop would be at 6" (though Word puts it
at
5.99"); you'll need to adjust for your actual margins--look at the
ruler for
guidance (and that's the easiest way to set the stop, too).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ed" wrote in message
...
Okay - after reading through some stuff on the Word FAQ site, Shauna
Kelly's
site, and Suzanne Barnhill's site, I've got most of this resolved. I
edited
my heading styles, reapplied the styles, and edited the field code to
take
out numbering for Heading 1. (If anyone is just throwing out
questions
here
and not reading these articles, you are missing great wealth!)

I am currently left with only one major nagging issue (others will
crop
up,
I'm sure!): my page numbers don't align on the right side. That is,
I
would like the right edges of my one-digit numbers to match the right
edges
of my two-digit page numbers. I have "Right Align Numbers" checked,
and
even modified the TOC style as "Justified". Nothing seems to work,
though.
Any suggestions?

Ed

"Ed" wrote in message
...
I have inherited a document with a TOC field. Every time I choose to
update the entire field, though, it goes haywire! I hope someone can
help.

I have two styles used - Heading 1 and Heading 2. I believe they
are
both
resident in the document, and not necessarily the same as those
styles
in
my Normal template. At the moment, Heading 1 styles are formatted
in
the
TOC as bold, underlined, and no page number. Heading 2 styles are
not
bold or underlined, and have a dotted tab leader to a right-aligned
page
number. This is good and I want to keep it. The current field code
is
{TOC \O "1-2" \Z}.

When I try to update the entire table, the Heading 1 styles are bold
and
underlined, but have a page number, and the underline extends to the
number. The Heading 2 styles lose the dotted tab leader. Also, the
tab
setting is changed to stop at mid-page. I've tried changing the TOC
style
when I update, but it keeps getting worse!

It's probably time to start from scratch! What settings am I
looking
for
when I make this?

Ed














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From your description I assumed you wanted the leader to stop short of the
page numbers (a nice touch), which requires two tab stops but also two tab
characters and an additional switch in the TOC field; we've had another
thread here or elsewhere where someone was working on that, and I guess I
figured this was that one. Sorry for *my* dimness.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ed" wrote in message
...
Well, I guess what I didn't understand was _tabs_!! I cleared all the

other
tabs and set one right-aligned tab with dotted leader at 6.45". Bingo!
Everything lines up beautifully!

Many thanks to Suzanne, Stefan, and Herb for staying with my dimness on
this. You people are the only reason I know anything about this thing
called Word!

Ed

"Ed" wrote in message
...
Hi, Herb. Thanks for jumping in.

Are they right aligned, but simply not at the right edge?

Correct.
Are you modifying tab settings directly, or are you modifying the TOC 2
style definition?

TOC2 style.

*sigh* There may be more than TOC that I don't understand here! Page
setup is 1" left and right margins. For TOC2, I've got a left-aligned

tab
with leader at 6.1" and a right-aligned tab at 6.48". I typed a row of
"a"s in an empty paragraph - the text broke to the next line at 6.42".

So
I changed my 6.48 tab to 6.4 to be within the useable text margins and
updated the field table - no go.

As far as the TOC is concerned, my employer isn't going to hang me if

the
numbers aren't perfectly aligned! But I would really like to understand
as much as possible about what is happening with these tabs! I get the
feeling there's something pretty basic about how all this is supposed to
work that I'm missing. I would assume that a right-aligned tab would

pull
the right edge of my text to wherever the tab stop is, just as a
left-aligned tab pushes the text to the tab stop. So why isn't the page
number being pulled to 6.4"?

Ed

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Are they right aligned, but simply not at the right edge?

Are you modifying tab settings directly, or are you modifying the TOC 2
style definition? You need to modify the TOC 2 style definition if you
want the setting to survive updating the TOC field.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"Ed" wrote in message
...
I'm not understanding you, Suzanne. I've got 1 inch left and right
margins, a left aligned tab with a dotted leader set for 6.2 inches,

and
I set a right aligned tab with no leader at 6.48 inches. I then did

an
update .. entire table, but the numbers still don't line up against

the
right edge. I tried using the ruler and moved my tabs back and forth,
but I still can't get them to dance for me.

Ed

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You probably just need to reinsert the right-aligned tab stop at the
right
margin in the TOC 2 styles. When the TOC field "forgets" what it's
doing wrt
numbering for some levels, this tab stop (which is generated
dynamically)
also gets lost. If you're using the default 1.25" left and right
margins
(does anyone ever?), the tab stop would be at 6" (though Word puts it
at
5.99"); you'll need to adjust for your actual margins--look at the
ruler for
guidance (and that's the easiest way to set the stop, too).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ed" wrote in message
...
Okay - after reading through some stuff on the Word FAQ site, Shauna
Kelly's
site, and Suzanne Barnhill's site, I've got most of this resolved.

I
edited
my heading styles, reapplied the styles, and edited the field code

to
take
out numbering for Heading 1. (If anyone is just throwing out
questions
here
and not reading these articles, you are missing great wealth!)

I am currently left with only one major nagging issue (others will
crop
up,
I'm sure!): my page numbers don't align on the right side. That

is,
I
would like the right edges of my one-digit numbers to match the

right
edges
of my two-digit page numbers. I have "Right Align Numbers" checked,
and
even modified the TOC style as "Justified". Nothing seems to work,
though.
Any suggestions?

Ed

"Ed" wrote in message
...
I have inherited a document with a TOC field. Every time I choose

to
update the entire field, though, it goes haywire! I hope someone

can
help.

I have two styles used - Heading 1 and Heading 2. I believe they
are
both
resident in the document, and not necessarily the same as those
styles
in
my Normal template. At the moment, Heading 1 styles are formatted
in
the
TOC as bold, underlined, and no page number. Heading 2 styles are
not
bold or underlined, and have a dotted tab leader to a

right-aligned
page
number. This is good and I want to keep it. The current field

code
is
{TOC \O "1-2" \Z}.

When I try to update the entire table, the Heading 1 styles are

bold
and
underlined, but have a page number, and the underline extends to

the
number. The Heading 2 styles lose the dotted tab leader. Also,

the
tab
setting is changed to stop at mid-page. I've tried changing the

TOC
style
when I update, but it keeps getting worse!

It's probably time to start from scratch! What settings am I
looking
for
when I make this?

Ed













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