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Bullet / Number are separated from its text on column break
I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a column break into a
bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at the end of the first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to join the bullet (number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a square layout (basically, to manually push away the bullet). I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous bullet and at the beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column - the same problem. The orphan control is on. Any suggestions? |
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Can't confirm this in PC Word right now, but on my Mac this technique works
fine: Assume you have a 10-item list, the sixth of which is: 6. Man bites Dog Place the insertion point at the start of the "M", then create the column break. In my case items 1-5 remain in column 1 & items 6-10 move to column 2 without any disruption or problem. If that won't work for you, try removing the number/bullet formatting, create the column break, then select the list & reapply the formatting. HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 7/14/06 4:39 PM, in article , "Anna Kezer" wrote: I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a column break into a bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at the end of the first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to join the bullet (number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a square layout (basically, to manually push away the bullet). I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous bullet and at the beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column - the same problem. The orphan control is on. Any suggestions? |
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Bullet / Number are separated from its text on column break
When you add a column break in a text paragraph, the text after the
break is moved to the next column (as expected). Also, text added before the column break will never flow across the break; that way, the two "parts" of text are separated. However, the text after the break will not have its own bullet (or numbering) formatting; that way, the "split" paragraph is still a single paragraph. You would have to separate the paragraph from the column break. This will be easier to do if you press the ¶ button so that Word displays nonprinting characters. You will now see, among other things, ¶ symbols which represents paragraph marks. (For more, see http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/NonPrintChars.htm.) Place the cursor at the end of the text in the first column, just before the break. Press Enter. Copy the text that belongs to the former bullet (number) into that paragraph. With nonprinting characters displayed, you would then see the following: - Bulleted item - Another bulleted item¶ More text here.¶ More text follows here. column break - A bulleted item again¶ Note: You will have to look at this message in a monospaced font, such as Courier New, if you want the example above to look correctly. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Anna Kezer" wrote in message ... I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a column break into a bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at the end of the first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to join the bullet (number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a square layout (basically, to manually push away the bullet). I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous bullet and at the beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column - the same problem. The orphan control is on. Any suggestions? |
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Thank you for your answers!
Stefan, here is how my text looks with NonPrint Chars (better in monospaced font as well): 2.- text2 text2 text2 text3 text3 text3 text2 text2 text2 text3 text3.¶ text2 text2.¶ 4.- text4 text4 text4 3.- ---Column Break-- text4 text4.¶ And whatever I do, I still can't make '3.' to join the 'text3' in the second column - besides pushing it up with 'square' wrapping of the picture. To be technically precise, this particular behaviour appears only when there is a picture on the page. If I insert a column break with no picutre object in the page, Word keeps the number in the correct column. But as soon as I add a picture, the problem above occurs. If a colum break is inserted with a picutre already on the page, it would again separate correctly - but only until pictire is moved or an element i added to it. This happens regardless of the wrapping format of the picture. Typically, I use "behind the text" wrapping which should have eliminated any interaction of a picture object with the text. ..... Actually, with NonPrintChars being on, I just found the answer: the problem is in the picture's anchor. When the picture is just inserted or the column break just created, the anchor is assigned to the end of the last paragraph in the second column. However, any change to the page leads to immeadiate reassignment of the anchor to the end of the first column, which pulls the number from the second column back to the end of the first... Any suggestion how can I stop Word from helping me with this automatic reassignment?! Anna "Stefan Blom" wrote: When you add a column break in a text paragraph, the text after the break is moved to the next column (as expected). Also, text added before the column break will never flow across the break; that way, the two "parts" of text are separated. However, the text after the break will not have its own bullet (or numbering) formatting; that way, the "split" paragraph is still a single paragraph. You would have to separate the paragraph from the column break. This will be easier to do if you press the ¶ button so that Word displays nonprinting characters. You will now see, among other things, ¶ symbols which represents paragraph marks. (For more, see http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/NonPrintChars.htm.) Place the cursor at the end of the text in the first column, just before the break. Press Enter. Copy the text that belongs to the former bullet (number) into that paragraph. With nonprinting characters displayed, you would then see the following: - Bulleted item - Another bulleted item¶ More text here.¶ More text follows here. column break - A bulleted item again¶ Note: You will have to look at this message in a monospaced font, such as Courier New, if you want the example above to look correctly. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Anna Kezer" wrote in message ... I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a column break into a bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at the end of the first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to join the bullet (number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a square layout (basically, to manually push away the bullet). I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous bullet and at the beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column - the same problem. The orphan control is on. Any suggestions? |
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This is an odd issue; I don't recall ever hearing about it before.
If you want to stop the anchor from moving, try locking it. First move it by dragging it to the desired paragraph. Then lock the anchor: In Format | Picture, click the Layout tab. Click the Advanced button. Check the "Lock anchor" option and click OK twice. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Anna Kezer" wrote in message ... Thank you for your answers! Stefan, here is how my text looks with NonPrint Chars (better in monospaced font as well): 2.- text2 text2 text2 text3 text3 text3 text2 text2 text2 text3 text3.¶ text2 text2.¶ 4.- text4 text4 text4 3.- ---Column Break-- text4 text4.¶ And whatever I do, I still can't make '3.' to join the 'text3' in the second column - besides pushing it up with 'square' wrapping of the picture. To be technically precise, this particular behaviour appears only when there is a picture on the page. If I insert a column break with no picutre object in the page, Word keeps the number in the correct column. But as soon as I add a picture, the problem above occurs. If a colum break is inserted with a picutre already on the page, it would again separate correctly - but only until pictire is moved or an element i added to it. This happens regardless of the wrapping format of the picture. Typically, I use "behind the text" wrapping which should have eliminated any interaction of a picture object with the text. .... Actually, with NonPrintChars being on, I just found the answer: the problem is in the picture's anchor. When the picture is just inserted or the column break just created, the anchor is assigned to the end of the last paragraph in the second column. However, any change to the page leads to immeadiate reassignment of the anchor to the end of the first column, which pulls the number from the second column back to the end of the first... Any suggestion how can I stop Word from helping me with this automatic reassignment?! Anna "Stefan Blom" wrote: When you add a column break in a text paragraph, the text after the break is moved to the next column (as expected). Also, text added before the column break will never flow across the break; that way, the two "parts" of text are separated. However, the text after the break will not have its own bullet (or numbering) formatting; that way, the "split" paragraph is still a single paragraph. You would have to separate the paragraph from the column break. This will be easier to do if you press the ¶ button so that Word displays nonprinting characters. You will now see, among other things, ¶ symbols which represents paragraph marks. (For more, see http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/NonPrintChars.htm.) Place the cursor at the end of the text in the first column, just before the break. Press Enter. Copy the text that belongs to the former bullet (number) into that paragraph. With nonprinting characters displayed, you would then see the following: - Bulleted item - Another bulleted item¶ More text here.¶ More text follows here. column break - A bulleted item again¶ Note: You will have to look at this message in a monospaced font, such as Courier New, if you want the example above to look correctly. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Anna Kezer" wrote in message ... I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a column break into a bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at the end of the first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to join the bullet (number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a square layout (basically, to manually push away the bullet). I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous bullet and at the beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column - the same problem. The orphan control is on. Any suggestions? |
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Another thing to check is whether the issue can be reproduced in a new
document. If not, the problem document might be corrupt. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/apperrors/CorruptDoc.htm. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... This is an odd issue; I don't recall ever hearing about it before. If you want to stop the anchor from moving, try locking it. First move it by dragging it to the desired paragraph. Then lock the anchor: In Format | Picture, click the Layout tab. Click the Advanced button. Check the "Lock anchor" option and click OK twice. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Anna Kezer" wrote in message ... Thank you for your answers! Stefan, here is how my text looks with NonPrint Chars (better in monospaced font as well): 2.- text2 text2 text2 text3 text3 text3 text2 text2 text2 text3 text3.¶ text2 text2.¶ 4.- text4 text4 text4 3.- ---Column Break-- text4 text4.¶ And whatever I do, I still can't make '3.' to join the 'text3' in the second column - besides pushing it up with 'square' wrapping of the picture. To be technically precise, this particular behaviour appears only when there is a picture on the page. If I insert a column break with no picutre object in the page, Word keeps the number in the correct column. But as soon as I add a picture, the problem above occurs. If a colum break is inserted with a picutre already on the page, it would again separate correctly - but only until pictire is moved or an element i added to it. This happens regardless of the wrapping format of the picture. Typically, I use "behind the text" wrapping which should have eliminated any interaction of a picture object with the text. .... Actually, with NonPrintChars being on, I just found the answer: the problem is in the picture's anchor. When the picture is just inserted or the column break just created, the anchor is assigned to the end of the last paragraph in the second column. However, any change to the page leads to immeadiate reassignment of the anchor to the end of the first column, which pulls the number from the second column back to the end of the first... Any suggestion how can I stop Word from helping me with this automatic reassignment?! Anna "Stefan Blom" wrote: When you add a column break in a text paragraph, the text after the break is moved to the next column (as expected). Also, text added before the column break will never flow across the break; that way, the two "parts" of text are separated. However, the text after the break will not have its own bullet (or numbering) formatting; that way, the "split" paragraph is still a single paragraph. You would have to separate the paragraph from the column break. This will be easier to do if you press the ¶ button so that Word displays nonprinting characters. You will now see, among other things, ¶ symbols which represents paragraph marks. (For more, see http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/NonPrintChars.htm.) Place the cursor at the end of the text in the first column, just before the break. Press Enter. Copy the text that belongs to the former bullet (number) into that paragraph. With nonprinting characters displayed, you would then see the following: - Bulleted item - Another bulleted item¶ More text here.¶ More text follows here. column break - A bulleted item again¶ Note: You will have to look at this message in a monospaced font, such as Courier New, if you want the example above to look correctly. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Anna Kezer" wrote in message ... I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a column break into a bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at the end of the first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to join the bullet (number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a square layout (basically, to manually push away the bullet). I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous bullet and at the beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column - the same problem. The orphan control is on. Any suggestions? |
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Thank you, Stefan!
Locking the anchor did the trick - now I can move the picture object around for better positioning in its space without affecting the bullets. No, this is not a corrupt document - I did come across this issue before. It is just that this time I have 70 pages of two column, often-bulleted text, so it drove me to the point of complete despair.. Thanks again! "Stefan Blom" wrote: Another thing to check is whether the issue can be reproduced in a new document. If not, the problem document might be corrupt. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/apperrors/CorruptDoc.htm. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... This is an odd issue; I don't recall ever hearing about it before. If you want to stop the anchor from moving, try locking it. First move it by dragging it to the desired paragraph. Then lock the anchor: In Format | Picture, click the Layout tab. Click the Advanced button. Check the "Lock anchor" option and click OK twice. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Anna Kezer" wrote in message ... Thank you for your answers! Stefan, here is how my text looks with NonPrint Chars (better in monospaced font as well): 2.- text2 text2 text2 text3 text3 text3 text2 text2 text2 text3 text3.¶ text2 text2.¶ 4.- text4 text4 text4 3.- ---Column Break-- text4 text4.¶ And whatever I do, I still can't make '3.' to join the 'text3' in the second column - besides pushing it up with 'square' wrapping of the picture. To be technically precise, this particular behaviour appears only when there is a picture on the page. If I insert a column break with no picutre object in the page, Word keeps the number in the correct column. But as soon as I add a picture, the problem above occurs. If a colum break is inserted with a picutre already on the page, it would again separate correctly - but only until pictire is moved or an element i added to it. This happens regardless of the wrapping format of the picture. Typically, I use "behind the text" wrapping which should have eliminated any interaction of a picture object with the text. .... Actually, with NonPrintChars being on, I just found the answer: the problem is in the picture's anchor. When the picture is just inserted or the column break just created, the anchor is assigned to the end of the last paragraph in the second column. However, any change to the page leads to immeadiate reassignment of the anchor to the end of the first column, which pulls the number from the second column back to the end of the first... Any suggestion how can I stop Word from helping me with this automatic reassignment?! Anna "Stefan Blom" wrote: When you add a column break in a text paragraph, the text after the break is moved to the next column (as expected). Also, text added before the column break will never flow across the break; that way, the two "parts" of text are separated. However, the text after the break will not have its own bullet (or numbering) formatting; that way, the "split" paragraph is still a single paragraph. You would have to separate the paragraph from the column break. This will be easier to do if you press the ¶ button so that Word displays nonprinting characters. You will now see, among other things, ¶ symbols which represents paragraph marks. (For more, see http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/NonPrintChars.htm.) Place the cursor at the end of the text in the first column, just before the break. Press Enter. Copy the text that belongs to the former bullet (number) into that paragraph. With nonprinting characters displayed, you would then see the following: - Bulleted item - Another bulleted item¶ More text here.¶ More text follows here. column break - A bulleted item again¶ Note: You will have to look at this message in a monospaced font, such as Courier New, if you want the example above to look correctly. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Anna Kezer" wrote in message ... I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a column break into a bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at the end of the first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to join the bullet (number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a square layout (basically, to manually push away the bullet). I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous bullet and at the beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column - the same problem. The orphan control is on. Any suggestions? |
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You are welcome, and thank you for the feedback.
-- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Anna Kezer" wrote in message ... Thank you, Stefan! Locking the anchor did the trick - now I can move the picture object around for better positioning in its space without affecting the bullets. No, this is not a corrupt document - I did come across this issue before. It is just that this time I have 70 pages of two column, often-bulleted text, so it drove me to the point of complete despair.. Thanks again! "Stefan Blom" wrote: Another thing to check is whether the issue can be reproduced in a new document. If not, the problem document might be corrupt. See http://word.mvps.org/faqs/apperrors/CorruptDoc.htm. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... This is an odd issue; I don't recall ever hearing about it before. If you want to stop the anchor from moving, try locking it. First move it by dragging it to the desired paragraph. Then lock the anchor: In Format | Picture, click the Layout tab. Click the Advanced button. Check the "Lock anchor" option and click OK twice. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Anna Kezer" wrote in message ... Thank you for your answers! Stefan, here is how my text looks with NonPrint Chars (better in monospaced font as well): 2.- text2 text2 text2 text3 text3 text3 text2 text2 text2 text3 text3.¶ text2 text2.¶ 4.- text4 text4 text4 3.- ---Column Break-- text4 text4.¶ And whatever I do, I still can't make '3.' to join the 'text3' in the second column - besides pushing it up with 'square' wrapping of the picture. To be technically precise, this particular behaviour appears only when there is a picture on the page. If I insert a column break with no picutre object in the page, Word keeps the number in the correct column. But as soon as I add a picture, the problem above occurs. If a colum break is inserted with a picutre already on the page, it would again separate correctly - but only until pictire is moved or an element i added to it. This happens regardless of the wrapping format of the picture. Typically, I use "behind the text" wrapping which should have eliminated any interaction of a picture object with the text. .... Actually, with NonPrintChars being on, I just found the answer: the problem is in the picture's anchor. When the picture is just inserted or the column break just created, the anchor is assigned to the end of the last paragraph in the second column. However, any change to the page leads to immeadiate reassignment of the anchor to the end of the first column, which pulls the number from the second column back to the end of the first... Any suggestion how can I stop Word from helping me with this automatic reassignment?! Anna "Stefan Blom" wrote: When you add a column break in a text paragraph, the text after the break is moved to the next column (as expected). Also, text added before the column break will never flow across the break; that way, the two "parts" of text are separated. However, the text after the break will not have its own bullet (or numbering) formatting; that way, the "split" paragraph is still a single paragraph. You would have to separate the paragraph from the column break. This will be easier to do if you press the ¶ button so that Word displays nonprinting characters. You will now see, among other things, ¶ symbols which represents paragraph marks. (For more, see http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/NonPrintChars.htm.) Place the cursor at the end of the text in the first column, just before the break. Press Enter. Copy the text that belongs to the former bullet (number) into that paragraph. With nonprinting characters displayed, you would then see the following: - Bulleted item - Another bulleted item¶ More text here.¶ More text follows here. column break - A bulleted item again¶ Note: You will have to look at this message in a monospaced font, such as Courier New, if you want the example above to look correctly. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Anna Kezer" wrote in message ... I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a column break into a bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at the end of the first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to join the bullet (number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a square layout (basically, to manually push away the bullet). I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous bullet and at the beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column - the same problem. The orphan control is on. Any suggestions? |
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