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margaret bartley
 
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This is Word 2000, Windows XP:

I have a five-column table that I want to display as two, side-by-side,
2-column tables, with the column in the middle having no lines.

_______________ _________________
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|


But when I go into the Shading and Borders wizards, and clear the middle
borders, they still show up on the top and bottom row. There is a solid
line across the top and bottom.

I tried clearing all the outside border, and that got rid of some, but not
all of the borders, and the bottom border across the bottom middle cloumn is
still there.

I've cleared both at the cell and table level, neither seems to clear that
middle column's outside border.

Thank you,
Margaret


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Dian Chapman, MVP, MOS
 
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Well, although you can mess with adding a fat WHITE col between to
fake it out...you can also just add two tables sideXside.

To do this...create two table one under the other. Grab the Table
resize handle (the tiny square that appears in the lower/right corner
when you mouseover the table) on the top table and drag it in to make
the table smaller than the margin. Do the same with the second table.

Then grab the selection/move handle for the second table (the tiny
square with a cross in it that appears in the upper/left when you
mouseover) and drag that table up next to the first one.

BTW...you might want to check out my free course samples for my VBA
and Word Advanced courses because the first free lesson for each have
tricks regarding formatting tables.

See this link: http://www.mousetrax.com/TechCourses.html#samples

Hope this helps....

Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
Editor/TechTrax Ezine

Free MS Tutorials: http://www.mousetrax.com/techtrax
Free Word eBook: http://www.mousetrax.com/books.html
Optimize your business docs: http://www.mousetrax.com/consulting
Learn VBA the easy way: http://www.mousetrax.com/techcourses.html


On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:24:58 -0800, "margaret bartley"
wrote:

This is Word 2000, Windows XP:

I have a five-column table that I want to display as two, side-by-side,
2-column tables, with the column in the middle having no lines.

_______________ _________________
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|


But when I go into the Shading and Borders wizards, and clear the middle
borders, they still show up on the top and bottom row. There is a solid
line across the top and bottom.

I tried clearing all the outside border, and that got rid of some, but not
all of the borders, and the bottom border across the bottom middle cloumn is
still there.

I've cleared both at the cell and table level, neither seems to clear that
middle column's outside border.

Thank you,
Margaret



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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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Please see my reply to your duplicate question in this NG.

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Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"margaret bartley" wrote in message
...
This is Word 2000, Windows XP:

I have a five-column table that I want to display as two, side-by-side,
2-column tables, with the column in the middle having no lines.

_______________ _________________
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|


But when I go into the Shading and Borders wizards, and clear the middle
borders, they still show up on the top and bottom row. There is a solid
line across the top and bottom.

I tried clearing all the outside border, and that got rid of some, but not
all of the borders, and the bottom border across the bottom middle cloumn

is
still there.

I've cleared both at the cell and table level, neither seems to clear that
middle column's outside border.

Thank you,
Margaret



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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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You can also create side-by-side tables in newspaper-style columns, which
avoids the necessity for making one or both of the tables wrapped.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Dian Chapman, MVP, MOS" wrote in message
...
Well, although you can mess with adding a fat WHITE col between to
fake it out...you can also just add two tables sideXside.

To do this...create two table one under the other. Grab the Table
resize handle (the tiny square that appears in the lower/right corner
when you mouseover the table) on the top table and drag it in to make
the table smaller than the margin. Do the same with the second table.

Then grab the selection/move handle for the second table (the tiny
square with a cross in it that appears in the upper/left when you
mouseover) and drag that table up next to the first one.

BTW...you might want to check out my free course samples for my VBA
and Word Advanced courses because the first free lesson for each have
tricks regarding formatting tables.

See this link: http://www.mousetrax.com/TechCourses.html#samples

Hope this helps....

Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
Editor/TechTrax Ezine

Free MS Tutorials: http://www.mousetrax.com/techtrax
Free Word eBook: http://www.mousetrax.com/books.html
Optimize your business docs: http://www.mousetrax.com/consulting
Learn VBA the easy way: http://www.mousetrax.com/techcourses.html


On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:24:58 -0800, "margaret bartley"
wrote:

This is Word 2000, Windows XP:

I have a five-column table that I want to display as two, side-by-side,
2-column tables, with the column in the middle having no lines.

_______________ _________________
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|


But when I go into the Shading and Borders wizards, and clear the middle
borders, they still show up on the top and bottom row. There is a solid
line across the top and bottom.

I tried clearing all the outside border, and that got rid of some, but

not
all of the borders, and the bottom border across the bottom middle cloumn

is
still there.

I've cleared both at the cell and table level, neither seems to clear

that
middle column's outside border.

Thank you,
Margaret




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Dian D. Chapman, MVP
 
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Huh! Hadn't thought of that one...thanks for the info. Although I
don't know what you mean about "making one or both of the tables
wrapped"????

Dian ~

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:46:10 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

You can also create side-by-side tables in newspaper-style columns, which
avoids the necessity for making one or both of the tables wrapped.




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margaret bartley
 
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Boy, I feel stupid!

I'm sure I've tried making two tables side-by-side, in the past.
Was this available with Word 97?

BTW, your courses look awsome!

"Dian Chapman, MVP, MOS" wrote in message
...
Well, although you can mess with adding a fat WHITE col between to
fake it out...you can also just add two tables sideXside.

To do this...create two table one under the other. Grab the Table
resize handle (the tiny square that appears in the lower/right corner
when you mouseover the table) on the top table and drag it in to make
the table smaller than the margin. Do the same with the second table.

Then grab the selection/move handle for the second table (the tiny
square with a cross in it that appears in the upper/left when you
mouseover) and drag that table up next to the first one.

BTW...you might want to check out my free course samples for my VBA
and Word Advanced courses because the first free lesson for each have
tricks regarding formatting tables.

See this link: http://www.mousetrax.com/TechCourses.html#samples

Hope this helps....

Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
Editor/TechTrax Ezine

Free MS Tutorials: http://www.mousetrax.com/techtrax
Free Word eBook: http://www.mousetrax.com/books.html
Optimize your business docs: http://www.mousetrax.com/consulting
Learn VBA the easy way: http://www.mousetrax.com/techcourses.html


On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:24:58 -0800, "margaret bartley"
wrote:

This is Word 2000, Windows XP:

I have a five-column table that I want to display as two, side-by-side,
2-column tables, with the column in the middle having no lines.

_______________ _________________
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|


But when I go into the Shading and Borders wizards, and clear the middle
borders, they still show up on the top and bottom row. There is a solid
line across the top and bottom.

I tried clearing all the outside border, and that got rid of some, but

not
all of the borders, and the bottom border across the bottom middle cloumn

is
still there.

I've cleared both at the cell and table level, neither seems to clear

that
middle column's outside border.

Thank you,
Margaret





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Dian D. Chapman, MVP
 
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DON'T feel stupid. It's not that obvious and, although I can't
remember back to 97 (and too lazy to boot up that system right now to
checkg) I can't remember whether it actually DID work back then? But
the good news is that it's pretty easy to do now if you know how.

And thanks for the course comments. I HAVE tried to pile them up with
tons of useful info that I've learned over the 10 years I've been
providing MVP support...so I'm pretty proud of them.wink

Cheers!

Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
Editor/TechTrax Ezine

Free MS Tutorials: http://www.mousetrax.com/techtrax
Free Word eBook: http://www.mousetrax.com/books.html
Optimize your business docs: http://www.mousetrax.com/consulting
Learn VBA the easy way: http://www.mousetrax.com/techcourses.html




On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:09:20 -0800, "margaret bartley"
wrote:

Boy, I feel stupid!

I'm sure I've tried making two tables side-by-side, in the past.
Was this available with Word 97?

BTW, your courses look awsome!

"Dian Chapman, MVP, MOS" wrote in message
...
Well, although you can mess with adding a fat WHITE col between to
fake it out...you can also just add two tables sideXside.

To do this...create two table one under the other. Grab the Table
resize handle (the tiny square that appears in the lower/right corner
when you mouseover the table) on the top table and drag it in to make
the table smaller than the margin. Do the same with the second table.

Then grab the selection/move handle for the second table (the tiny
square with a cross in it that appears in the upper/left when you
mouseover) and drag that table up next to the first one.

BTW...you might want to check out my free course samples for my VBA
and Word Advanced courses because the first free lesson for each have
tricks regarding formatting tables.

See this link: http://www.mousetrax.com/TechCourses.html#samples

Hope this helps....

Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
Editor/TechTrax Ezine

Free MS Tutorials: http://www.mousetrax.com/techtrax
Free Word eBook: http://www.mousetrax.com/books.html
Optimize your business docs: http://www.mousetrax.com/consulting
Learn VBA the easy way: http://www.mousetrax.com/techcourses.html


On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:24:58 -0800, "margaret bartley"
wrote:

This is Word 2000, Windows XP:

I have a five-column table that I want to display as two, side-by-side,
2-column tables, with the column in the middle having no lines.

_______________ _________________
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|


But when I go into the Shading and Borders wizards, and clear the middle
borders, they still show up on the top and bottom row. There is a solid
line across the top and bottom.

I tried clearing all the outside border, and that got rid of some, but

not
all of the borders, and the bottom border across the bottom middle cloumn

is
still there.

I've cleared both at the cell and table level, neither seems to clear

that
middle column's outside border.

Thank you,
Margaret





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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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Word 97 does not permit wrapping tables unless they're in a frame. If you
wrap a table in Word 2000 or above and open the document in an earlier
version, it will be wrapped.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Dian D. Chapman, MVP" wrote in message
...
DON'T feel stupid. It's not that obvious and, although I can't
remember back to 97 (and too lazy to boot up that system right now to
checkg) I can't remember whether it actually DID work back then? But
the good news is that it's pretty easy to do now if you know how.

And thanks for the course comments. I HAVE tried to pile them up with
tons of useful info that I've learned over the 10 years I've been
providing MVP support...so I'm pretty proud of them.wink

Cheers!

Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
Editor/TechTrax Ezine

Free MS Tutorials: http://www.mousetrax.com/techtrax
Free Word eBook: http://www.mousetrax.com/books.html
Optimize your business docs: http://www.mousetrax.com/consulting
Learn VBA the easy way: http://www.mousetrax.com/techcourses.html




On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:09:20 -0800, "margaret bartley"
wrote:

Boy, I feel stupid!

I'm sure I've tried making two tables side-by-side, in the past.
Was this available with Word 97?

BTW, your courses look awsome!

"Dian Chapman, MVP, MOS" wrote in message
...
Well, although you can mess with adding a fat WHITE col between to
fake it out...you can also just add two tables sideXside.

To do this...create two table one under the other. Grab the Table
resize handle (the tiny square that appears in the lower/right corner
when you mouseover the table) on the top table and drag it in to make
the table smaller than the margin. Do the same with the second table.

Then grab the selection/move handle for the second table (the tiny
square with a cross in it that appears in the upper/left when you
mouseover) and drag that table up next to the first one.

BTW...you might want to check out my free course samples for my VBA
and Word Advanced courses because the first free lesson for each have
tricks regarding formatting tables.

See this link: http://www.mousetrax.com/TechCourses.html#samples

Hope this helps....

Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
Editor/TechTrax Ezine

Free MS Tutorials: http://www.mousetrax.com/techtrax
Free Word eBook: http://www.mousetrax.com/books.html
Optimize your business docs: http://www.mousetrax.com/consulting
Learn VBA the easy way: http://www.mousetrax.com/techcourses.html


On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:24:58 -0800, "margaret bartley"
wrote:

This is Word 2000, Windows XP:

I have a five-column table that I want to display as two,

side-by-side,
2-column tables, with the column in the middle having no lines.

_______________ _________________
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|
|______|________| |_________|_______|


But when I go into the Shading and Borders wizards, and clear the

middle
borders, they still show up on the top and bottom row. There is a

solid
line across the top and bottom.

I tried clearing all the outside border, and that got rid of some, but

not
all of the borders, and the bottom border across the bottom middle

cloumn
is
still there.

I've cleared both at the cell and table level, neither seems to clear

that
middle column's outside border.

Thank you,
Margaret






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Dian D. Chapman, MVP
 
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Ah...thanks. I'll have to fire up the 97 system this weekend and check
that out. Good to know. (My brain doesn't work that far back.g)

Dian ~

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:31:36 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

Word 97 does not permit wrapping tables unless they're in a frame. If you
wrap a table in Word 2000 or above and open the document in an earlier
version, it will be wrapped.


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Sorry, my brain disconnected while I was typing that. It should have been,
"If you wrap a table in Word 2000 or above and open the document in an
earlier version, it will be *framed*."


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Dian D. Chapman, MVP" wrote in message
...
Ah...thanks. I'll have to fire up the 97 system this weekend and check
that out. Good to know. (My brain doesn't work that far back.g)

Dian ~

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:31:36 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

Word 97 does not permit wrapping tables unless they're in a frame. If you
wrap a table in Word 2000 or above and open the document in an earlier
version, it will be wrapped.



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