[James P. H. Fuller[_2_]]

In outline view, my text wraps WAY inside the document right-hand margin
that I set using File/Page Setup--it's as if somehow going to outline view
changes the right-hand margin to an inch and a half inside the right "edge of
the paper" instead of where I need it to be.

Worse, it prints like that. Lines wrap much too soon on paper also. (The
document I'm working on is meant to be structured as an outline in its final
form and printed that way, and the right margin needs to be correct in
outline format.)

If I set "wrap to window" as suggested in other messages, that changes the
way the document appears on screen but has no effect on printing--lines still
wrap too soon in the printed version.

Is there anything I can do to set the right-hand text wrap point correctly
in outline view? Setting it correctly in the graphical editor would be great,
but getting it right on paper is a necessity.

Info: this is Word 2003. I'm using styles to format the various heading
levels, and they're all working fine. I can't find anything about right-hand
margins anywhere in Modify Style.

Thanks very much!

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

(The
document I'm working on is meant to be structured as an outline in its
final
form and printed that way, and the right margin needs to be correct in
outline format.)

That's your chief problem. Outline view is a way of looking at a document
and managing its organization, not (primarily) a way of formatting a
document. Consequently, it is not meant to be WYSIWYG. If you want a
document to look like an outline, then you need to apply an outline
numbering scheme with numbering levels linked to paragraph styles you have
defined appropriately (see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...umbering.html). What you
see in Print Layout view will then look like an outline and will print as
you see it.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"James P. H. Fuller" wrote in
message ...

In outline view, my text wraps WAY inside the document right-hand margin
that I set using File/Page Setup--it's as if somehow going to outline view
changes the right-hand margin to an inch and a half inside the right "edge
of
the paper" instead of where I need it to be.

Worse, it prints like that. Lines wrap much too soon on paper also. (The
document I'm working on is meant to be structured as an outline in its
final
form and printed that way, and the right margin needs to be correct in
outline format.)

If I set "wrap to window" as suggested in other messages, that changes the
way the document appears on screen but has no effect on printing--lines
still
wrap too soon in the printed version.

Is there anything I can do to set the right-hand text wrap point correctly
in outline view? Setting it correctly in the graphical editor would be
great,
but getting it right on paper is a necessity.

Info: this is Word 2003. I'm using styles to format the various heading
levels, and they're all working fine. I can't find anything about
right-hand
margins anywhere in Modify Style.

Thanks very much!

[James P. H. Fuller[_2_]]

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:

If you want a document to look like an outline, then you need to apply
an outline numbering scheme with numbering levels linked to paragraph
styles you have defined appropriately (see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...umbering.html).
What you see in Print Layout view will then look like an outline and
will print as you see it.

OK, thank you. I clearly need to study the whole topic some more.

I've already seen (and printed, and hi-lited, and scribbled all over) the
shaunakelly.com page; it's actually where I got the instructions I used for
applying styles to my headings. Like a chom, they voik--major hat tip to Ms.
Kelly.

But before seeing that page I started with "Create an outline from scratch"
(http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/wo...879981033.aspx) which begins:

1. In a new document, switch to outline view.
2. Type each heading and press ENTER.

That did sort of give me the mindset that you create an outline in outline
view. Then, reading the shaunakelly.com page, I missed the point that we were
now still talking about outlines but not still talking about outline view.

N.b. the microsoft.com page I linked up above ends with...

5. When you're satisfied with the organization, switch to normal view,
print layout view, or Web layout view to add detailed body text and graphics.

....which appears to leave one or two things (or possibly 37 things) unsaid,
because when I work that way the only text entities that display all tabbed
over in outline style are the headings. The body text blocks I type in are
not attached to or lined up with the headings I typed them under, they're all
justified over to the left margin just like an ordinary letter or what have
you. (that's in normal view. Return to outline view and blocks of body text
align with their headings just fine, but now we're back to the right hand
margin problem :-) Is any of that related to what your reply addresses?

Could you possibly point me to a site (or book, or anywhere I can RTFM)
about creating the kind of document I need: outline style, but containing
lots of body text blocks, each aligned with the heading level it appears
under, and (per your post) not depending on outline view?

Thanks very much for your help!

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

If you're using numbered heading styles with progressively larger indents,
then you'll need to create styles for your body paragraphs, one for each
level, with the required left indent. You may find it convenient to start
with the built-in List Continue styles, which have indents in 0.25"
increments.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"James P. H. Fuller" wrote in
message ...
Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:

If you want a document to look like an outline, then you need to apply
an outline numbering scheme with numbering levels linked to paragraph
styles you have defined appropriately (see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...umbering.html).
What you see in Print Layout view will then look like an outline and
will print as you see it.

OK, thank you. I clearly need to study the whole topic some more.

I've already seen (and printed, and hi-lited, and scribbled all over) the
shaunakelly.com page; it's actually where I got the instructions I used
for
applying styles to my headings. Like a chom, they voik--major hat tip to
Ms.
Kelly.

But before seeing that page I started with "Create an outline from
scratch"
(http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/wo...879981033.aspx) which begins:

1. In a new document, switch to outline view.
2. Type each heading and press ENTER.

That did sort of give me the mindset that you create an outline in outline
view. Then, reading the shaunakelly.com page, I missed the point that we
were
now still talking about outlines but not still talking about outline view.

N.b. the microsoft.com page I linked up above ends with...

5. When you're satisfied with the organization, switch to normal view,
print layout view, or Web layout view to add detailed body text and
graphics.

...which appears to leave one or two things (or possibly 37 things)
unsaid,
because when I work that way the only text entities that display all
tabbed
over in outline style are the headings. The body text blocks I type in are
not attached to or lined up with the headings I typed them under, they're
all
justified over to the left margin just like an ordinary letter or what
have
you. (that's in normal view. Return to outline view and blocks of body
text
align with their headings just fine, but now we're back to the right hand
margin problem :-) Is any of that related to what your reply addresses?

Could you possibly point me to a site (or book, or anywhere I can RTFM)
about creating the kind of document I need: outline style, but containing
lots of body text blocks, each aligned with the heading level it appears
under, and (per your post) not depending on outline view?

Thanks very much for your help!