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Hi there. I am always amazed at the ways of making accents in text. I type in several languages and over the years I got used to using for instance alt+130 (on the numeric keyboard) to render an é, or alt+164 to render a ñ. Now if I invoke the function in Microsoft Word to insert a symbol, it has other numbers to do the same thing, like alt+0233 for the é and alt+0241 for the ñ. (Notice the added 0). Both systems work. And I a believe in Word 2007, there are even additional methods to do this. Why isn't there a standard way? Will the old method (the one I am used to) be phased out?
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There are indeed numerous ways, including built-in keyboard shortcuts just
for Word; see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/InsertSpecChars.htm. Different strokes for different folks. I believe the Alt+00x and Alt+000x shortcuts work only for ASCII character numbers; for Unicode numbers, you have to use Alt+X or another shortcut. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Bernie Marquardt" wrote in message ... Hi there. I am always amazed at the ways of making accents in text. I type in several languages and over the years I got used to using for instance alt+130 (on the numeric keyboard) to render an é, or alt+164 to render a ñ. Now if I invoke the function in Microsoft Word to insert a symbol, it has other numbers to do the same thing, like alt+0233 for the é and alt+0241 for the ñ. (Notice the added 0). Both systems work. And I a believe in Word 2007, there are even additional methods to do this. Why isn't there a standard way? Will the old method (the one I am used to) be phased out? -- Bernie Marquardt |
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There are indeed numerous ways, including built-in keyboard shortcuts just for Word; see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/InsertSpecChars.htm. Different strokes for different folks. I believe the Alt+00x and Alt+000x shortcuts work only for ASCII character numbers; for Unicode numbers, you have to use Alt+X or another shortcut. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Bernie Marquardt" wrote in message ... Hi there. I am always amazed at the ways of making accents in text. I type in several languages and over the years I got used to using for instance alt+130 (on the numeric keyboard) to render an é, or alt+164 to render a ñ. Now if I invoke the function in Microsoft Word to insert a symbol, it has other numbers to do the same thing, like alt+0233 for the é and alt+0241 for the ñ. (Notice the added 0). Both systems work. And I a believe in Word 2007, there are even additional methods to do this. Why isn't there a standard way? Will the old method (the one I am used to) be phased out? -- Bernie Marquardt |
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Hi Bernie,
You're stepping into a quagmire here. :-) Computers use "code pages" to translate between numbers (which is really all they use internally) and the characters -- technically, the "glyphs" or pictures of characters -- that appear on the screen. The numbers you're used to are defined by code page 437, the IBM PC or MS-DOS code page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_437). While this is older than Windows and isn't used much by current software, I doubt that any manufacturer intends to completely remove support for it. The numbers with the 0 prefix are from the Windows 1252 code page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows-1252), which is pretty much standard for Western languages. This code page has a different order for the letters outside the basic alphabet, and the drawing characters are replaced with more accented letters. There are indeed other ways (http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/I...pecChars.htm): In recent versions of Word you can type the Unicode number directly into the text and then press Alt+X; some symbols have default shortcuts; and there's a Symbols dialog to let you click a picture of the one you want. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. Bernie Marquardt wrote: Hi there. I am always amazed at the ways of making accents in text. I type in several languages and over the years I got used to using for instance alt+130 (on the numeric keyboard) to render an é, or alt+164 to render a ñ. Now if I invoke the function in Microsoft Word to insert a symbol, it has other numbers to do the same thing, like alt+0233 for the é and alt+0241 for the ñ. (Notice the added 0). Both systems work. And I a believe in Word 2007, there are even additional methods to do this. Why isn't there a standard way? Will the old method (the one I am used to) be phased out? |
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Hi Bernie,
You're stepping into a quagmire here. :-) Computers use "code pages" to translate between numbers (which is really all they use internally) and the characters -- technically, the "glyphs" or pictures of characters -- that appear on the screen. The numbers you're used to are defined by code page 437, the IBM PC or MS-DOS code page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_437). While this is older than Windows and isn't used much by current software, I doubt that any manufacturer intends to completely remove support for it. The numbers with the 0 prefix are from the Windows 1252 code page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows-1252), which is pretty much standard for Western languages. This code page has a different order for the letters outside the basic alphabet, and the drawing characters are replaced with more accented letters. There are indeed other ways (http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/I...pecChars.htm): In recent versions of Word you can type the Unicode number directly into the text and then press Alt+X; some symbols have default shortcuts; and there's a Symbols dialog to let you click a picture of the one you want. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. Bernie Marquardt wrote: Hi there. I am always amazed at the ways of making accents in text. I type in several languages and over the years I got used to using for instance alt+130 (on the numeric keyboard) to render an é, or alt+164 to render a ñ. Now if I invoke the function in Microsoft Word to insert a symbol, it has other numbers to do the same thing, like alt+0233 for the é and alt+0241 for the ñ. (Notice the added 0). Both systems work. And I a believe in Word 2007, there are even additional methods to do this. Why isn't there a standard way? Will the old method (the one I am used to) be phased out? |
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Thank you, Jay and Suzanne, for your input. You both gave me a lot of information to work with. That was quite instructive. I'll be sure and come back to this forum about Word. For years I have used Word from MS Office XP standard, but I am trying to get used to Word 2007, which is quite complex in comparison.
Bernie |
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