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Frustrated Frame User
 
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Default My custom styles are acquiring unwanted attributes

I have a custom table body style based on no style.

I have applied specific attributes tot he style and it has worked well for
me until today.

When the style is applied, the paragraph displays with bullets and tabs. The
TableBody style has no such attributes and i have to manually select
occurences and use the formatting bar to remove the unwanted attributes.

How and where are these attributes becoming linked ot the style. I have
checked the style settings and there is no indication that the unwanted
attributes have been applied to the style.

How can I fix this problem?

I dont want to trash the template because it is a custom template with many
styles and macros.

Is there a way to "get under the hood" and clean out the template?

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Margaret Aldis
 
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Check your TableBody style is not set to "Automatically Update" - if it is
then when you bullet a TableBody paragraph that setting will get applied to
the style as well.

If that's not it then have a look in Format Bullets and Numbering and
reset any pane that shows a bullet format with the TableBody stylename - if
that bullet formatting gets applied it will create the link to the style,
even if the style was not previously bulleted.

Either way, you will also need to modify the TableBody style itself to
remove the bullet formatting it seems to have picked up.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org




"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame
wrote in message ...
I have a custom table body style based on no style.

I have applied specific attributes tot he style and it has worked well for
me until today.

When the style is applied, the paragraph displays with bullets and tabs.
The
TableBody style has no such attributes and i have to manually select
occurences and use the formatting bar to remove the unwanted attributes.

How and where are these attributes becoming linked ot the style. I have
checked the style settings and there is no indication that the unwanted
attributes have been applied to the style.

How can I fix this problem?

I dont want to trash the template because it is a custom template with
many
styles and macros.

Is there a way to "get under the hood" and clean out the template?



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The TableBody Style does has not itself picked up any bulleting in the style
setting whatsoever making this problem all the more mysterious. Each time I
apply the style to a paragraph, the bullets are applied. When i select an
"infected" paragraph, open the Format Bullets and Numbering / Paragraph
dialog boxes, the rogue settings are in place but when i select to modify the
style itself, there are no such settings in place.

I don't usually use the formatting toolbar at all except in this instance i
already did use it to reset the bullets with my custom style name as you have
also suggested.

I prefer to use custom styels for all formatting including bullets and bold
as well. Every custom style has been created from scratch and based on the
no style option. Even though this makes global updating a very inelegant
chore, which i avoid having to do.

Automatic updates is not selected for any style. Numbered styles are custom
ones included in macro sequences that insert fileds for restarting counters
and continuing.
I try as far as I am able to maintain a "safe" template unhindered by common
problems that Word is prone to create.

Thanks for your suggestions but is there something else i can do?


"Margaret Aldis" wrote:

Check your TableBody style is not set to "Automatically Update" - if it is
then when you bullet a TableBody paragraph that setting will get applied to
the style as well.

If that's not it then have a look in Format Bullets and Numbering and
reset any pane that shows a bullet format with the TableBody stylename - if
that bullet formatting gets applied it will create the link to the style,
even if the style was not previously bulleted.

Either way, you will also need to modify the TableBody style itself to
remove the bullet formatting it seems to have picked up.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org




"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame
wrote in message ...
I have a custom table body style based on no style.

I have applied specific attributes tot he style and it has worked well for
me until today.

When the style is applied, the paragraph displays with bullets and tabs.
The
TableBody style has no such attributes and i have to manually select
occurences and use the formatting bar to remove the unwanted attributes.

How and where are these attributes becoming linked ot the style. I have
checked the style settings and there is no indication that the unwanted
attributes have been applied to the style.

How can I fix this problem?

I dont want to trash the template because it is a custom template with
many
styles and macros.

Is there a way to "get under the hood" and clean out the template?




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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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If the style doesn't include bullets, then pressing Ctrl+Q in any "infected"
paragraph should remove them.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame
wrote in message ...
The TableBody Style does has not itself picked up any bulleting in the

style
setting whatsoever making this problem all the more mysterious. Each time

I
apply the style to a paragraph, the bullets are applied. When i select an
"infected" paragraph, open the Format Bullets and Numbering / Paragraph
dialog boxes, the rogue settings are in place but when i select to modify

the
style itself, there are no such settings in place.

I don't usually use the formatting toolbar at all except in this instance

i
already did use it to reset the bullets with my custom style name as you

have
also suggested.

I prefer to use custom styels for all formatting including bullets and

bold
as well. Every custom style has been created from scratch and based on the
no style option. Even though this makes global updating a very inelegant
chore, which i avoid having to do.

Automatic updates is not selected for any style. Numbered styles are

custom
ones included in macro sequences that insert fileds for restarting

counters
and continuing.
I try as far as I am able to maintain a "safe" template unhindered by

common
problems that Word is prone to create.

Thanks for your suggestions but is there something else i can do?


"Margaret Aldis" wrote:

Check your TableBody style is not set to "Automatically Update" - if it

is
then when you bullet a TableBody paragraph that setting will get applied

to
the style as well.

If that's not it then have a look in Format Bullets and Numbering and
reset any pane that shows a bullet format with the TableBody stylename -

if
that bullet formatting gets applied it will create the link to the

style,
even if the style was not previously bulleted.

Either way, you will also need to modify the TableBody style itself to
remove the bullet formatting it seems to have picked up.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
Syntagma partnership site:
http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org




"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame


wrote in message

...
I have a custom table body style based on no style.

I have applied specific attributes tot he style and it has worked well

for
me until today.

When the style is applied, the paragraph displays with bullets and

tabs.
The
TableBody style has no such attributes and i have to manually select
occurences and use the formatting bar to remove the unwanted

attributes.

How and where are these attributes becoming linked ot the style. I

have
checked the style settings and there is no indication that the

unwanted
attributes have been applied to the style.

How can I fix this problem?

I dont want to trash the template because it is a custom template with
many
styles and macros.

Is there a way to "get under the hood" and clean out the template?





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Frustrated Frame User
 
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That doesn't work for me but then I selected a random paragraph in the table
with the TableBody style applied and clicked on Format Reveal Formatting. I
expanded "Table" under which is listed, "Table Style: List Bullet"
What does this mean, is the table itself rather than the paragraph style
somehow affected?
I can't figure out where to change this and i cant exactly figure out how to
see which Table style is applied to my table. There is no table style listed
called "List Bullet" in my list of Table Styles in Use. I originally based
my custom table on "Table Normal".
Does this information shed light on the issue?
Any ideas what to do about it?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If the style doesn't include bullets, then pressing Ctrl+Q in any "infected"
paragraph should remove them.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame
wrote in message ...
The TableBody Style does has not itself picked up any bulleting in the

style
setting whatsoever making this problem all the more mysterious. Each time

I
apply the style to a paragraph, the bullets are applied. When i select an
"infected" paragraph, open the Format Bullets and Numbering / Paragraph
dialog boxes, the rogue settings are in place but when i select to modify

the
style itself, there are no such settings in place.

I don't usually use the formatting toolbar at all except in this instance

i
already did use it to reset the bullets with my custom style name as you

have
also suggested.

I prefer to use custom styels for all formatting including bullets and

bold
as well. Every custom style has been created from scratch and based on the
no style option. Even though this makes global updating a very inelegant
chore, which i avoid having to do.

Automatic updates is not selected for any style. Numbered styles are

custom
ones included in macro sequences that insert fileds for restarting

counters
and continuing.
I try as far as I am able to maintain a "safe" template unhindered by

common
problems that Word is prone to create.

Thanks for your suggestions but is there something else i can do?


"Margaret Aldis" wrote:

Check your TableBody style is not set to "Automatically Update" - if it

is
then when you bullet a TableBody paragraph that setting will get applied

to
the style as well.

If that's not it then have a look in Format Bullets and Numbering and
reset any pane that shows a bullet format with the TableBody stylename -

if
that bullet formatting gets applied it will create the link to the

style,
even if the style was not previously bulleted.

Either way, you will also need to modify the TableBody style itself to
remove the bullet formatting it seems to have picked up.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
Syntagma partnership site:
http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org




"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame


wrote in message

...
I have a custom table body style based on no style.

I have applied specific attributes tot he style and it has worked well

for
me until today.

When the style is applied, the paragraph displays with bullets and

tabs.
The
TableBody style has no such attributes and i have to manually select
occurences and use the formatting bar to remove the unwanted

attributes.

How and where are these attributes becoming linked ot the style. I

have
checked the style settings and there is no indication that the

unwanted
attributes have been applied to the style.

How can I fix this problem?

I dont want to trash the template because it is a custom template with
many
styles and macros.

Is there a way to "get under the hood" and clean out the template?








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Frustrated Frame User
 
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I've reapplied the correct table style to my tables by placing the cursor or
selecting the table, clicking the Table Table Style link in Reveal
Formatting and selecting the appropriate table style from the list in Table
AutoFormat dialog box.

Strange though that my tables acquired a style called "List Bullet" which
doesn't exist in my list of "Tables styles in use". Or, maybe not strange for
Word.

Thanks to Margaret Aldis and Suzanne S. Barnhill for your contributions.

"Frustrated Frame User" wrote:

That doesn't work for me but then I selected a random paragraph in the table
with the TableBody style applied and clicked on Format Reveal Formatting. I
expanded "Table" under which is listed, "Table Style: List Bullet"
What does this mean, is the table itself rather than the paragraph style
somehow affected?
I can't figure out where to change this and i cant exactly figure out how to
see which Table style is applied to my table. There is no table style listed
called "List Bullet" in my list of Table Styles in Use. I originally based
my custom table on "Table Normal".
Does this information shed light on the issue?
Any ideas what to do about it?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If the style doesn't include bullets, then pressing Ctrl+Q in any "infected"
paragraph should remove them.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame
wrote in message ...
The TableBody Style does has not itself picked up any bulleting in the

style
setting whatsoever making this problem all the more mysterious. Each time

I
apply the style to a paragraph, the bullets are applied. When i select an
"infected" paragraph, open the Format Bullets and Numbering / Paragraph
dialog boxes, the rogue settings are in place but when i select to modify

the
style itself, there are no such settings in place.

I don't usually use the formatting toolbar at all except in this instance

i
already did use it to reset the bullets with my custom style name as you

have
also suggested.

I prefer to use custom styels for all formatting including bullets and

bold
as well. Every custom style has been created from scratch and based on the
no style option. Even though this makes global updating a very inelegant
chore, which i avoid having to do.

Automatic updates is not selected for any style. Numbered styles are

custom
ones included in macro sequences that insert fileds for restarting

counters
and continuing.
I try as far as I am able to maintain a "safe" template unhindered by

common
problems that Word is prone to create.

Thanks for your suggestions but is there something else i can do?


"Margaret Aldis" wrote:

Check your TableBody style is not set to "Automatically Update" - if it

is
then when you bullet a TableBody paragraph that setting will get applied

to
the style as well.

If that's not it then have a look in Format Bullets and Numbering and
reset any pane that shows a bullet format with the TableBody stylename -

if
that bullet formatting gets applied it will create the link to the

style,
even if the style was not previously bulleted.

Either way, you will also need to modify the TableBody style itself to
remove the bullet formatting it seems to have picked up.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
Syntagma partnership site:
http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org




"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame


wrote in message

...
I have a custom table body style based on no style.

I have applied specific attributes tot he style and it has worked well

for
me until today.

When the style is applied, the paragraph displays with bullets and

tabs.
The
TableBody style has no such attributes and i have to manually select
occurences and use the formatting bar to remove the unwanted

attributes.

How and where are these attributes becoming linked ot the style. I

have
checked the style settings and there is no indication that the

unwanted
attributes have been applied to the style.

How can I fix this problem?

I dont want to trash the template because it is a custom template with
many
styles and macros.

Is there a way to "get under the hood" and clean out the template?






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..... i forgot to add that my tableBody style now no longer acquires a bullet
when appplied to a paragraph in the table so i can only assume that the
problem was somehow caused by a property in the phantom table style "List
Bullet".

"Frustrated Frame User" wrote:

I've reapplied the correct table style to my tables by placing the cursor or
selecting the table, clicking the Table Table Style link in Reveal
Formatting and selecting the appropriate table style from the list in Table
AutoFormat dialog box.

Strange though that my tables acquired a style called "List Bullet" which
doesn't exist in my list of "Tables styles in use". Or, maybe not strange for
Word.

Thanks to Margaret Aldis and Suzanne S. Barnhill for your contributions.

"Frustrated Frame User" wrote:

That doesn't work for me but then I selected a random paragraph in the table
with the TableBody style applied and clicked on Format Reveal Formatting. I
expanded "Table" under which is listed, "Table Style: List Bullet"
What does this mean, is the table itself rather than the paragraph style
somehow affected?
I can't figure out where to change this and i cant exactly figure out how to
see which Table style is applied to my table. There is no table style listed
called "List Bullet" in my list of Table Styles in Use. I originally based
my custom table on "Table Normal".
Does this information shed light on the issue?
Any ideas what to do about it?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If the style doesn't include bullets, then pressing Ctrl+Q in any "infected"
paragraph should remove them.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame
wrote in message ...
The TableBody Style does has not itself picked up any bulleting in the
style
setting whatsoever making this problem all the more mysterious. Each time
I
apply the style to a paragraph, the bullets are applied. When i select an
"infected" paragraph, open the Format Bullets and Numbering / Paragraph
dialog boxes, the rogue settings are in place but when i select to modify
the
style itself, there are no such settings in place.

I don't usually use the formatting toolbar at all except in this instance
i
already did use it to reset the bullets with my custom style name as you
have
also suggested.

I prefer to use custom styels for all formatting including bullets and
bold
as well. Every custom style has been created from scratch and based on the
no style option. Even though this makes global updating a very inelegant
chore, which i avoid having to do.

Automatic updates is not selected for any style. Numbered styles are
custom
ones included in macro sequences that insert fileds for restarting
counters
and continuing.
I try as far as I am able to maintain a "safe" template unhindered by
common
problems that Word is prone to create.

Thanks for your suggestions but is there something else i can do?


"Margaret Aldis" wrote:

Check your TableBody style is not set to "Automatically Update" - if it
is
then when you bullet a TableBody paragraph that setting will get applied
to
the style as well.

If that's not it then have a look in Format Bullets and Numbering and
reset any pane that shows a bullet format with the TableBody stylename -
if
that bullet formatting gets applied it will create the link to the
style,
even if the style was not previously bulleted.

Either way, you will also need to modify the TableBody style itself to
remove the bullet formatting it seems to have picked up.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
Syntagma partnership site:
http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org




"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame

wrote in message
...
I have a custom table body style based on no style.

I have applied specific attributes tot he style and it has worked well
for
me until today.

When the style is applied, the paragraph displays with bullets and
tabs.
The
TableBody style has no such attributes and i have to manually select
occurences and use the formatting bar to remove the unwanted
attributes.

How and where are these attributes becoming linked ot the style. I
have
checked the style settings and there is no indication that the
unwanted
attributes have been applied to the style.

How can I fix this problem?

I dont want to trash the template because it is a custom template with
many
styles and macros.

Is there a way to "get under the hood" and clean out the template?






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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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Table styles and list styles are two innovations that are not quite ready
for prime time.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Frustrated Frame User"
wrote in message ...
.... i forgot to add that my tableBody style now no longer acquires a

bullet
when appplied to a paragraph in the table so i can only assume that the
problem was somehow caused by a property in the phantom table style "List
Bullet".

"Frustrated Frame User" wrote:

I've reapplied the correct table style to my tables by placing the

cursor or
selecting the table, clicking the Table Table Style link in Reveal
Formatting and selecting the appropriate table style from the list in

Table
AutoFormat dialog box.

Strange though that my tables acquired a style called "List Bullet"

which
doesn't exist in my list of "Tables styles in use". Or, maybe not

strange for
Word.

Thanks to Margaret Aldis and Suzanne S. Barnhill for your contributions.

"Frustrated Frame User" wrote:

That doesn't work for me but then I selected a random paragraph in the

table
with the TableBody style applied and clicked on Format Reveal

Formatting. I
expanded "Table" under which is listed, "Table Style: List Bullet"
What does this mean, is the table itself rather than the paragraph

style
somehow affected?
I can't figure out where to change this and i cant exactly figure out

how to
see which Table style is applied to my table. There is no table style

listed
called "List Bullet" in my list of Table Styles in Use. I originally

based
my custom table on "Table Normal".
Does this information shed light on the issue?
Any ideas what to do about it?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If the style doesn't include bullets, then pressing Ctrl+Q in any

"infected"
paragraph should remove them.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame


wrote in message

...
The TableBody Style does has not itself picked up any bulleting in

the
style
setting whatsoever making this problem all the more mysterious.

Each time
I
apply the style to a paragraph, the bullets are applied. When i

select an
"infected" paragraph, open the Format Bullets and Numbering /

Paragraph
dialog boxes, the rogue settings are in place but when i select to

modify
the
style itself, there are no such settings in place.

I don't usually use the formatting toolbar at all except in this

instance
i
already did use it to reset the bullets with my custom style name

as you
have
also suggested.

I prefer to use custom styels for all formatting including

bullets and
bold
as well. Every custom style has been created from scratch and

based on the
no style option. Even though this makes global updating a very

inelegant
chore, which i avoid having to do.

Automatic updates is not selected for any style. Numbered styles

are
custom
ones included in macro sequences that insert fileds for restarting
counters
and continuing.
I try as far as I am able to maintain a "safe" template unhindered

by
common
problems that Word is prone to create.

Thanks for your suggestions but is there something else i can do?


"Margaret Aldis" wrote:

Check your TableBody style is not set to "Automatically

Update" - if it
is
then when you bullet a TableBody paragraph that setting will get

applied
to
the style as well.

If that's not it then have a look in Format Bullets and

Numbering and
reset any pane that shows a bullet format with the TableBody

stylename -
if
that bullet formatting gets applied it will create the link to

the
style,
even if the style was not previously bulleted.

Either way, you will also need to modify the TableBody style

itself to
remove the bullet formatting it seems to have picked up.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
Syntagma partnership site:
http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org




"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame

wrote in message
...
I have a custom table body style based on no style.

I have applied specific attributes tot he style and it has

worked well
for
me until today.

When the style is applied, the paragraph displays with bullets

and
tabs.
The
TableBody style has no such attributes and i have to manually

select
occurences and use the formatting bar to remove the unwanted
attributes.

How and where are these attributes becoming linked ot the

style. I
have
checked the style settings and there is no indication that the
unwanted
attributes have been applied to the style.

How can I fix this problem?

I dont want to trash the template because it is a custom

template with
many
styles and macros.

Is there a way to "get under the hood" and clean out the

template?







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Frustrated Frame User
 
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Are there any articles or documents that sheds more light on working with
these?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Table styles and list styles are two innovations that are not quite ready
for prime time.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Frustrated Frame User"
wrote in message ...
.... i forgot to add that my tableBody style now no longer acquires a

bullet
when appplied to a paragraph in the table so i can only assume that the
problem was somehow caused by a property in the phantom table style "List
Bullet".

"Frustrated Frame User" wrote:

I've reapplied the correct table style to my tables by placing the

cursor or
selecting the table, clicking the Table Table Style link in Reveal
Formatting and selecting the appropriate table style from the list in

Table
AutoFormat dialog box.

Strange though that my tables acquired a style called "List Bullet"

which
doesn't exist in my list of "Tables styles in use". Or, maybe not

strange for
Word.

Thanks to Margaret Aldis and Suzanne S. Barnhill for your contributions.

"Frustrated Frame User" wrote:

That doesn't work for me but then I selected a random paragraph in the

table
with the TableBody style applied and clicked on Format Reveal

Formatting. I
expanded "Table" under which is listed, "Table Style: List Bullet"
What does this mean, is the table itself rather than the paragraph

style
somehow affected?
I can't figure out where to change this and i cant exactly figure out

how to
see which Table style is applied to my table. There is no table style

listed
called "List Bullet" in my list of Table Styles in Use. I originally

based
my custom table on "Table Normal".
Does this information shed light on the issue?
Any ideas what to do about it?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If the style doesn't include bullets, then pressing Ctrl+Q in any

"infected"
paragraph should remove them.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame


wrote in message

...
The TableBody Style does has not itself picked up any bulleting in

the
style
setting whatsoever making this problem all the more mysterious.

Each time
I
apply the style to a paragraph, the bullets are applied. When i

select an
"infected" paragraph, open the Format Bullets and Numbering /

Paragraph
dialog boxes, the rogue settings are in place but when i select to

modify
the
style itself, there are no such settings in place.

I don't usually use the formatting toolbar at all except in this

instance
i
already did use it to reset the bullets with my custom style name

as you
have
also suggested.

I prefer to use custom styels for all formatting including

bullets and
bold
as well. Every custom style has been created from scratch and

based on the
no style option. Even though this makes global updating a very

inelegant
chore, which i avoid having to do.

Automatic updates is not selected for any style. Numbered styles

are
custom
ones included in macro sequences that insert fileds for restarting
counters
and continuing.
I try as far as I am able to maintain a "safe" template unhindered

by
common
problems that Word is prone to create.

Thanks for your suggestions but is there something else i can do?


"Margaret Aldis" wrote:

Check your TableBody style is not set to "Automatically

Update" - if it
is
then when you bullet a TableBody paragraph that setting will get

applied
to
the style as well.

If that's not it then have a look in Format Bullets and

Numbering and
reset any pane that shows a bullet format with the TableBody

stylename -
if
that bullet formatting gets applied it will create the link to

the
style,
even if the style was not previously bulleted.

Either way, you will also need to modify the TableBody style

itself to
remove the bullet formatting it seems to have picked up.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
Syntagma partnership site:
http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org




"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame

wrote in message
...
I have a custom table body style based on no style.

I have applied specific attributes tot he style and it has

worked well
for
me until today.

When the style is applied, the paragraph displays with bullets

and
tabs.
The
TableBody style has no such attributes and i have to manually

select
occurences and use the formatting bar to remove the unwanted
attributes.

How and where are these attributes becoming linked ot the

style. I
have
checked the style settings and there is no indication that the
unwanted
attributes have been applied to the style.

How can I fix this problem?

I dont want to trash the template because it is a custom

template with
many
styles and macros.

Is there a way to "get under the hood" and clean out the

template?








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I don't know of any. Most knowledgeable users who have tried to use them
have found them (a) undocumented, (b) frustrating, and (c) probably a good
idea that was incompletely implemented. We're hoping for improvement in Word
12.

--
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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Frustrated Frame User"
wrote in message ...
Are there any articles or documents that sheds more light on working with
these?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Table styles and list styles are two innovations that are not quite

ready
for prime time.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Frustrated Frame User"
wrote in message

...
.... i forgot to add that my tableBody style now no longer acquires a

bullet
when appplied to a paragraph in the table so i can only assume that

the
problem was somehow caused by a property in the phantom table style

"List
Bullet".

"Frustrated Frame User" wrote:

I've reapplied the correct table style to my tables by placing the

cursor or
selecting the table, clicking the Table Table Style link in Reveal
Formatting and selecting the appropriate table style from the list

in
Table
AutoFormat dialog box.

Strange though that my tables acquired a style called "List Bullet"

which
doesn't exist in my list of "Tables styles in use". Or, maybe not

strange for
Word.

Thanks to Margaret Aldis and Suzanne S. Barnhill for your

contributions.

"Frustrated Frame User" wrote:

That doesn't work for me but then I selected a random paragraph in

the
table
with the TableBody style applied and clicked on Format Reveal

Formatting. I
expanded "Table" under which is listed, "Table Style: List Bullet"
What does this mean, is the table itself rather than the paragraph

style
somehow affected?
I can't figure out where to change this and i cant exactly figure

out
how to
see which Table style is applied to my table. There is no table

style
listed
called "List Bullet" in my list of Table Styles in Use. I

originally
based
my custom table on "Table Normal".
Does this information shed light on the issue?
Any ideas what to do about it?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If the style doesn't include bullets, then pressing Ctrl+Q in

any
"infected"
paragraph should remove them.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame


wrote in message

...
The TableBody Style does has not itself picked up any

bulleting in
the
style
setting whatsoever making this problem all the more

mysterious.
Each time
I
apply the style to a paragraph, the bullets are applied. When

i
select an
"infected" paragraph, open the Format Bullets and Numbering

/
Paragraph
dialog boxes, the rogue settings are in place but when i

select to
modify
the
style itself, there are no such settings in place.

I don't usually use the formatting toolbar at all except in

this
instance
i
already did use it to reset the bullets with my custom style

name
as you
have
also suggested.

I prefer to use custom styels for all formatting including

bullets and
bold
as well. Every custom style has been created from scratch and

based on the
no style option. Even though this makes global updating a

very
inelegant
chore, which i avoid having to do.

Automatic updates is not selected for any style. Numbered

styles
are
custom
ones included in macro sequences that insert fileds for

restarting
counters
and continuing.
I try as far as I am able to maintain a "safe" template

unhindered
by
common
problems that Word is prone to create.

Thanks for your suggestions but is there something else i can

do?


"Margaret Aldis" wrote:

Check your TableBody style is not set to "Automatically

Update" - if it
is
then when you bullet a TableBody paragraph that setting will

get
applied
to
the style as well.

If that's not it then have a look in Format Bullets and

Numbering and
reset any pane that shows a bullet format with the TableBody

stylename -
if
that bullet formatting gets applied it will create the link

to
the
style,
even if the style was not previously bulleted.

Either way, you will also need to modify the TableBody style

itself to
remove the bullet formatting it seems to have picked up.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
Syntagma partnership site:
http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org




"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame

wrote in message
...
I have a custom table body style based on no style.

I have applied specific attributes tot he style and it has

worked well
for
me until today.

When the style is applied, the paragraph displays with

bullets
and
tabs.
The
TableBody style has no such attributes and i have to

manually
select
occurences and use the formatting bar to remove the

unwanted
attributes.

How and where are these attributes becoming linked ot the

style. I
have
checked the style settings and there is no indication that

the
unwanted
attributes have been applied to the style.

How can I fix this problem?

I dont want to trash the template because it is a custom

template with
many
styles and macros.

Is there a way to "get under the hood" and clean out the

template?











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Thank you so much for coming back with the additional information on this. I
think your analysis sounds right, but since there is no official way of
getting a Table Style to apply a Paragraph Style or list formatting, and
you should not have been able to create a Table Style with the same name as
a built-in Paragraph Style (List Bullet), I think you should treat this
cross-over as a potential corruption, and clean out the file (rebuild the
template in a fresh document).

Given that List Templates can't be deleted, I would guess that your document
or template still contains a List Template in which one of the levels is
linked to a table style . In following up on your post I managed to do this
from the B&N dialog, and achieved a similar effect to the one you
described - within a table set to this rogue table style, all the paragraphs
took on and retained the linked numbering format, regardless of the
paragraph formatting.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org

"Frustrated Frame User"
wrote in message news
I've reapplied the correct table style to my tables by placing the cursor
or
selecting the table, clicking the Table Table Style link in Reveal
Formatting and selecting the appropriate table style from the list in
Table
AutoFormat dialog box.

Strange though that my tables acquired a style called "List Bullet" which
doesn't exist in my list of "Tables styles in use". Or, maybe not strange
for
Word.

Thanks to Margaret Aldis and Suzanne S. Barnhill for your contributions.

"Frustrated Frame User" wrote:

That doesn't work for me but then I selected a random paragraph in the
table
with the TableBody style applied and clicked on Format Reveal
Formatting. I
expanded "Table" under which is listed, "Table Style: List Bullet"
What does this mean, is the table itself rather than the paragraph style
somehow affected?
I can't figure out where to change this and i cant exactly figure out how
to
see which Table style is applied to my table. There is no table style
listed
called "List Bullet" in my list of Table Styles in Use. I originally
based
my custom table on "Table Normal".
Does this information shed light on the issue?
Any ideas what to do about it?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If the style doesn't include bullets, then pressing Ctrl+Q in any
"infected"
paragraph should remove them.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame

wrote in message
...
The TableBody Style does has not itself picked up any bulleting in
the
style
setting whatsoever making this problem all the more mysterious. Each
time
I
apply the style to a paragraph, the bullets are applied. When i
select an
"infected" paragraph, open the Format Bullets and Numbering /
Paragraph
dialog boxes, the rogue settings are in place but when i select to
modify
the
style itself, there are no such settings in place.

I don't usually use the formatting toolbar at all except in this
instance
i
already did use it to reset the bullets with my custom style name as
you
have
also suggested.

I prefer to use custom styels for all formatting including bullets
and
bold
as well. Every custom style has been created from scratch and based
on the
no style option. Even though this makes global updating a very
inelegant
chore, which i avoid having to do.

Automatic updates is not selected for any style. Numbered styles are
custom
ones included in macro sequences that insert fileds for restarting
counters
and continuing.
I try as far as I am able to maintain a "safe" template unhindered by
common
problems that Word is prone to create.

Thanks for your suggestions but is there something else i can do?


"Margaret Aldis" wrote:

Check your TableBody style is not set to "Automatically Update" -
if it
is
then when you bullet a TableBody paragraph that setting will get
applied
to
the style as well.

If that's not it then have a look in Format Bullets and Numbering
and
reset any pane that shows a bullet format with the TableBody
stylename -
if
that bullet formatting gets applied it will create the link to the
style,
even if the style was not previously bulleted.

Either way, you will also need to modify the TableBody style itself
to
remove the bullet formatting it seems to have picked up.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
Syntagma partnership site:
http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org




"Frustrated Frame User" Frustrated Frame

wrote in message
...
I have a custom table body style based on no style.

I have applied specific attributes tot he style and it has worked
well
for
me until today.

When the style is applied, the paragraph displays with bullets
and
tabs.
The
TableBody style has no such attributes and i have to manually
select
occurences and use the formatting bar to remove the unwanted
attributes.

How and where are these attributes becoming linked ot the style.
I
have
checked the style settings and there is no indication that the
unwanted
attributes have been applied to the style.

How can I fix this problem?

I dont want to trash the template because it is a custom template
with
many
styles and macros.

Is there a way to "get under the hood" and clean out the
template?








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