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I am trying to have an outline numbered document in this format, in Word 2003.

Heading 1
1 Heading 2
1.1 Heading 3
1.1.1 Body Text
1.2 Heading 3
1.2.1 Body text
1.2.2 Body text

"Body text" is where the main content of the document is. I can do this with
the Outliner and just make Heading 4 as a simple looking body text style, and
it works fine, but thought there might be a "right" way, such as numbering
the Body Text paragpahs sequentially. Does anyone have any comment?

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Hi dca

The technique to follow to set up the numbering is described at
Use page numbering and let the text flow from page to page
http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/concepts/pagenumbers/

You can substitute Body Text for Heading 4 if you choose. I'm not sure
whether using Body Text or Heading 4 is the "right" way to do this, but when
I have to choose, I consider things like:

- are likely to copy and paste from this document to others, and if so,
would they expect these paragraphs to be headings or body text?

- how will users format the text when they paste text into this document?

- are you likely to have to save to HTML and if so is it important to get
the semantics right (ie you wouldn't want to mark as a heading material that
really is body text).

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"dca" wrote in message
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I am trying to have an outline numbered document in this format, in Word
2003.

Heading 1
1 Heading 2
1.1 Heading 3
1.1.1 Body Text
1.2 Heading 3
1.2.1 Body text
1.2.2 Body text

"Body text" is where the main content of the document is. I can do this
with
the Outliner and just make Heading 4 as a simple looking body text style,
and
it works fine, but thought there might be a "right" way, such as numbering
the Body Text paragpahs sequentially. Does anyone have any comment?



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Shauna, did you perhaps mean to cite
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html instead?

--
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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Shauna Kelly" wrote in message
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Hi dca

The technique to follow to set up the numbering is described at
Use page numbering and let the text flow from page to page
http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/concepts/pagenumbers/

You can substitute Body Text for Heading 4 if you choose. I'm not sure
whether using Body Text or Heading 4 is the "right" way to do this, but

when
I have to choose, I consider things like:

- are likely to copy and paste from this document to others, and if so,
would they expect these paragraphs to be headings or body text?

- how will users format the text when they paste text into this document?

- are you likely to have to save to HTML and if so is it important to get
the semantics right (ie you wouldn't want to mark as a heading material

that
really is body text).

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"dca" wrote in message
...
I am trying to have an outline numbered document in this format, in Word
2003.

Heading 1
1 Heading 2
1.1 Heading 3
1.1.1 Body Text
1.2 Heading 3
1.2.1 Body text
1.2.2 Body text

"Body text" is where the main content of the document is. I can do this
with
the Outliner and just make Heading 4 as a simple looking body text

style,
and
it works fine, but thought there might be a "right" way, such as

numbering
the Body Text paragpahs sequentially. Does anyone have any comment?




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Hey Shauna,

Thank you for such a fast response! I read a lot of your stuff today when
search round for this and found it really helpful.

I take your points about the purpose of the document; that does make good
sense.

Sorry to be dumb but I can't work out which part in the reference you gave
refers to giving the body text paragraphs the numbers, in the form 1.2.2 etc.
The only way I have been able to do that is to make them take a heading
style. The bit I am really stuck on is how to number the Body Text paragraphs
so they aren't in one long list, i.e. so that they take the first two level
numbers from the Level they are in, and then the next number is sequential
within that Level.

(BTW, Heading 1 without a number is just for a chapter heading so I know
that makes it a bit confusing - essentially what I really want to do is to
make Body Text paragraphs have the right number in the beginning of the
paragraph.)

"Shauna Kelly" wrote:

Hi dca

The technique to follow to set up the numbering is described at
Use page numbering and let the text flow from page to page
http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/concepts/pagenumbers/

You can substitute Body Text for Heading 4 if you choose. I'm not sure
whether using Body Text or Heading 4 is the "right" way to do this, but when
I have to choose, I consider things like:

- are likely to copy and paste from this document to others, and if so,
would they expect these paragraphs to be headings or body text?

- how will users format the text when they paste text into this document?

- are you likely to have to save to HTML and if so is it important to get
the semantics right (ie you wouldn't want to mark as a heading material that
really is body text).

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"dca" wrote in message
...
I am trying to have an outline numbered document in this format, in Word
2003.

Heading 1
1 Heading 2
1.1 Heading 3
1.1.1 Body Text
1.2 Heading 3
1.2.1 Body text
1.2.2 Body text

"Body text" is where the main content of the document is. I can do this
with
the Outliner and just make Heading 4 as a simple looking body text style,
and
it works fine, but thought there might be a "right" way, such as numbering
the Body Text paragpahs sequentially. Does anyone have any comment?




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Thanks Suzanne. That could be it. I did read that one really carefully
earlier, and it's just the bottom level, which I really want to be Body Text
but be numbered properly, that I can't for the life of me work out. I can do
the higher levels OK.

DCA

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Shauna, did you perhaps mean to cite
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html instead?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Shauna Kelly" wrote in message
...
Hi dca

The technique to follow to set up the numbering is described at
Use page numbering and let the text flow from page to page
http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/concepts/pagenumbers/

You can substitute Body Text for Heading 4 if you choose. I'm not sure
whether using Body Text or Heading 4 is the "right" way to do this, but

when
I have to choose, I consider things like:

- are likely to copy and paste from this document to others, and if so,
would they expect these paragraphs to be headings or body text?

- how will users format the text when they paste text into this document?

- are you likely to have to save to HTML and if so is it important to get
the semantics right (ie you wouldn't want to mark as a heading material

that
really is body text).

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"dca" wrote in message
...
I am trying to have an outline numbered document in this format, in Word
2003.

Heading 1
1 Heading 2
1.1 Heading 3
1.1.1 Body Text
1.2 Heading 3
1.2.1 Body text
1.2.2 Body text

"Body text" is where the main content of the document is. I can do this
with
the Outliner and just make Heading 4 as a simple looking body text

style,
and
it works fine, but thought there might be a "right" way, such as

numbering
the Body Text paragpahs sequentially. Does anyone have any comment?







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As Shauna says, whether you use Heading 4 and format it as body text or use
Body Text and give it Level 4 numbering, it should come to the same thing
provided you link the numbering to the appropriate style at the bottom of
the dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"dca" wrote in message
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Thanks Suzanne. That could be it. I did read that one really carefully
earlier, and it's just the bottom level, which I really want to be Body

Text
but be numbered properly, that I can't for the life of me work out. I can

do
the higher levels OK.

DCA

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Shauna, did you perhaps mean to cite
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html instead?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Shauna Kelly" wrote in

message
...
Hi dca

The technique to follow to set up the numbering is described at
Use page numbering and let the text flow from page to page
http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/concepts/pagenumbers/

You can substitute Body Text for Heading 4 if you choose. I'm not sure
whether using Body Text or Heading 4 is the "right" way to do this,

but
when
I have to choose, I consider things like:

- are likely to copy and paste from this document to others, and if

so,
would they expect these paragraphs to be headings or body text?

- how will users format the text when they paste text into this

document?

- are you likely to have to save to HTML and if so is it important to

get
the semantics right (ie you wouldn't want to mark as a heading

material
that
really is body text).

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"dca" wrote in message
...
I am trying to have an outline numbered document in this format, in

Word
2003.

Heading 1
1 Heading 2
1.1 Heading 3
1.1.1 Body Text
1.2 Heading 3
1.2.1 Body text
1.2.2 Body text

"Body text" is where the main content of the document is. I can do

this
with
the Outliner and just make Heading 4 as a simple looking body text

style,
and
it works fine, but thought there might be a "right" way, such as

numbering
the Body Text paragpahs sequentially. Does anyone have any comment?






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OK, thank you both. I've got it. There was one more step to do which was to
link Level 4 in the outline to the Body Text style, as you say, and also
restart numbering after level 3. This was the bit I couldn't do. It seems
obvious now but it didn't yesterday.

DCA

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

As Shauna says, whether you use Heading 4 and format it as body text or use
Body Text and give it Level 4 numbering, it should come to the same thing
provided you link the numbering to the appropriate style at the bottom of
the dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"dca" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne. That could be it. I did read that one really carefully
earlier, and it's just the bottom level, which I really want to be Body

Text
but be numbered properly, that I can't for the life of me work out. I can

do
the higher levels OK.

DCA

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Shauna, did you perhaps mean to cite
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html instead?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Shauna Kelly" wrote in

message
...
Hi dca

The technique to follow to set up the numbering is described at
Use page numbering and let the text flow from page to page
http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/concepts/pagenumbers/

You can substitute Body Text for Heading 4 if you choose. I'm not sure
whether using Body Text or Heading 4 is the "right" way to do this,

but
when
I have to choose, I consider things like:

- are likely to copy and paste from this document to others, and if

so,
would they expect these paragraphs to be headings or body text?

- how will users format the text when they paste text into this

document?

- are you likely to have to save to HTML and if so is it important to

get
the semantics right (ie you wouldn't want to mark as a heading

material
that
really is body text).

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"dca" wrote in message
...
I am trying to have an outline numbered document in this format, in

Word
2003.

Heading 1
1 Heading 2
1.1 Heading 3
1.1.1 Body Text
1.2 Heading 3
1.2.1 Body text
1.2.2 Body text

"Body text" is where the main content of the document is. I can do

this
with
the Outliner and just make Heading 4 as a simple looking body text
style,
and
it works fine, but thought there might be a "right" way, such as
numbering
the Body Text paragpahs sequentially. Does anyone have any comment?







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I'm glad someone knows what I'm supposed to be doing!

Shauna

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Shauna, did you perhaps mean to cite
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html instead?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Shauna Kelly" wrote in message
...
Hi dca

The technique to follow to set up the numbering is described at
Use page numbering and let the text flow from page to page
http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/concepts/pagenumbers/

You can substitute Body Text for Heading 4 if you choose. I'm not sure
whether using Body Text or Heading 4 is the "right" way to do this, but

when
I have to choose, I consider things like:

- are likely to copy and paste from this document to others, and if so,
would they expect these paragraphs to be headings or body text?

- how will users format the text when they paste text into this document?

- are you likely to have to save to HTML and if so is it important to get
the semantics right (ie you wouldn't want to mark as a heading material

that
really is body text).

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"dca" wrote in message
...
I am trying to have an outline numbered document in this format, in Word
2003.

Heading 1
1 Heading 2
1.1 Heading 3
1.1.1 Body Text
1.2 Heading 3
1.2.1 Body text
1.2.2 Body text

"Body text" is where the main content of the document is. I can do this
with
the Outliner and just make Heading 4 as a simple looking body text

style,
and
it works fine, but thought there might be a "right" way, such as

numbering
the Body Text paragpahs sequentially. Does anyone have any comment?






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Hi

I'm glad you got it working. Sorry about sending the wrong link.

Shauna

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"dca" wrote in message
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OK, thank you both. I've got it. There was one more step to do which was
to
link Level 4 in the outline to the Body Text style, as you say, and also
restart numbering after level 3. This was the bit I couldn't do. It seems
obvious now but it didn't yesterday.

DCA

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

As Shauna says, whether you use Heading 4 and format it as body text or
use
Body Text and give it Level 4 numbering, it should come to the same thing
provided you link the numbering to the appropriate style at the bottom of
the dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"dca" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne. That could be it. I did read that one really carefully
earlier, and it's just the bottom level, which I really want to be Body

Text
but be numbered properly, that I can't for the life of me work out. I
can

do
the higher levels OK.

DCA

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Shauna, did you perhaps mean to cite
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html
instead?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Shauna Kelly" wrote in

message
...
Hi dca

The technique to follow to set up the numbering is described at
Use page numbering and let the text flow from page to page
http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/concepts/pagenumbers/

You can substitute Body Text for Heading 4 if you choose. I'm not
sure
whether using Body Text or Heading 4 is the "right" way to do this,

but
when
I have to choose, I consider things like:

- are likely to copy and paste from this document to others, and if

so,
would they expect these paragraphs to be headings or body text?

- how will users format the text when they paste text into this

document?

- are you likely to have to save to HTML and if so is it important
to

get
the semantics right (ie you wouldn't want to mark as a heading

material
that
really is body text).

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"dca" wrote in message
...
I am trying to have an outline numbered document in this format,
in

Word
2003.

Heading 1
1 Heading 2
1.1 Heading 3
1.1.1 Body Text
1.2 Heading 3
1.2.1 Body text
1.2.2 Body text

"Body text" is where the main content of the document is. I can
do

this
with
the Outliner and just make Heading 4 as a simple looking body
text
style,
and
it works fine, but thought there might be a "right" way, such as
numbering
the Body Text paragpahs sequentially. Does anyone have any
comment?









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