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Baseline Shift with Exact Line Space
Why does Word shift the baseline downward when you specify EXACT line
spacing? I have some fonts that have ridiculously large internal leading. Setting DOUBLE for a 14pt font gives only 14 lines on a page with 1" margins (compared to 21 with Times New Roman). If I do a typographic double spacing,and set EXACT to 28 pts., Word shifts the baseline down about 9 pt. This screws up spacing with other styles. Is there an easy way to compensate? |
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Baseline Shift with Exact Line Space
You might experiment with the Compatibility Option "Don't center 'exact line
height' lines." The wording of this is actually nonsense, since they're not "centered" to begin with, but enabling this option does make a difference in their position. You can also experiment with the "Suppress extra line spacing" options. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org wrote in message ... Why does Word shift the baseline downward when you specify EXACT line spacing? I have some fonts that have ridiculously large internal leading. Setting DOUBLE for a 14pt font gives only 14 lines on a page with 1" margins (compared to 21 with Times New Roman). If I do a typographic double spacing,and set EXACT to 28 pts., Word shifts the baseline down about 9 pt. This screws up spacing with other styles. Is there an easy way to compensate? |
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Baseline Shift with Exact Line Space
But note that the option is useless if your lines contain text of different
sizes, in which case the distance between baselines will no longer be fixed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You might experiment with the Compatibility Option "Don't center 'exact line height' lines." The wording of this is actually nonsense, since they're not "centered" to begin with, but enabling this option does make a difference in their position. You can also experiment with the "Suppress extra line spacing" options. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org wrote in message ... Why does Word shift the baseline downward when you specify EXACT line spacing? I have some fonts that have ridiculously large internal leading. Setting DOUBLE for a 14pt font gives only 14 lines on a page with 1" margins (compared to 21 with Times New Roman). If I do a typographic double spacing,and set EXACT to 28 pts., Word shifts the baseline down about 9 pt. This screws up spacing with other styles. Is there an easy way to compensate? |
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Baseline Shift with Exact Line Space
The topic at issue here is exact line spacing, which does result in text
with the same distance between baselines. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that the option is useless if your lines contain text of different sizes, in which case the distance between baselines will no longer be fixed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You might experiment with the Compatibility Option "Don't center 'exact line height' lines." The wording of this is actually nonsense, since they're not "centered" to begin with, but enabling this option does make a difference in their position. You can also experiment with the "Suppress extra line spacing" options. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org wrote in message ... Why does Word shift the baseline downward when you specify EXACT line spacing? I have some fonts that have ridiculously large internal leading. Setting DOUBLE for a 14pt font gives only 14 lines on a page with 1" margins (compared to 21 with Times New Roman). If I do a typographic double spacing,and set EXACT to 28 pts., Word shifts the baseline down about 9 pt. This screws up spacing with other styles. Is there an easy way to compensate? |
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Baseline Shift with Exact Line Space
I'm referring to exact line spacing too. :-)
Note that if you select the "Don't center 'exact line height' lines" option and then format a word larger than the others, the whole line will move down: text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. LARGE TEXT HERE. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. In other words, the distance between (in this example) line 2 and 3 will be larger, but the distance between lines 1 and 4 will be three times the selected fixed line spacing. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The topic at issue here is exact line spacing, which does result in text with the same distance between baselines. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that the option is useless if your lines contain text of different sizes, in which case the distance between baselines will no longer be fixed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You might experiment with the Compatibility Option "Don't center 'exact line height' lines." The wording of this is actually nonsense, since they're not "centered" to begin with, but enabling this option does make a difference in their position. You can also experiment with the "Suppress extra line spacing" options. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org wrote in message ... Why does Word shift the baseline downward when you specify EXACT line spacing? I have some fonts that have ridiculously large internal leading. Setting DOUBLE for a 14pt font gives only 14 lines on a page with 1" margins (compared to 21 with Times New Roman). If I do a typographic double spacing,and set EXACT to 28 pts., Word shifts the baseline down about 9 pt. This screws up spacing with other styles. Is there an easy way to compensate? |
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Okay, I see what you're saying now. This is awful! (Makes sense, I suppose,
but it's still awful.) -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... I'm referring to exact line spacing too. :-) Note that if you select the "Don't center 'exact line height' lines" option and then format a word larger than the others, the whole line will move down: text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. LARGE TEXT HERE. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. In other words, the distance between (in this example) line 2 and 3 will be larger, but the distance between lines 1 and 4 will be three times the selected fixed line spacing. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The topic at issue here is exact line spacing, which does result in text with the same distance between baselines. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that the option is useless if your lines contain text of different sizes, in which case the distance between baselines will no longer be fixed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You might experiment with the Compatibility Option "Don't center 'exact line height' lines." The wording of this is actually nonsense, since they're not "centered" to begin with, but enabling this option does make a difference in their position. You can also experiment with the "Suppress extra line spacing" options. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org wrote in message ... Why does Word shift the baseline downward when you specify EXACT line spacing? I have some fonts that have ridiculously large internal leading. Setting DOUBLE for a 14pt font gives only 14 lines on a page with 1" margins (compared to 21 with Times New Roman). If I do a typographic double spacing,and set EXACT to 28 pts., Word shifts the baseline down about 9 pt. This screws up spacing with other styles. Is there an easy way to compensate? |
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It is certainly awful. I'm not sure it makes sense, either. :-)
-- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Okay, I see what you're saying now. This is awful! (Makes sense, I suppose, but it's still awful.) -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... I'm referring to exact line spacing too. :-) Note that if you select the "Don't center 'exact line height' lines" option and then format a word larger than the others, the whole line will move down: text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. LARGE TEXT HERE. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. In other words, the distance between (in this example) line 2 and 3 will be larger, but the distance between lines 1 and 4 will be three times the selected fixed line spacing. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The topic at issue here is exact line spacing, which does result in text with the same distance between baselines. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that the option is useless if your lines contain text of different sizes, in which case the distance between baselines will no longer be fixed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You might experiment with the Compatibility Option "Don't center 'exact line height' lines." The wording of this is actually nonsense, since they're not "centered" to begin with, but enabling this option does make a difference in their position. You can also experiment with the "Suppress extra line spacing" options. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org wrote in message ... Why does Word shift the baseline downward when you specify EXACT line spacing? I have some fonts that have ridiculously large internal leading. Setting DOUBLE for a 14pt font gives only 14 lines on a page with 1" margins (compared to 21 with Times New Roman). If I do a typographic double spacing,and set EXACT to 28 pts., Word shifts the baseline down about 9 pt. This screws up spacing with other styles. Is there an easy way to compensate? |
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Baseline Shift with Exact Line Space
No, not if you try to figure out what Word really means by "center." Seems
like the result when you have "Don't center" enabled is more "centered" than otherwise. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... It is certainly awful. I'm not sure it makes sense, either. :-) -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Okay, I see what you're saying now. This is awful! (Makes sense, I suppose, but it's still awful.) -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... I'm referring to exact line spacing too. :-) Note that if you select the "Don't center 'exact line height' lines" option and then format a word larger than the others, the whole line will move down: text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. LARGE TEXT HERE. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. In other words, the distance between (in this example) line 2 and 3 will be larger, but the distance between lines 1 and 4 will be three times the selected fixed line spacing. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The topic at issue here is exact line spacing, which does result in text with the same distance between baselines. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that the option is useless if your lines contain text of different sizes, in which case the distance between baselines will no longer be fixed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You might experiment with the Compatibility Option "Don't center 'exact line height' lines." The wording of this is actually nonsense, since they're not "centered" to begin with, but enabling this option does make a difference in their position. You can also experiment with the "Suppress extra line spacing" options. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org wrote in message ... Why does Word shift the baseline downward when you specify EXACT line spacing? I have some fonts that have ridiculously large internal leading. Setting DOUBLE for a 14pt font gives only 14 lines on a page with 1" margins (compared to 21 with Times New Roman). If I do a typographic double spacing,and set EXACT to 28 pts., Word shifts the baseline down about 9 pt. This screws up spacing with other styles. Is there an easy way to compensate? |
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Maybe that's where I'm running into problems! :-)
To me, "Don't center..." seems to add the line spacing below the text, which is what happens with non-fixed line spacing. I'm not sure why the option would affect the relative position of the text line. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... No, not if you try to figure out what Word really means by "center." Seems like the result when you have "Don't center" enabled is more "centered" than otherwise. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... It is certainly awful. I'm not sure it makes sense, either. :-) -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Okay, I see what you're saying now. This is awful! (Makes sense, I suppose, but it's still awful.) -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... I'm referring to exact line spacing too. :-) Note that if you select the "Don't center 'exact line height' lines" option and then format a word larger than the others, the whole line will move down: text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. LARGE TEXT HERE. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. text here. In other words, the distance between (in this example) line 2 and 3 will be larger, but the distance between lines 1 and 4 will be three times the selected fixed line spacing. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... The topic at issue here is exact line spacing, which does result in text with the same distance between baselines. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... But note that the option is useless if your lines contain text of different sizes, in which case the distance between baselines will no longer be fixed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... You might experiment with the Compatibility Option "Don't center 'exact line height' lines." The wording of this is actually nonsense, since they're not "centered" to begin with, but enabling this option does make a difference in their position. You can also experiment with the "Suppress extra line spacing" options. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org wrote in message ... Why does Word shift the baseline downward when you specify EXACT line spacing? I have some fonts that have ridiculously large internal leading. Setting DOUBLE for a 14pt font gives only 14 lines on a page with 1" margins (compared to 21 with Times New Roman). If I do a typographic double spacing,and set EXACT to 28 pts., Word shifts the baseline down about 9 pt. This screws up spacing with other styles. Is there an easy way to compensate? |
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