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Cross-references and Outline View in Word 2003
When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it
breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. |
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Did you update the fields in the document? Ctrl+A, F9 ? 'Jose Valdes[_3_ Wrote: ;2483481']When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. -- Henk57 |
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You should be able to prevent the problem if you do as follows:
1. Before moving the heading, click at the _end_ of the heading/paragraph immediately _above_ the place where you want to move the heading and press Return to insert an empty paragraph. 2. Then drag the heading you want to move and drop it in the empty paragraph you inserted. 3. Finally, delete the empty paragraph that remains. The procedure above cannot be used in case you want to move the heading to the start of the document (because you have no preceding paragraph). See the demos found at the following address for an explanation: http://www.thedoctools.com/index.php...erence_trouble The demo below Problem 3 illustrates the problem you have experienced. The demo below Problem 1 illustrates why pressing Return at the end of a heading will not spoil any cross-references to that heading. -- Regards Lene Fredborg DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Jose Valdes" wrote: When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. |
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My dear friend,
Yes, I update the field, and the cross-reference brings across more information than I want because MS Word has so helpfully moved the opening bracket of my bookmark without my consent or knowledge. Your question suggests that I have failed to explain my problem despite my best efforts. I apologize for my lack of clarity and thank you for replying nonetheless. Sincerely, A guy who writes too much on this newsgroup and not enough in his manuals "Henk57" wrote in message ... Did you update the fields in the document? Ctrl+A, F9 ? 'Jose Valdes[_3_ Wrote: ;2483481']When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. -- Henk57 |
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If anyone is reading, please give me feedback. Why did I fail to get more
replies to this message? A. No one knows the answer. B. No one read the message because it is too long. C. No one understood the message because it was not written clearly. D. No one thought the problem was important enough because it has a workaround. E. Write in your own answer. I cheerfully welcome all flames and public floggings in the hopes of posting better messages on this newsgroup. ;-) "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. |
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Have you read my answer? (posted november 16).
-- Regards Lene Fredborg DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Jose Valdes" wrote: If anyone is reading, please give me feedback. Why did I fail to get more replies to this message? A. No one knows the answer. B. No one read the message because it is too long. C. No one understood the message because it was not written clearly. D. No one thought the problem was important enough because it has a workaround. E. Write in your own answer. I cheerfully welcome all flames and public floggings in the hopes of posting better messages on this newsgroup. ;-) "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. |
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I was about to reply with a link to your page, Lene, but then I saw you'd
already done so, so I refrained. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... Have you read my answer? (posted november 16). -- Regards Lene Fredborg DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Jose Valdes" wrote: If anyone is reading, please give me feedback. Why did I fail to get more replies to this message? A. No one knows the answer. B. No one read the message because it is too long. C. No one understood the message because it was not written clearly. D. No one thought the problem was important enough because it has a workaround. E. Write in your own answer. I cheerfully welcome all flames and public floggings in the hopes of posting better messages on this newsgroup. ;-) "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. |
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If you can read the other messages in this thread, then you should be able
to see Lene's, which was a direct reply to your original post. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... No, sorry. I did not get any message from you. Please forward it to and post it to this newsgroup so everyone can benefit. On November 16th, I got the dreaded "Your mailbox is over its size limit" from the System Administrator. I have since cleaned up my mailbox with AutoArchive and I should get all email sent my way. Sorry! "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... Have you read my answer? (posted november 16). -- Regards Lene Fredborg DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Jose Valdes" wrote: If anyone is reading, please give me feedback. Why did I fail to get more replies to this message? A. No one knows the answer. B. No one read the message because it is too long. C. No one understood the message because it was not written clearly. D. No one thought the problem was important enough because it has a workaround. E. Write in your own answer. I cheerfully welcome all flames and public floggings in the hopes of posting better messages on this newsgroup. ;-) "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. |
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Lene!
Thanks! You have correctly diagnosed the problem. Your online demo is also very helpful! I cannot see your messaged, posted on Nov 16th, while using Outlook Express to view this newsgroup. When I follow the link below, however, I see the message just fine in the Web interface. I don't know why your message appears in one place, but not the other. This incident makes me wonder how many other messages I have failed to see and what to do about it. Thanks! José -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lene Fredborg ] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:39 AM To: Valdes, Jose Subject: Cross-reference - copy of my answer from November 16 Hi Jose, Just to be sure that you have my answer, you will find a copy below. I can reproduce the problem you describe and the procedure I have described works. My answer is posted in the thread where you posted the question: http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...5-4fba39be8f45 Are you sure, you cannot see it? --------------COPY OF ANSWER START----------------------------- You should be able to prevent the problem if you do as follows: 1. Before moving the heading, click at the _end_ of the heading/paragraph immediately _above_ the place where you want to move the heading and press Return to insert an empty paragraph. 2. Then drag the heading you want to move and drop it in the empty paragraph you inserted. 3. Finally, delete the empty paragraph that remains. The procedure above cannot be used in case you want to move the heading to the start of the document (because you have no preceding paragraph). See the demos found at the following address for an explanation: http://www.thedoctools.com/index.php...erence_trouble The demo below Problem 3 illustrates the problem you have experienced. The demo below Problem 1 illustrates why pressing Return at the end of a heading will not spoil any cross-references to that heading. --------------COPY OF ANSWER END----------------------------- Best regards Lene Fredborg DocTools www.thedoctools.com No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date: 17-11-2007 14:55 "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... Have you read my answer? (posted november 16). -- Regards Lene Fredborg DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Jose Valdes" wrote: If anyone is reading, please give me feedback. Why did I fail to get more replies to this message? A. No one knows the answer. B. No one read the message because it is too long. C. No one understood the message because it was not written clearly. D. No one thought the problem was important enough because it has a workaround. E. Write in your own answer. I cheerfully welcome all flames and public floggings in the hopes of posting better messages on this newsgroup. ;-) "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. |
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My apologies to Lene Fredborg who correctly answered my question. I don't
know why, but his message (posted on Nov 16th) is invisible to my installation of Outlook Express 6. See below for more details. Sorry! José "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. |
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I'm not sure why you didn't see it, either; I'm using OE6 and did see it,
but sometimes the way messages are threaded makes answers to the original post less obvious if a long thread has developed above them. Also note that Lene is female. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... My apologies to Lene Fredborg who correctly answered my question. I don't know why, but his message (posted on Nov 16th) is invisible to my installation of Outlook Express 6. See below for more details. Sorry! José "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. |
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More apologies to Lene Fredborg
In this message, my goal is to write an apology to Lene Fredborg without
sticking a foot in my mouth and writing additional apologies. ;-) Here I go: Lene, I am sorry that I have been addressing you with personal pronouns such as he and him. As an ignorant American male who assumes that everyone I deal with is also male, I have made this mistake often and should keep a standard form letter for this apology. Maybe, there's a greeting card from Hallmark that addresses this apology. I'll look into it. ;-) To everyone on this small planet, please continue to let me know when I have offended people who have helped me through my little MS Word problems. I don't think I can make it at my job if I alienate the community on this newsgroup. ;-) Sorry! José "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I'm not sure why you didn't see it, either; I'm using OE6 and did see it, but sometimes the way messages are threaded makes answers to the original post less obvious if a long thread has developed above them. Also note that Lene is female. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... My apologies to Lene Fredborg who correctly answered my question. I don't know why, but his message (posted on Nov 16th) is invisible to my installation of Outlook Express 6. See below for more details. Sorry! José "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. |
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Suzanne,
Considering the number of boneheaded mistakes that I have made on this newsgroup, you are quite right to assume that I cannot follow the thread of a simple conversation. ;-) In this isolated case, I am innocent. Please look at the attached PNG file and you will see a screen capture of my Outlook Express 6 window. You will see that no message is displayed for November 16th by Lene Fredborg. I have searched on her name and other key words such as "outline" to no avail. The message is not there. I am sorry that you cannot reproduce my problem with your install of OE6. Anyway, Suzanne, thank you for pointing out my other, numerous, egregious errors. Thanks! José "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I'm not sure why you didn't see it, either; I'm using OE6 and did see it, but sometimes the way messages are threaded makes answers to the original post less obvious if a long thread has developed above them. Also note that Lene is female. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... My apologies to Lene Fredborg who correctly answered my question. I don't know why, but his message (posted on Nov 16th) is invisible to my installation of Outlook Express 6. See below for more details. Sorry! José "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. |
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Dear Jose, I dont think anyone here think you are an offending person. No need to be hard on yourself. You said your question wasnt clear, when I asked "Did you update the fields". Well, I just wanted to be sure that the obvious was done, before digging deeper. Then Lene came with a very to the point answer, so there was no need to go into more detail. Glad yr problem is solved, and thanks to Lene: I learned something about Word's mysteries also. 'Jose Valdes[_3_ Wrote: ;2487222']Suzanne, Considering the number of boneheaded mistakes that I have made on this newsgroup, you are quite right to assume that I cannot follow the thread of a simple conversation. ;-) In this isolated case, I am innocent. Please look at the attached PNG file and you will see a screen capture of my Outlook Express 6 window. You will see that no message is displayed for November 16th by Lene Fredborg. I have searched on her name and other key words such as "outline" to no avail. The message is not there. I am sorry that you cannot reproduce my problem with your install of OE6. Anyway, Suzanne, thank you for pointing out my other, numerous, egregious errors. Thanks! José "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...- I'm not sure why you didn't see it, either; I'm using OE6 and did see it, but sometimes the way messages are threaded makes answers to the original post less obvious if a long thread has developed above them. Also note that Lene is female. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ...- My apologies to Lene Fredborg who correctly answered my question. I don't know why, but his message (posted on Nov 16th) is invisible to my installation of Outlook Express 6. See below for more details. Sorry! José "Jose Valdes" wrote in- message- ...- When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my-- manuals,-- it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a-- cross-reference-- to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy.-- ;-)-- Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body-- text-- under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show-- all-- of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view-- to-- move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use-- cut-- and paste to avoid this problem. - - - -- Henk57 |
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Cross-references and Outline View in Word 2003
That really is mysterious. I wonder if it could have anything to do with the
fact that you have this thread marked as "watched." ISTR that there is some sort of bug concerning watched threads, but I can't find anything relevant with Google, so probably I'm making it up. I usually read NGs with read messages hidden, so I had to Show All Messages and hunt for this thread; when I did, however, I saw all the messages in the thread, including Lene's 11/16 one. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... Suzanne, Considering the number of boneheaded mistakes that I have made on this newsgroup, you are quite right to assume that I cannot follow the thread of a simple conversation. ;-) In this isolated case, I am innocent. Please look at the attached PNG file and you will see a screen capture of my Outlook Express 6 window. You will see that no message is displayed for November 16th by Lene Fredborg. I have searched on her name and other key words such as "outline" to no avail. The message is not there. I am sorry that you cannot reproduce my problem with your install of OE6. Anyway, Suzanne, thank you for pointing out my other, numerous, egregious errors. Thanks! José "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I'm not sure why you didn't see it, either; I'm using OE6 and did see it, but sometimes the way messages are threaded makes answers to the original post less obvious if a long thread has developed above them. Also note that Lene is female. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... My apologies to Lene Fredborg who correctly answered my question. I don't know why, but his message (posted on Nov 16th) is invisible to my installation of Outlook Express 6. See below for more details. Sorry! José "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. |
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More apologies to Lene Fredborg
No problem at all. You are forgiven ;-)
-- Regards Lene Fredborg DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Jose Valdes" wrote: In this message, my goal is to write an apology to Lene Fredborg without sticking a foot in my mouth and writing additional apologies. ;-) Here I go: Lene, I am sorry that I have been addressing you with personal pronouns such as he and him. As an ignorant American male who assumes that everyone I deal with is also male, I have made this mistake often and should keep a standard form letter for this apology. Maybe, there's a greeting card from Hallmark that addresses this apology. I'll look into it. ;-) To everyone on this small planet, please continue to let me know when I have offended people who have helped me through my little MS Word problems. I don't think I can make it at my job if I alienate the community on this newsgroup. ;-) Sorry! José "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I'm not sure why you didn't see it, either; I'm using OE6 and did see it, but sometimes the way messages are threaded makes answers to the original post less obvious if a long thread has developed above them. Also note that Lene is female. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... My apologies to Lene Fredborg who correctly answered my question. I don't know why, but his message (posted on Nov 16th) is invisible to my installation of Outlook Express 6. See below for more details. Sorry! José "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ... When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my manuals, it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a cross-reference to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy. ;-) Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body text under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show all of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view to move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use cut and paste to avoid this problem. |
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Cross-references and Outline View in Word 2003
Thanks for the reply. By the way, don't take the non-technical information
in my posts too seriously. My self-flagellation was an attempt at humor. ;-) "Henk57" wrote in message ... Dear Jose, I dont think anyone here think you are an offending person. No need to be hard on yourself. You said your question wasnt clear, when I asked "Did you update the fields". Well, I just wanted to be sure that the obvious was done, before digging deeper. Then Lene came with a very to the point answer, so there was no need to go into more detail. Glad yr problem is solved, and thanks to Lene: I learned something about Word's mysteries also. 'Jose Valdes[_3_ Wrote: ;2487222']Suzanne, Considering the number of boneheaded mistakes that I have made on this newsgroup, you are quite right to assume that I cannot follow the thread of a simple conversation. ;-) In this isolated case, I am innocent. Please look at the attached PNG file and you will see a screen capture of my Outlook Express 6 window. You will see that no message is displayed for November 16th by Lene Fredborg. I have searched on her name and other key words such as "outline" to no avail. The message is not there. I am sorry that you cannot reproduce my problem with your install of OE6. Anyway, Suzanne, thank you for pointing out my other, numerous, egregious errors. Thanks! José "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...- I'm not sure why you didn't see it, either; I'm using OE6 and did see it, but sometimes the way messages are threaded makes answers to the original post less obvious if a long thread has developed above them. Also note that Lene is female. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jose Valdes" wrote in message ...- My apologies to Lene Fredborg who correctly answered my question. I don't know why, but his message (posted on Nov 16th) is invisible to my installation of Outlook Express 6. See below for more details. Sorry! José "Jose Valdes" wrote in- message- ...- When I use outline view to rearrange the order of headings in my-- manuals,-- it breaks my cross-references. In the following example, I want to use outline view to move Heading C above B without breaking a-- cross-reference-- to B that is under D. Follow me? Sorry, I'm trying to make this easy.-- ;-)-- Please notice the square brackets around Heading B. They represent the bookmark used by the X-ref under D. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading B] Body text for B. Heading C Body text for C. Heading D Hey see "Heading B" for really neat info. When I move C above B, C takes the opening bookmark with it. Instead of having a bookmark that points just to Heading B, it points to C, body-- text-- under C, and Heading B. The cross-reference to this bookmark now show-- all-- of this information. Heading A Body text for A. [Heading C Body text for C. Heading B] Body text for B. Heading D Hey see "Heading C Body text for C. Heading B" for really neat info. Does anyone know how to avoid moving bookmarks when using outline view-- to-- move paragraphs around? If not, don't worry about it. Currently, I use-- cut-- and paste to avoid this problem. - - - -- Henk57 |
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