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Word fields - how do I stop REFs being inserted?
Hi there,
I have this IF statement, amongst others, in a template at the moment: {IF {ref COMP}= "" "" "{ref COMP /* CHARFORMAT}"} COMP is a bookmark that is SET at the beginning of the template to the company name that should have been passed from our company contacts database (ACT!) by {SET COMP "[[Company]]"}. However, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it prints the correct information and sometimes you get the name of the field instead. It's not too much of a problem when I only have one contact to write to, but we're now in the position where we need to do a mailshot to all of our customers and obviously can't risk any of them not being included in the mailing. I think the problem is the first {ref COMP} which should just be {COMP} but every time I save the template and open it again Word keeps putting all the REF's I took out back in. Does anyone have any idea how to stop it doing that? (I don't know why it is as I have other templates where it doesn't put them in and they work fine - very frustrating!!) Many thanks in advance to anybody who can help! Alison |
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PS...I am using Word 2002 if that helps!
Sorry - I forgot to mention it!
Alison "MeWivFree" wrote: Hi there, I have this IF statement, amongst others, in a template at the moment: {IF {ref COMP}= "" "" "{ref COMP /* CHARFORMAT}"} COMP is a bookmark that is SET at the beginning of the template to the company name that should have been passed from our company contacts database (ACT!) by {SET COMP "[[Company]]"}. However, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it prints the correct information and sometimes you get the name of the field instead. It's not too much of a problem when I only have one contact to write to, but we're now in the position where we need to do a mailshot to all of our customers and obviously can't risk any of them not being included in the mailing. I think the problem is the first {ref COMP} which should just be {COMP} but every time I save the template and open it again Word keeps putting all the REF's I took out back in. Does anyone have any idea how to stop it doing that? (I don't know why it is as I have other templates where it doesn't put them in and they work fine - very frustrating!!) Many thanks in advance to anybody who can help! Alison |
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They should all be REF fields. Are the field delimiters actual delimiters or
are they typed braces? If you are changing a document that is based on a template by deleting or changing fields, that change is not made in the template and will not be reflected in new documents. For mailings where you have a list of people/companies why not use mailmerge? -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "MeWivFree" wrote in message ... Hi there, I have this IF statement, amongst others, in a template at the moment: {IF {ref COMP}= "" "" "{ref COMP /* CHARFORMAT}"} COMP is a bookmark that is SET at the beginning of the template to the company name that should have been passed from our company contacts database (ACT!) by {SET COMP "[[Company]]"}. However, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it prints the correct information and sometimes you get the name of the field instead. It's not too much of a problem when I only have one contact to write to, but we're now in the position where we need to do a mailshot to all of our customers and obviously can't risk any of them not being included in the mailing. I think the problem is the first {ref COMP} which should just be {COMP} but every time I save the template and open it again Word keeps putting all the REF's I took out back in. Does anyone have any idea how to stop it doing that? (I don't know why it is as I have other templates where it doesn't put them in and they work fine - very frustrating!!) Many thanks in advance to anybody who can help! Alison |
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Word fields - how do I stop REFs being inserted?
Hi Charles
Thanks very much for the extremely prompt reponse! I don't seem to be able to use mailmerge as I cannot get Word to recognise the ACT! database (.dbf extension) as a source. The {}'s are entered using the CTRL-F9 method and the field names in [[]]'s are inserted by editing the document template using ACT! and picking the field names from the list that I am offered (if that makes any sense!) Thanks Alison "Charles Kenyon" wrote: They should all be REF fields. Are the field delimiters actual delimiters or are they typed braces? If you are changing a document that is based on a template by deleting or changing fields, that change is not made in the template and will not be reflected in new documents. For mailings where you have a list of people/companies why not use mailmerge? -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "MeWivFree" wrote in message ... Hi there, I have this IF statement, amongst others, in a template at the moment: {IF {ref COMP}= "" "" "{ref COMP /* CHARFORMAT}"} COMP is a bookmark that is SET at the beginning of the template to the company name that should have been passed from our company contacts database (ACT!) by {SET COMP "[[Company]]"}. However, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it prints the correct information and sometimes you get the name of the field instead. It's not too much of a problem when I only have one contact to write to, but we're now in the position where we need to do a mailshot to all of our customers and obviously can't risk any of them not being included in the mailing. I think the problem is the first {ref COMP} which should just be {COMP} but every time I save the template and open it again Word keeps putting all the REF's I took out back in. Does anyone have any idea how to stop it doing that? (I don't know why it is as I have other templates where it doesn't put them in and they work fine - very frustrating!!) Many thanks in advance to anybody who can help! Alison |
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Word fields - how do I stop REFs being inserted?
Can you export your selected ACT records to a comma- or tab-delimited text
file and use that instead? I'm not familiar with ACT (haven't used it for more than 10 years) and its interface with Word. The other thing you should be aware of is that REF fields do not usually update when the bookmark changes. They have to be updated through some other process. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "MeWivFree" wrote in message ... Hi Charles Thanks very much for the extremely prompt reponse! I don't seem to be able to use mailmerge as I cannot get Word to recognise the ACT! database (.dbf extension) as a source. The {}'s are entered using the CTRL-F9 method and the field names in [[]]'s are inserted by editing the document template using ACT! and picking the field names from the list that I am offered (if that makes any sense!) Thanks Alison "Charles Kenyon" wrote: They should all be REF fields. Are the field delimiters actual delimiters or are they typed braces? If you are changing a document that is based on a template by deleting or changing fields, that change is not made in the template and will not be reflected in new documents. For mailings where you have a list of people/companies why not use mailmerge? -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "MeWivFree" wrote in message ... Hi there, I have this IF statement, amongst others, in a template at the moment: {IF {ref COMP}= "" "" "{ref COMP /* CHARFORMAT}"} COMP is a bookmark that is SET at the beginning of the template to the company name that should have been passed from our company contacts database (ACT!) by {SET COMP "[[Company]]"}. However, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it prints the correct information and sometimes you get the name of the field instead. It's not too much of a problem when I only have one contact to write to, but we're now in the position where we need to do a mailshot to all of our customers and obviously can't risk any of them not being included in the mailing. I think the problem is the first {ref COMP} which should just be {COMP} but every time I save the template and open it again Word keeps putting all the REF's I took out back in. Does anyone have any idea how to stop it doing that? (I don't know why it is as I have other templates where it doesn't put them in and they work fine - very frustrating!!) Many thanks in advance to anybody who can help! Alison |
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Thanks again Charles - I will export them to a tab-delimited file and see how
that goes. ACT! seems to be a bit of a pain and I think it is possibly it that is causing the problem rather than Word! Unfortunately nothing else seems to be sufficient for our sales director's needs so use ACT! we must!! I have successfully used the same IF statements with other contact and document management programs before and this is the only one that has ever given me trouble like this! Alison "Charles Kenyon" wrote: Can you export your selected ACT records to a comma- or tab-delimited text file and use that instead? I'm not familiar with ACT (haven't used it for more than 10 years) and its interface with Word. The other thing you should be aware of is that REF fields do not usually update when the bookmark changes. They have to be updated through some other process. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "MeWivFree" wrote in message ... Hi Charles Thanks very much for the extremely prompt reponse! I don't seem to be able to use mailmerge as I cannot get Word to recognise the ACT! database (.dbf extension) as a source. The {}'s are entered using the CTRL-F9 method and the field names in [[]]'s are inserted by editing the document template using ACT! and picking the field names from the list that I am offered (if that makes any sense!) Thanks Alison "Charles Kenyon" wrote: They should all be REF fields. Are the field delimiters actual delimiters or are they typed braces? If you are changing a document that is based on a template by deleting or changing fields, that change is not made in the template and will not be reflected in new documents. For mailings where you have a list of people/companies why not use mailmerge? -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "MeWivFree" wrote in message ... Hi there, I have this IF statement, amongst others, in a template at the moment: {IF {ref COMP}= "" "" "{ref COMP /* CHARFORMAT}"} COMP is a bookmark that is SET at the beginning of the template to the company name that should have been passed from our company contacts database (ACT!) by {SET COMP "[[Company]]"}. However, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it prints the correct information and sometimes you get the name of the field instead. It's not too much of a problem when I only have one contact to write to, but we're now in the position where we need to do a mailshot to all of our customers and obviously can't risk any of them not being included in the mailing. I think the problem is the first {ref COMP} which should just be {COMP} but every time I save the template and open it again Word keeps putting all the REF's I took out back in. Does anyone have any idea how to stop it doing that? (I don't know why it is as I have other templates where it doesn't put them in and they work fine - very frustrating!!) Many thanks in advance to anybody who can help! Alison |
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Word fields - how do I stop REFs being inserted?
Some versions of Word have had difficulty resolving nul fields written the
manner you have portrayed them. Reversing the field in those circumstances tends to be more reliable. Try {IF {ref COMP} "" "{ref COMP /* CHARFORMAT}"} -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org MeWivFree wrote: Thanks again Charles - I will export them to a tab-delimited file and see how that goes. ACT! seems to be a bit of a pain and I think it is possibly it that is causing the problem rather than Word! Unfortunately nothing else seems to be sufficient for our sales director's needs so use ACT! we must!! I have successfully used the same IF statements with other contact and document management programs before and this is the only one that has ever given me trouble like this! Alison "Charles Kenyon" wrote: Can you export your selected ACT records to a comma- or tab-delimited text file and use that instead? I'm not familiar with ACT (haven't used it for more than 10 years) and its interface with Word. The other thing you should be aware of is that REF fields do not usually update when the bookmark changes. They have to be updated through some other process. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "MeWivFree" wrote in message ... Hi Charles Thanks very much for the extremely prompt reponse! I don't seem to be able to use mailmerge as I cannot get Word to recognise the ACT! database (.dbf extension) as a source. The {}'s are entered using the CTRL-F9 method and the field names in [[]]'s are inserted by editing the document template using ACT! and picking the field names from the list that I am offered (if that makes any sense!) Thanks Alison "Charles Kenyon" wrote: They should all be REF fields. Are the field delimiters actual delimiters or are they typed braces? If you are changing a document that is based on a template by deleting or changing fields, that change is not made in the template and will not be reflected in new documents. For mailings where you have a list of people/companies why not use mailmerge? -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "MeWivFree" wrote in message ... Hi there, I have this IF statement, amongst others, in a template at the moment: {IF {ref COMP}= "" "" "{ref COMP /* CHARFORMAT}"} COMP is a bookmark that is SET at the beginning of the template to the company name that should have been passed from our company contacts database (ACT!) by {SET COMP "[[Company]]"}. However, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it prints the correct information and sometimes you get the name of the field instead. It's not too much of a problem when I only have one contact to write to, but we're now in the position where we need to do a mailshot to all of our customers and obviously can't risk any of them not being included in the mailing. I think the problem is the first {ref COMP} which should just be {COMP} but every time I save the template and open it again Word keeps putting all the REF's I took out back in. Does anyone have any idea how to stop it doing that? (I don't know why it is as I have other templates where it doesn't put them in and they work fine - very frustrating!!) Many thanks in advance to anybody who can help! Alison |
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