[Anna Kezer]

I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a column break into a
bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at the end of the
first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to join the bullet
(number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a square layout
(basically, to manually push away the bullet).

I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous bullet and at the
beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column - the same problem.

The orphan control is on.

Any suggestions?

[CyberTaz]

Can't confirm this in PC Word right now, but on my Mac this technique works
fine:

Assume you have a 10-item list, the sixth of which is:

6. Man bites Dog

Place the insertion point at the start of the "M", then create the column
break. In my case items 1-5 remain in column 1 & items 6-10 move to column 2
without any disruption or problem.

If that won't work for you, try removing the number/bullet formatting,
create the column break, then select the list & reapply the formatting.

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 7/14/06 4:39 PM, in article
, "Anna Kezer"
wrote:

I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a column break into a
bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at the end of the
first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to join the bullet
(number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a square layout
(basically, to manually push away the bullet).

I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous bullet and at the
beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column - the same problem.

The orphan control is on.

Any suggestions?

[Stefan Blom]

When you add a column break in a text paragraph, the text after the
break is moved to the next column (as expected). Also, text added
before the column break will never flow across the break; that way,
the two "parts" of text are separated.

However, the text after the break will not have its own bullet (or
numbering) formatting; that way, the "split" paragraph is still a
single paragraph.

You would have to separate the paragraph from the column break. This
will be easier to do if you press the ¶ button so that Word displays
nonprinting characters. You will now see, among other things, ¶
symbols which represents paragraph marks. (For more, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/NonPrintChars.htm.) Place the
cursor at the end of the text in the first column, just before the
break. Press Enter. Copy the text that belongs to the former bullet
(number) into that paragraph.

With nonprinting characters displayed, you would then see the
following:

- Bulleted item - Another bulleted item¶
More text here.¶ More text follows here.
column break - A bulleted item again¶

Note: You will have to look at this message in a monospaced font, such
as Courier New, if you want the example above to look correctly.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Anna Kezer" wrote in message
...
I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a column
break into a
bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at the
end of the
first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to join
the bullet
(number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a
square layout
(basically, to manually push away the bullet).

I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous bullet
and at the
beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column - the same
problem.

The orphan control is on.

Any suggestions?

[Anna Kezer]

Thank you for your answers!

Stefan, here is how my text looks with NonPrint Chars (better in monospaced
font as well):

2.- text2 text2 text2 text3 text3 text3
text2 text2 text2 text3 text3.¶
text2 text2.¶ 4.- text4 text4 text4
3.- ---Column Break-- text4 text4.¶

And whatever I do, I still can't make '3.' to join the 'text3' in the second
column - besides pushing it up with 'square' wrapping of the picture.

To be technically precise, this particular behaviour appears only when
there is a picture on the page. If I insert a column break with no picutre
object in the page, Word keeps the number in the correct column. But as soon
as I add a picture, the problem above occurs. If a colum break is inserted
with a picutre already on the page, it would again separate correctly - but
only until pictire is moved or an element i added to it. This happens
regardless of the wrapping format of the picture. Typically, I use "behind
the text" wrapping which should have eliminated any interaction of a picture
object with the text.

.....

Actually, with NonPrintChars being on, I just found the answer: the problem
is in the picture's anchor. When the picture is just inserted or the column
break just created, the anchor is assigned to the end of the last paragraph
in the second column. However, any change to the page leads to immeadiate
reassignment of the anchor to the end of the first column, which pulls the
number from the second column back to the end of the first...

Any suggestion how can I stop Word from helping me with this automatic
reassignment?!

Anna


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

When you add a column break in a text paragraph, the text after the
break is moved to the next column (as expected). Also, text added
before the column break will never flow across the break; that way,
the two "parts" of text are separated.

However, the text after the break will not have its own bullet (or
numbering) formatting; that way, the "split" paragraph is still a
single paragraph.

You would have to separate the paragraph from the column break. This
will be easier to do if you press the ¶ button so that Word displays
nonprinting characters. You will now see, among other things, ¶
symbols which represents paragraph marks. (For more, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/NonPrintChars.htm.) Place the
cursor at the end of the text in the first column, just before the
break. Press Enter. Copy the text that belongs to the former bullet
(number) into that paragraph.

With nonprinting characters displayed, you would then see the
following:

- Bulleted item - Another bulleted item¶
More text here.¶ More text follows here.
column break - A bulleted item again¶

Note: You will have to look at this message in a monospaced font, such
as Courier New, if you want the example above to look correctly.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Anna Kezer" wrote in message
...
I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a column
break into a
bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at the
end of the
first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to join
the bullet
(number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a
square layout
(basically, to manually push away the bullet).

I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous bullet
and at the
beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column - the same
problem.

The orphan control is on.

Any suggestions?

[Stefan Blom]

This is an odd issue; I don't recall ever hearing about it before.

If you want to stop the anchor from moving, try locking it. First move
it by dragging it to the desired paragraph. Then lock the anchor: In
Format | Picture, click the Layout tab. Click the Advanced button.
Check the "Lock anchor" option and click OK twice.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Anna Kezer" wrote in message
...
Thank you for your answers!

Stefan, here is how my text looks with NonPrint Chars (better in
monospaced
font as well):

2.- text2 text2 text2 text3 text3 text3
text2 text2 text2 text3 text3.¶
text2 text2.¶ 4.- text4 text4 text4
3.- ---Column Break-- text4 text4.¶

And whatever I do, I still can't make '3.' to join the 'text3' in
the second
column - besides pushing it up with 'square' wrapping of the
picture.

To be technically precise, this particular behaviour appears only
when
there is a picture on the page. If I insert a column break with no
picutre
object in the page, Word keeps the number in the correct column. But
as soon
as I add a picture, the problem above occurs. If a colum break is
inserted
with a picutre already on the page, it would again separate
correctly - but
only until pictire is moved or an element i added to it. This
happens
regardless of the wrapping format of the picture. Typically, I use
"behind
the text" wrapping which should have eliminated any interaction of a
picture
object with the text.

....

Actually, with NonPrintChars being on, I just found the answer: the
problem
is in the picture's anchor. When the picture is just inserted or the
column
break just created, the anchor is assigned to the end of the last
paragraph
in the second column. However, any change to the page leads to
immeadiate
reassignment of the anchor to the end of the first column, which
pulls the
number from the second column back to the end of the first...

Any suggestion how can I stop Word from helping me with this
automatic
reassignment?!

Anna


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

When you add a column break in a text paragraph, the text after
the
break is moved to the next column (as expected). Also, text added
before the column break will never flow across the break; that
way,
the two "parts" of text are separated.

However, the text after the break will not have its own bullet (or
numbering) formatting; that way, the "split" paragraph is still a
single paragraph.

You would have to separate the paragraph from the column break.
This
will be easier to do if you press the ¶ button so that Word
displays
nonprinting characters. You will now see, among other things, ¶
symbols which represents paragraph marks. (For more, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/NonPrintChars.htm.) Place the
cursor at the end of the text in the first column, just before the
break. Press Enter. Copy the text that belongs to the former
bullet
(number) into that paragraph.

With nonprinting characters displayed, you would then see the
following:

- Bulleted item - Another bulleted item¶
More text here.¶ More text follows here.
column break - A bulleted item again¶

Note: You will have to look at this message in a monospaced font,
such
as Courier New, if you want the example above to look correctly.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Anna Kezer" wrote in message
...
I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a column
break into a
bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at
the
end of the
first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to
join
the bullet
(number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a
square layout
(basically, to manually push away the bullet).

I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous
bullet
and at the
beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column - the

same
problem.

The orphan control is on.

Any suggestions?

[Stefan Blom]

Another thing to check is whether the issue can be reproduced in a new
document. If not, the problem document might be corrupt. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/apperrors/CorruptDoc.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
This is an odd issue; I don't recall ever hearing about it before.

If you want to stop the anchor from moving, try locking it. First
move
it by dragging it to the desired paragraph. Then lock the anchor: In
Format | Picture, click the Layout tab. Click the Advanced button.
Check the "Lock anchor" option and click OK twice.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Anna Kezer" wrote in message
...
Thank you for your answers!

Stefan, here is how my text looks with NonPrint Chars (better in
monospaced
font as well):

2.- text2 text2 text2 text3 text3 text3
text2 text2 text2 text3 text3.¶
text2 text2.¶ 4.- text4 text4 text4
3.- ---Column Break-- text4 text4.¶

And whatever I do, I still can't make '3.' to join the 'text3' in
the second
column - besides pushing it up with 'square' wrapping of the
picture.

To be technically precise, this particular behaviour appears only
when
there is a picture on the page. If I insert a column break with no
picutre
object in the page, Word keeps the number in the correct column.
But
as soon
as I add a picture, the problem above occurs. If a colum break is
inserted
with a picutre already on the page, it would again separate
correctly - but
only until pictire is moved or an element i added to it. This
happens
regardless of the wrapping format of the picture. Typically, I use
"behind
the text" wrapping which should have eliminated any interaction of
a
picture
object with the text.

....

Actually, with NonPrintChars being on, I just found the answer:
the
problem
is in the picture's anchor. When the picture is just inserted or
the
column
break just created, the anchor is assigned to the end of the last
paragraph
in the second column. However, any change to the page leads to
immeadiate
reassignment of the anchor to the end of the first column, which
pulls the
number from the second column back to the end of the first...

Any suggestion how can I stop Word from helping me with this
automatic
reassignment?!

Anna


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

When you add a column break in a text paragraph, the text after
the
break is moved to the next column (as expected). Also, text
added
before the column break will never flow across the break; that
way,
the two "parts" of text are separated.

However, the text after the break will not have its own bullet
(or
numbering) formatting; that way, the "split" paragraph is still
a
single paragraph.

You would have to separate the paragraph from the column break.
This
will be easier to do if you press the ¶ button so that Word
displays
nonprinting characters. You will now see, among other things, ¶
symbols which represents paragraph marks. (For more, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/NonPrintChars.htm.) Place
the
cursor at the end of the text in the first column, just before
the
break. Press Enter. Copy the text that belongs to the former
bullet
(number) into that paragraph.

With nonprinting characters displayed, you would then see the
following:

- Bulleted item - Another bulleted item¶
More text here.¶ More text follows here.
column break - A bulleted item again¶

Note: You will have to look at this message in a monospaced
font,
such
as Courier New, if you want the example above to look correctly.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Anna Kezer" wrote in message
...
I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a
column
break into a
bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at
the
end of the
first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to
join
the bullet
(number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a
square layout
(basically, to manually push away the bullet).

I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous
bullet
and at the
beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column -
the

same
problem.

The orphan control is on.

Any suggestions?

[Anna Kezer]

Thank you, Stefan!

Locking the anchor did the trick - now I can move the picture object around
for better positioning in its space without affecting the bullets.

No, this is not a corrupt document - I did come across this issue before. It
is just that this time I have 70 pages of two column, often-bulleted text, so
it drove me to the point of complete despair..

Thanks again!


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

Another thing to check is whether the issue can be reproduced in a new
document. If not, the problem document might be corrupt. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/apperrors/CorruptDoc.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
This is an odd issue; I don't recall ever hearing about it before.

If you want to stop the anchor from moving, try locking it. First
move
it by dragging it to the desired paragraph. Then lock the anchor: In
Format | Picture, click the Layout tab. Click the Advanced button.
Check the "Lock anchor" option and click OK twice.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Anna Kezer" wrote in message
...
Thank you for your answers!

Stefan, here is how my text looks with NonPrint Chars (better in
monospaced
font as well):

2.- text2 text2 text2 text3 text3 text3
text2 text2 text2 text3 text3.¶
text2 text2.¶ 4.- text4 text4 text4
3.- ---Column Break-- text4 text4.¶

And whatever I do, I still can't make '3.' to join the 'text3' in
the second
column - besides pushing it up with 'square' wrapping of the
picture.

To be technically precise, this particular behaviour appears only
when
there is a picture on the page. If I insert a column break with no
picutre
object in the page, Word keeps the number in the correct column.
But
as soon
as I add a picture, the problem above occurs. If a colum break is
inserted
with a picutre already on the page, it would again separate
correctly - but
only until pictire is moved or an element i added to it. This
happens
regardless of the wrapping format of the picture. Typically, I use
"behind
the text" wrapping which should have eliminated any interaction of
a
picture
object with the text.

....

Actually, with NonPrintChars being on, I just found the answer:
the
problem
is in the picture's anchor. When the picture is just inserted or
the
column
break just created, the anchor is assigned to the end of the last
paragraph
in the second column. However, any change to the page leads to
immeadiate
reassignment of the anchor to the end of the first column, which
pulls the
number from the second column back to the end of the first...

Any suggestion how can I stop Word from helping me with this
automatic
reassignment?!

Anna


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

When you add a column break in a text paragraph, the text after
the
break is moved to the next column (as expected). Also, text
added
before the column break will never flow across the break; that
way,
the two "parts" of text are separated.

However, the text after the break will not have its own bullet
(or
numbering) formatting; that way, the "split" paragraph is still
a
single paragraph.

You would have to separate the paragraph from the column break.
This
will be easier to do if you press the ¶ button so that Word
displays
nonprinting characters. You will now see, among other things, ¶
symbols which represents paragraph marks. (For more, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/NonPrintChars.htm.) Place
the
cursor at the end of the text in the first column, just before
the
break. Press Enter. Copy the text that belongs to the former
bullet
(number) into that paragraph.

With nonprinting characters displayed, you would then see the
following:

- Bulleted item - Another bulleted item¶
More text here.¶ More text follows here.
column break - A bulleted item again¶

Note: You will have to look at this message in a monospaced
font,
such
as Courier New, if you want the example above to look correctly.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Anna Kezer" wrote in message
...
I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a
column
break into a
bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet (number) at
the
end of the
first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way to
join
the bullet
(number) with its text is to move close to it a picture with a
square layout
(basically, to manually push away the bullet).

I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous
bullet
and at the
beginning of the bullet that should go to the next column -
the

same
problem.

The orphan control is on.

Any suggestions?

[Stefan Blom]

You are welcome, and thank you for the feedback.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Anna Kezer" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Stefan!

Locking the anchor did the trick - now I can move the picture object
around
for better positioning in its space without affecting the bullets.

No, this is not a corrupt document - I did come across this issue
before. It
is just that this time I have 70 pages of two column, often-bulleted
text, so
it drove me to the point of complete despair..

Thanks again!


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

Another thing to check is whether the issue can be reproduced in a
new
document. If not, the problem document might be corrupt. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/apperrors/CorruptDoc.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
This is an odd issue; I don't recall ever hearing about it
before.

If you want to stop the anchor from moving, try locking it.
First
move
it by dragging it to the desired paragraph. Then lock the
anchor: In
Format | Picture, click the Layout tab. Click the Advanced
button.
Check the "Lock anchor" option and click OK twice.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Anna Kezer" wrote in message
...
Thank you for your answers!

Stefan, here is how my text looks with NonPrint Chars (better
in
monospaced
font as well):

2.- text2 text2 text2 text3 text3 text3
text2 text2 text2 text3 text3.¶
text2 text2.¶ 4.- text4 text4 text4
3.- ---Column Break-- text4 text4.¶

And whatever I do, I still can't make '3.' to join the 'text3'
in
the second
column - besides pushing it up with 'square' wrapping of the
picture.

To be technically precise, this particular behaviour appears
only
when
there is a picture on the page. If I insert a column break
with no
picutre
object in the page, Word keeps the number in the correct
column.
But
as soon
as I add a picture, the problem above occurs. If a colum
break is
inserted
with a picutre already on the page, it would again separate
correctly - but
only until pictire is moved or an element i added to it. This
happens
regardless of the wrapping format of the picture. Typically, I
use
"behind
the text" wrapping which should have eliminated any
interaction of
a
picture
object with the text.

....

Actually, with NonPrintChars being on, I just found the
answer:
the
problem
is in the picture's anchor. When the picture is just inserted
or
the
column
break just created, the anchor is assigned to the end of the
last
paragraph
in the second column. However, any change to the page leads to
immeadiate
reassignment of the anchor to the end of the first column,
which
pulls the
number from the second column back to the end of the first...


Any suggestion how can I stop Word from helping me with this
automatic
reassignment?!

Anna


"Stefan Blom" wrote:

When you add a column break in a text paragraph, the text
after
the
break is moved to the next column (as expected). Also, text
added
before the column break will never flow across the break;
that
way,
the two "parts" of text are separated.

However, the text after the break will not have its own
bullet
(or
numbering) formatting; that way, the "split" paragraph is
still
a
single paragraph.

You would have to separate the paragraph from the column
break.
This
will be easier to do if you press the ¶ button so that Word
displays
nonprinting characters. You will now see, among other
things, ¶
symbols which represents paragraph marks. (For more, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/formatting/NonPrintChars.htm.)
Place
the
cursor at the end of the text in the first column, just
before
the
break. Press Enter. Copy the text that belongs to the former
bullet
(number) into that paragraph.

With nonprinting characters displayed, you would then see
the
following:

- Bulleted item - Another bulleted item¶
More text here.¶ More text follows here.
column break - A bulleted item again¶

Note: You will have to look at this message in a monospaced
font,
such
as Courier New, if you want the example above to look
correctly.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Anna Kezer" wrote in message
...
I keep running into the following issue: when inserting a
column
break into a
bulleted (or numbered) text, Word keeps the bullet
(number) at
the
end of the
first column butmoves its text to the second. The only way
to
join
the bullet
(number) with its text is to move close to it a picture
with a
square layout
(basically, to manually push away the bullet).

I've tried inserting column break at the end of a previous
bullet
and at the
beginning of the bullet that should go to the next
column -
the

same
problem.

The orphan control is on.

Any suggestions?