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Mischievous Header/Footer when Section Break changes!
Please HELP!! I've tried all manner of devious tactics to fool Word but ...
I am developing a mulit-section template (I use Word XP) as follows: Section 1: Front cover. Header is a background logo as a watermark. Header and Footer = no selection Section 2: (Copyright and Acknowledgements). Section Start = Odd page. Header and Footer set to Same as Previous. (I want the background logo on *all* pages in both sections.) So far, so good. Section 3: This section starts with the Table of Contents. From this point on I *want* the headers to be different on odd/even pages. Section start = Odd page. Header and Footer set to Different Odd and Even. BUT - this is where the trouble starts - when I set the Different Odd and Even in this section it changes the settings in Sections 1 and 2. I have tried both This Section and This point forward. Same deal. (BTW, Section 3 starts with a Table of Contents that has roman numeral page numbering. I wouldn't normally have mentioned this here but I've just been reading the thread started by Steve Bateman and there was something "quirky" related to this for his problem.) Does anyone have any idea how to get around this? I've tried just about everything I can think of (including removing all the headers and starting over). Thanks a million in advance. Sharon |
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Mischievous Header/Footer when Section Break changes!
You're on the right track, but there's no need to 'fool' Word. It's designed
to do what you want. Set up your three sections as described. Go to section 3. For each header and footer: activate the header/footer, then clear the 'Same as previous' button on the Headers and Footers toolbar. Now you can format the headers and footers for sections 1 and 2, and for section 3, independently. "Sharon M." wrote in message ... Please HELP!! I've tried all manner of devious tactics to fool Word but ... I am developing a mulit-section template (I use Word XP) as follows: Section 1: Front cover. Header is a background logo as a watermark. Header and Footer = no selection Section 2: (Copyright and Acknowledgements). Section Start = Odd page. Header and Footer set to Same as Previous. (I want the background logo on *all* pages in both sections.) So far, so good. Section 3: This section starts with the Table of Contents. From this point on I *want* the headers to be different on odd/even pages. Section start = Odd page. Header and Footer set to Different Odd and Even. BUT - this is where the trouble starts - when I set the Different Odd and Even in this section it changes the settings in Sections 1 and 2. I have tried both This Section and This point forward. Same deal. (BTW, Section 3 starts with a Table of Contents that has roman numeral page numbering. I wouldn't normally have mentioned this here but I've just been reading the thread started by Steve Bateman and there was something "quirky" related to this for his problem.) Does anyone have any idea how to get around this? I've tried just about everything I can think of (including removing all the headers and starting over). Thanks a million in advance. Sharon |
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Mischievous Header/Footer when Section Break changes!
Hi Jezebel,
That's exactly what I've done ... several times. BUT, each time section 3 changes the settings for sections 1 and 2. I've started from scratch (more than once). There's no logic and I just don't understand why????? Thanks, S. "Jezebel" wrote: You're on the right track, but there's no need to 'fool' Word. It's designed to do what you want. Set up your three sections as described. Go to section 3. For each header and footer: activate the header/footer, then clear the 'Same as previous' button on the Headers and Footers toolbar. Now you can format the headers and footers for sections 1 and 2, and for section 3, independently. "Sharon M." wrote in message ... Please HELP!! I've tried all manner of devious tactics to fool Word but ... I am developing a mulit-section template (I use Word XP) as follows: Section 1: Front cover. Header is a background logo as a watermark. Header and Footer = no selection Section 2: (Copyright and Acknowledgements). Section Start = Odd page. Header and Footer set to Same as Previous. (I want the background logo on *all* pages in both sections.) So far, so good. Section 3: This section starts with the Table of Contents. From this point on I *want* the headers to be different on odd/even pages. Section start = Odd page. Header and Footer set to Different Odd and Even. BUT - this is where the trouble starts - when I set the Different Odd and Even in this section it changes the settings in Sections 1 and 2. I have tried both This Section and This point forward. Same deal. (BTW, Section 3 starts with a Table of Contents that has roman numeral page numbering. I wouldn't normally have mentioned this here but I've just been reading the thread started by Steve Bateman and there was something "quirky" related to this for his problem.) Does anyone have any idea how to get around this? I've tried just about everything I can think of (including removing all the headers and starting over). Thanks a million in advance. Sharon |
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Mischievous Header/Footer when Section Break changes!
Sorry, there's no fooling Word on this one - different odd and even always
applies to the whole document. You will have to copy and paste the headers and footers in Section 1 and 2 so the same stuff appears on both odd and even. -- Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org "Sharon M." wrote in message news Hi Jezebel, That's exactly what I've done ... several times. BUT, each time section 3 changes the settings for sections 1 and 2. I've started from scratch (more than once). There's no logic and I just don't understand why????? Thanks, S. "Jezebel" wrote: You're on the right track, but there's no need to 'fool' Word. It's designed to do what you want. Set up your three sections as described. Go to section 3. For each header and footer: activate the header/footer, then clear the 'Same as previous' button on the Headers and Footers toolbar. Now you can format the headers and footers for sections 1 and 2, and for section 3, independently. "Sharon M." wrote in message ... Please HELP!! I've tried all manner of devious tactics to fool Word but ... I am developing a mulit-section template (I use Word XP) as follows: Section 1: Front cover. Header is a background logo as a watermark. Header and Footer = no selection Section 2: (Copyright and Acknowledgements). Section Start = Odd page. Header and Footer set to Same as Previous. (I want the background logo on *all* pages in both sections.) So far, so good. Section 3: This section starts with the Table of Contents. From this point on I *want* the headers to be different on odd/even pages. Section start = Odd page. Header and Footer set to Different Odd and Even. BUT - this is where the trouble starts - when I set the Different Odd and Even in this section it changes the settings in Sections 1 and 2. I have tried both This Section and This point forward. Same deal. (BTW, Section 3 starts with a Table of Contents that has roman numeral page numbering. I wouldn't normally have mentioned this here but I've just been reading the thread started by Steve Bateman and there was something "quirky" related to this for his problem.) Does anyone have any idea how to get around this? I've tried just about everything I can think of (including removing all the headers and starting over). Thanks a million in advance. Sharon |
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Mischievous Header/Footer when Section Break changes!
As Margaret says, this is the "gotcha" here. Although you can enable
"Different first page" for individual sections, "Different odd and even" always applies to the entire document. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Margaret Aldis" wrote in message ... Sorry, there's no fooling Word on this one - different odd and even always applies to the whole document. You will have to copy and paste the headers and footers in Section 1 and 2 so the same stuff appears on both odd and even. -- Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org "Sharon M." wrote in message news Hi Jezebel, That's exactly what I've done ... several times. BUT, each time section 3 changes the settings for sections 1 and 2. I've started from scratch (more than once). There's no logic and I just don't understand why????? Thanks, S. "Jezebel" wrote: You're on the right track, but there's no need to 'fool' Word. It's designed to do what you want. Set up your three sections as described. Go to section 3. For each header and footer: activate the header/footer, then clear the 'Same as previous' button on the Headers and Footers toolbar. Now you can format the headers and footers for sections 1 and 2, and for section 3, independently. "Sharon M." wrote in message ... Please HELP!! I've tried all manner of devious tactics to fool Word but ... I am developing a mulit-section template (I use Word XP) as follows: Section 1: Front cover. Header is a background logo as a watermark. Header and Footer = no selection Section 2: (Copyright and Acknowledgements). Section Start = Odd page. Header and Footer set to Same as Previous. (I want the background logo on *all* pages in both sections.) So far, so good. Section 3: This section starts with the Table of Contents. From this point on I *want* the headers to be different on odd/even pages. Section start = Odd page. Header and Footer set to Different Odd and Even. BUT - this is where the trouble starts - when I set the Different Odd and Even in this section it changes the settings in Sections 1 and 2. I have tried both This Section and This point forward. Same deal. (BTW, Section 3 starts with a Table of Contents that has roman numeral page numbering. I wouldn't normally have mentioned this here but I've just been reading the thread started by Steve Bateman and there was something "quirky" related to this for his problem.) Does anyone have any idea how to get around this? I've tried just about everything I can think of (including removing all the headers and starting over). Thanks a million in advance. Sharon |
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Mischievous Header/Footer when Section Break changes!
Hi Suzanne, Hi Margaret,
Thanks! Not the answer I wanted but the one I needed!! I played for *hours* trying to beat the logic of the backwards operation. I still don't understand *why* something should apply to the whole document when "This Section" or "This Point Forward" is selected. Does it also strike you as illogical? Anyhow, at least now I know it's not me, so thanks again (also to Jezebel for responding quickly even though I had already tried everything s/he suggested). All the best, Sharon "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: As Margaret says, this is the "gotcha" here. Although you can enable "Different first page" for individual sections, "Different odd and even" always applies to the entire document. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Margaret Aldis" wrote in message ... Sorry, there's no fooling Word on this one - different odd and even always applies to the whole document. You will have to copy and paste the headers and footers in Section 1 and 2 so the same stuff appears on both odd and even. -- Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org "Sharon M." wrote in message news Hi Jezebel, That's exactly what I've done ... several times. BUT, each time section 3 changes the settings for sections 1 and 2. I've started from scratch (more than once). There's no logic and I just don't understand why????? Thanks, S. "Jezebel" wrote: You're on the right track, but there's no need to 'fool' Word. It's designed to do what you want. Set up your three sections as described. Go to section 3. For each header and footer: activate the header/footer, then clear the 'Same as previous' button on the Headers and Footers toolbar. Now you can format the headers and footers for sections 1 and 2, and for section 3, independently. "Sharon M." wrote in message ... Please HELP!! I've tried all manner of devious tactics to fool Word but ... I am developing a mulit-section template (I use Word XP) as follows: Section 1: Front cover. Header is a background logo as a watermark. Header and Footer = no selection Section 2: (Copyright and Acknowledgements). Section Start = Odd page. Header and Footer set to Same as Previous. (I want the background logo on *all* pages in both sections.) So far, so good. Section 3: This section starts with the Table of Contents. From this point on I *want* the headers to be different on odd/even pages. Section start = Odd page. Header and Footer set to Different Odd and Even. BUT - this is where the trouble starts - when I set the Different Odd and Even in this section it changes the settings in Sections 1 and 2. I have tried both This Section and This point forward. Same deal. (BTW, Section 3 starts with a Table of Contents that has roman numeral page numbering. I wouldn't normally have mentioned this here but I've just been reading the thread started by Steve Bateman and there was something "quirky" related to this for his problem.) Does anyone have any idea how to get around this? I've tried just about everything I can think of (including removing all the headers and starting over). Thanks a million in advance. Sharon |
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