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Before and After Paragraph Spacing
For my government work I have been trying to work out spacing
precisely. I am correct in the following: If A and B are paragraphs, occurring sequentially, then the space between the bottom of A (to descender) and the top of B (ascender) is The leading of A + the maximum of (A.After and B.Before Spacing) In other words the before and after spacing are not added together, the spacing is based upon the larger of the two values. |
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Before and After Paragraph Spacing
If I understand you correctly...
Go to Format Paragraph dialog and clear the option 'Don't add space to paragraphs of the same style'. That options inhibits space accumulation for paragraphs using the same style so that if Space after is 18pt and Space before is 12pt, the space presented is only 18pt (the larger of the two numbers) and not 30pt as expected. Note that when you come to sort out the space at the top of the pages, in the Compatibility dialog there are several 'Suppress additional space' options that you may find useful. -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP wrote in message ... For my government work I have been trying to work out spacing precisely. I am correct in the following: If A and B are paragraphs, occurring sequentially, then the space between the bottom of A (to descender) and the top of B (ascender) is The leading of A + the maximum of (A.After and B.Before Spacing) In other words the before and after spacing are not added together, the spacing is based upon the larger of the two values. |
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Also, if you want Word to add Spacing After and Spacing Before together when
they "meet" (as opposed to choosing the larger of the two values), select the "Don't use HTML paragraph auto spacing" Compatibility Option. To see the compatibility options in Word 2007: Click the Office button, and then click Word Options. In the Advanced category, click to expand the "Layout Options" (at the bottom). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... If I understand you correctly... Go to Format Paragraph dialog and clear the option 'Don't add space to paragraphs of the same style'. That options inhibits space accumulation for paragraphs using the same style so that if Space after is 18pt and Space before is 12pt, the space presented is only 18pt (the larger of the two numbers) and not 30pt as expected. Note that when you come to sort out the space at the top of the pages, in the Compatibility dialog there are several 'Suppress additional space' options that you may find useful. -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP wrote in message ... For my government work I have been trying to work out spacing precisely. I am correct in the following: If A and B are paragraphs, occurring sequentially, then the space between the bottom of A (to descender) and the top of B (ascender) is The leading of A + the maximum of (A.After and B.Before Spacing) In other words the before and after spacing are not added together, the spacing is based upon the larger of the two values. |
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On Dec 2, 8:00*am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote: Also, if you want Word to add Spacing After and Spacing Before together when they "meet" (as opposed to choosing the larger of the two values), select the "Don't use HTML paragraph auto spacing" Compatibility Option. To see the compatibility options in Word 2007: Click the Office button, and then click Word Options. In the Advanced category, click to expand the "Layout Options" (at the bottom). Apparently the spacing options are convoluted. In my tests I was using a combination of heading n and body text styles. The Word Don't use HTML paragraph... option was unchecked as the default. The Paragraph option "Don't add space ..." was unchecked. And I was getting the behavior I described above. The reason I was asking, here was I read in a book that the above and below spacing gets added together.-- something I was not seeing. From the kindly supplied information here, this appears to only occur when the "Don't use HTML paragraph .." option is selected. Any idea which is the better method in practice to use? My gut tells me that adding the spaces together is a more predictable method, |
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For which version of Word was the book written? Older versions of Word
always added the values together. I don't remember when the behavior changed, maybe in Word 2000. What is better is largely a matter of taste, of course. If you use Spacing After for, say, Heading 1 paragraphs and you don't want any extra spacing if the first paragraph after the heading is another heading, say Heading 2 with Spacing Above, then obviously it is convenient that the values won't be added together. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP wrote in message ... On Dec 2, 8:00 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote: Also, if you want Word to add Spacing After and Spacing Before together when they "meet" (as opposed to choosing the larger of the two values), select the "Don't use HTML paragraph auto spacing" Compatibility Option. To see the compatibility options in Word 2007: Click the Office button, and then click Word Options. In the Advanced category, click to expand the "Layout Options" (at the bottom). Apparently the spacing options are convoluted. In my tests I was using a combination of heading n and body text styles. The Word Don't use HTML paragraph... option was unchecked as the default. The Paragraph option "Don't add space ..." was unchecked. And I was getting the behavior I described above. The reason I was asking, here was I read in a book that the above and below spacing gets added together.-- something I was not seeing. From the kindly supplied information here, this appears to only occur when the "Don't use HTML paragraph .." option is selected. Any idea which is the better method in practice to use? My gut tells me that adding the spaces together is a more predictable method, |
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It did originate in Word 2000, when many other Web-centric features were
introduced. I tend to go for the predictable myself, and always keep "Don't use HTML..." checked. I find that Ctrl+0 on a given heading will usually remove enough Space Before to do the trick. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... For which version of Word was the book written? Older versions of Word always added the values together. I don't remember when the behavior changed, maybe in Word 2000. What is better is largely a matter of taste, of course. If you use Spacing After for, say, Heading 1 paragraphs and you don't want any extra spacing if the first paragraph after the heading is another heading, say Heading 2 with Spacing Above, then obviously it is convenient that the values won't be added together. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP wrote in message ... On Dec 2, 8:00 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote: Also, if you want Word to add Spacing After and Spacing Before together when they "meet" (as opposed to choosing the larger of the two values), select the "Don't use HTML paragraph auto spacing" Compatibility Option. To see the compatibility options in Word 2007: Click the Office button, and then click Word Options. In the Advanced category, click to expand the "Layout Options" (at the bottom). Apparently the spacing options are convoluted. In my tests I was using a combination of heading n and body text styles. The Word Don't use HTML paragraph... option was unchecked as the default. The Paragraph option "Don't add space ..." was unchecked. And I was getting the behavior I described above. The reason I was asking, here was I read in a book that the above and below spacing gets added together.-- something I was not seeing. From the kindly supplied information here, this appears to only occur when the "Don't use HTML paragraph .." option is selected. Any idea which is the better method in practice to use? My gut tells me that adding the spaces together is a more predictable method, |
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On Dec 2, 5:47*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
It did originate in Word 2000, when many other Web-centric features were introduced. I tend to go for the predictable myself, and always keep "Don't use HTML..." checked. I find that Ctrl+0 on a given heading will usually remove enough Space Before to do the trick. If I had my way to do this kind of exact formatting, I'd have them just do styles in Word and import into Indesign. Something that might have been possible of Adobe's marketing folks were....err..... at all competent. Our's is not to wonder why..... |
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