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Word 2007
Using XP Pro service pack 3 - now Word 2003.
I read many discouraging reviews about Word 2007. I want to know if it makes editing end notes easier than 2003. Nevertheless, does this group think the new version is worth the money and the time to learn it? -- Wade A |
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Word 2007
It doesn't handle endnotes any differently; what do you find
troublesome about them? What if you enter your notes as footnotes, and convert them to endnotes after you're finished? I upgraded to 2007 for two reasons. Primarily, it handles many more scripts under Unicode than 2003 did (Unicode 5 rather than Unicode 2), but that's a concern for very, very few users. Second, it promised a bibliography tool that could do (some of?) the things EndNote does. It proved to be a huge disappointment. The new interface is definitely harder to use than the old one (more clicks, it seems, to get to almost every command that you don't happen to know the keyboard shortcut for), but the solution provided -- the Quick Access Toolbar -- is an excellent alternative: you put on it the 20 or 30 commands you actually use, and they're always right in front of you. (The new interface also insists on trying to do everything for you, wasting vast amounts of space on "Galleries" that no one in their right mind would want their documents to look like.) On Oct 8, 12:28*pm, Wade A wrote: Using XP Pro service pack 3 - now Word 2003. I read many discouraging reviews about Word 2007. *I want to know if it makes editing end notes easier than 2003. *Nevertheless, does this group think the new version is worth the money and the time to learn it? -- Wade A |
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word 2003 is very picky about eliminating spaces between end notes.
Sometimes it will, sometines it wont. And the choices on the end note dialogue box is limited. I have edited them within the text of the note iself, but still, taking out the space between them is difficult, or impossible. -- Wade A "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: It doesn't handle endnotes any differently; what do you find troublesome about them? What if you enter your notes as footnotes, and convert them to endnotes after you're finished? I upgraded to 2007 for two reasons. Primarily, it handles many more scripts under Unicode than 2003 did (Unicode 5 rather than Unicode 2), but that's a concern for very, very few users. Second, it promised a bibliography tool that could do (some of?) the things EndNote does. It proved to be a huge disappointment. The new interface is definitely harder to use than the old one (more clicks, it seems, to get to almost every command that you don't happen to know the keyboard shortcut for), but the solution provided -- the Quick Access Toolbar -- is an excellent alternative: you put on it the 20 or 30 commands you actually use, and they're always right in front of you. (The new interface also insists on trying to do everything for you, wasting vast amounts of space on "Galleries" that no one in their right mind would want their documents to look like.) On Oct 8, 12:28 pm, Wade A wrote: Using XP Pro service pack 3 - now Word 2003. I read many discouraging reviews about Word 2007. I want to know if it makes editing end notes easier than 2003. Nevertheless, does this group think the new version is worth the money and the time to learn it? -- Wade A |
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Word 2007
I've almost never used endnotes, and this problem doesn't occur with
footnotes, so have you looked at the Endnote Text style to remove any Space Before or Space After that might be included as the default? (To view the style, go to the Styles & Formatting panel, Ctrl-Alt- Shift-S, click Options at the lower right, and in the first dropdown choose All Styles. Find Endnote Text, right-click on it and choose Modify Format Paragraph -- where I find that it comes with Space After of 10 pt. Change it to 0. You'll probably want to go back to showing Styles In Use so you don't see the dozens of built-in styles you're not using.) On Oct 8, 6:21*pm, Wade A wrote: word 2003 is very picky about eliminating spaces between end notes. * Sometimes it will, sometines it wont. And the choices on the end note dialogue box is limited. I have edited them within the text of the note iself, but still, taking out the space between them is difficult, or impossible. -- Wade A "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: It doesn't handle endnotes any differently; what do you find troublesome about them? What if you enter your notes as footnotes, and convert them to endnotes after you're finished? I upgraded to 2007 for two reasons. Primarily, it handles many more scripts under Unicode than 2003 did (Unicode 5 rather than Unicode 2), but that's a concern for very, very few users. Second, it promised a bibliography tool that could do (some of?) the things EndNote does. It proved to be a huge disappointment. The new interface is definitely harder to use than the old one (more clicks, it seems, to get to almost every command that you don't happen to know the keyboard shortcut for), but the solution provided -- the Quick Access Toolbar -- is an excellent alternative: you put on it the 20 or 30 commands you actually use, and they're always right in front of you. (The new interface also insists on trying to do everything for you, wasting vast amounts of space on "Galleries" that no one in their right mind would want their documents to look like.) On Oct 8, 12:28 pm, Wade A wrote: Using XP Pro service pack 3 - now Word 2003. I read many discouraging reviews about Word 2007. *I want to know if it makes editing end notes easier than 2003. *Nevertheless, does this group think the new version is worth the money and the time to learn it? -- Wade A- |
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In Word 2003, "All styles" likely won't include Endnote Text (in Word 2003
"All styles" doesn't really mean *all* styles), so it will be necessary to select Custom and click Styles... to get at the Styles dialog and select Endnote Text. Alternatively, with luck, Style... will be on the right-click context menu in an Endnote Text paragraph, which provides direct access. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... I've almost never used endnotes, and this problem doesn't occur with footnotes, so have you looked at the Endnote Text style to remove any Space Before or Space After that might be included as the default? (To view the style, go to the Styles & Formatting panel, Ctrl-Alt- Shift-S, click Options at the lower right, and in the first dropdown choose All Styles. Find Endnote Text, right-click on it and choose Modify Format Paragraph -- where I find that it comes with Space After of 10 pt. Change it to 0. You'll probably want to go back to showing Styles In Use so you don't see the dozens of built-in styles you're not using.) On Oct 8, 6:21 pm, Wade A wrote: word 2003 is very picky about eliminating spaces between end notes. Sometimes it will, sometines it wont. And the choices on the end note dialogue box is limited. I have edited them within the text of the note iself, but still, taking out the space between them is difficult, or impossible. -- Wade A "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: It doesn't handle endnotes any differently; what do you find troublesome about them? What if you enter your notes as footnotes, and convert them to endnotes after you're finished? I upgraded to 2007 for two reasons. Primarily, it handles many more scripts under Unicode than 2003 did (Unicode 5 rather than Unicode 2), but that's a concern for very, very few users. Second, it promised a bibliography tool that could do (some of?) the things EndNote does. It proved to be a huge disappointment. The new interface is definitely harder to use than the old one (more clicks, it seems, to get to almost every command that you don't happen to know the keyboard shortcut for), but the solution provided -- the Quick Access Toolbar -- is an excellent alternative: you put on it the 20 or 30 commands you actually use, and they're always right in front of you. (The new interface also insists on trying to do everything for you, wasting vast amounts of space on "Galleries" that no one in their right mind would want their documents to look like.) On Oct 8, 12:28 pm, Wade A wrote: Using XP Pro service pack 3 - now Word 2003. I read many discouraging reviews about Word 2007. I want to know if it makes editing end notes easier than 2003. Nevertheless, does this group think the new version is worth the money and the time to learn it? -- Wade A- |
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(He asked how to make 2007 endnotes come out looking better than
2003's.) On Oct 8, 11:17*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: In Word 2003, "All styles" likely won't include Endnote Text (in Word 2003 "All styles" doesn't really mean *all* styles), so it will be necessary to select Custom and click Styles... to get at the Styles dialog and select Endnote Text. Alternatively, with luck, Style... will be on the right-click context menu in an Endnote Text paragraph, which provides direct access. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've almost never used endnotes, and this problem doesn't occur with footnotes, so have you looked at the Endnote Text style to remove any Space Before or Space After that might be included as the default? (To view the style, go to the Styles & Formatting panel, Ctrl-Alt- Shift-S, click Options at the lower right, and in the first dropdown choose All Styles. Find Endnote Text, right-click on it and choose Modify Format Paragraph -- where I find that it comes with Space After of 10 pt. Change it to 0. You'll probably want to go back to showing Styles In Use so you don't see the dozens of built-in styles you're not using.) On Oct 8, 6:21 pm, Wade A wrote: word 2003 is very picky about eliminating spaces between end notes. Sometimes it will, sometines it wont. And the choices on the end note dialogue box is limited. I have edited them within the text of the note iself, but still, taking out the space between them is difficult, or impossible. -- Wade A "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: It doesn't handle endnotes any differently; what do you find troublesome about them? What if you enter your notes as footnotes, and convert them to endnotes after you're finished? I upgraded to 2007 for two reasons. Primarily, it handles many more scripts under Unicode than 2003 did (Unicode 5 rather than Unicode 2), but that's a concern for very, very few users. Second, it promised a bibliography tool that could do (some of?) the things EndNote does. It proved to be a huge disappointment. The new interface is definitely harder to use than the old one (more clicks, it seems, to get to almost every command that you don't happen to know the keyboard shortcut for), but the solution provided -- the Quick Access Toolbar -- is an excellent alternative: you put on it the 20 or 30 commands you actually use, and they're always right in front of you. (The new interface also insists on trying to do everything for you, wasting vast amounts of space on "Galleries" that no one in their right mind would want their documents to look like.) On Oct 8, 12:28 pm, Wade A wrote: Using XP Pro service pack 3 - now Word 2003. I read many discouraging reviews about Word 2007. I want to know if it makes editing end notes easier than 2003. Nevertheless, does this group think the new version is worth the money and the time to learn it? -- Wade A-- |
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Word 2007
No, if you look at the original question, he was asking whether upgrading to
Word 2007 (which he has not yet done) would provide an improvement over Word 2003 in this regard. AFAICS, it will not, so any help should be directed toward helping him use Word 2003 effectively. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... (He asked how to make 2007 endnotes come out looking better than 2003's.) On Oct 8, 11:17 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: In Word 2003, "All styles" likely won't include Endnote Text (in Word 2003 "All styles" doesn't really mean *all* styles), so it will be necessary to select Custom and click Styles... to get at the Styles dialog and select Endnote Text. Alternatively, with luck, Style... will be on the right-click context menu in an Endnote Text paragraph, which provides direct access. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've almost never used endnotes, and this problem doesn't occur with footnotes, so have you looked at the Endnote Text style to remove any Space Before or Space After that might be included as the default? (To view the style, go to the Styles & Formatting panel, Ctrl-Alt- Shift-S, click Options at the lower right, and in the first dropdown choose All Styles. Find Endnote Text, right-click on it and choose Modify Format Paragraph -- where I find that it comes with Space After of 10 pt. Change it to 0. You'll probably want to go back to showing Styles In Use so you don't see the dozens of built-in styles you're not using.) On Oct 8, 6:21 pm, Wade A wrote: word 2003 is very picky about eliminating spaces between end notes. Sometimes it will, sometines it wont. And the choices on the end note dialogue box is limited. I have edited them within the text of the note iself, but still, taking out the space between them is difficult, or impossible. -- Wade A "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: It doesn't handle endnotes any differently; what do you find troublesome about them? What if you enter your notes as footnotes, and convert them to endnotes after you're finished? I upgraded to 2007 for two reasons. Primarily, it handles many more scripts under Unicode than 2003 did (Unicode 5 rather than Unicode 2), but that's a concern for very, very few users. Second, it promised a bibliography tool that could do (some of?) the things EndNote does. It proved to be a huge disappointment. The new interface is definitely harder to use than the old one (more clicks, it seems, to get to almost every command that you don't happen to know the keyboard shortcut for), but the solution provided -- the Quick Access Toolbar -- is an excellent alternative: you put on it the 20 or 30 commands you actually use, and they're always right in front of you. (The new interface also insists on trying to do everything for you, wasting vast amounts of space on "Galleries" that no one in their right mind would want their documents to look like.) On Oct 8, 12:28 pm, Wade A wrote: Using XP Pro service pack 3 - now Word 2003. I read many discouraging reviews about Word 2007. I want to know if it makes editing end notes easier than 2003. Nevertheless, does this group think the new version is worth the money and the time to learn it? -- Wade A-- |
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Thank you Peter and Susan. I'll check out your suggestions regarding styles
(which have always been difficult for me) and learn - learn. Wade A -- Wade A "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: No, if you look at the original question, he was asking whether upgrading to Word 2007 (which he has not yet done) would provide an improvement over Word 2003 in this regard. AFAICS, it will not, so any help should be directed toward helping him use Word 2003 effectively. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... (He asked how to make 2007 endnotes come out looking better than 2003's.) On Oct 8, 11:17 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: In Word 2003, "All styles" likely won't include Endnote Text (in Word 2003 "All styles" doesn't really mean *all* styles), so it will be necessary to select Custom and click Styles... to get at the Styles dialog and select Endnote Text. Alternatively, with luck, Style... will be on the right-click context menu in an Endnote Text paragraph, which provides direct access. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... I've almost never used endnotes, and this problem doesn't occur with footnotes, so have you looked at the Endnote Text style to remove any Space Before or Space After that might be included as the default? (To view the style, go to the Styles & Formatting panel, Ctrl-Alt- Shift-S, click Options at the lower right, and in the first dropdown choose All Styles. Find Endnote Text, right-click on it and choose Modify Format Paragraph -- where I find that it comes with Space After of 10 pt. Change it to 0. You'll probably want to go back to showing Styles In Use so you don't see the dozens of built-in styles you're not using.) On Oct 8, 6:21 pm, Wade A wrote: word 2003 is very picky about eliminating spaces between end notes. Sometimes it will, sometines it wont. And the choices on the end note dialogue box is limited. I have edited them within the text of the note iself, but still, taking out the space between them is difficult, or impossible. -- Wade A "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: It doesn't handle endnotes any differently; what do you find troublesome about them? What if you enter your notes as footnotes, and convert them to endnotes after you're finished? I upgraded to 2007 for two reasons. Primarily, it handles many more scripts under Unicode than 2003 did (Unicode 5 rather than Unicode 2), but that's a concern for very, very few users. Second, it promised a bibliography tool that could do (some of?) the things EndNote does. It proved to be a huge disappointment. The new interface is definitely harder to use than the old one (more clicks, it seems, to get to almost every command that you don't happen to know the keyboard shortcut for), but the solution provided -- the Quick Access Toolbar -- is an excellent alternative: you put on it the 20 or 30 commands you actually use, and they're always right in front of you. (The new interface also insists on trying to do everything for you, wasting vast amounts of space on "Galleries" that no one in their right mind would want their documents to look like.) On Oct 8, 12:28 pm, Wade A wrote: Using XP Pro service pack 3 - now Word 2003. I read many discouraging reviews about Word 2007. I want to know if it makes editing end notes easier than 2003. Nevertheless, does this group think the new version is worth the money and the time to learn it? -- Wade A-- |
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