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MS Word is a Rube Goldberg machine.
I write business documents. I don't write pretty party invitations or have pastel backgrounds in my docs. I can program in 2 languages plus VBA, and I'm a tax lawyer. Complex I know. Nevertheless, I spend half of my time in Word mucking with formatting instead of drafting. My employees are less skilled, and even after impelmenting the work arounds posted here; they waste more time formatting than in doing other document processing tasks. Word is costing me big bucks in lost productivity. And it's not just me. No one that I know is happy with Word. Does anyone know of another product that does numbering, doesn't try to make me design "pretty"; and lets "not so technical" employees get my work done? signed HAD IT UP TO HERE |
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...hmm
Thank you for the reply, but I think you might have been a little sarcastic. The first thing Works displays is "Brochure" and "Party Invitation" . "Business" means headers, footers, and citations. Words does have a lot of features but it tries to be something to everyone. For a multi-level heading serious document, it is too clumsy, even in the 2008 iteration. We are going to make a serious effort to find some that "works", pun intended, including WP. Thanks Don Lowrey "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: Microsoft Works 9 http://www.microsoft.com/products/works/default.mspx "HAD IT UP TO HERE" HAD IT UP TO wrote in message ... MS Word is a Rube Goldberg machine. I write business documents. I don't write pretty party invitations or have pastel backgrounds in my docs. I can program in 2 languages plus VBA, and I'm a tax lawyer. Complex I know. Nevertheless, I spend half of my time in Word mucking with formatting instead of drafting. My employees are less skilled, and even after impelmenting the work arounds posted here; they waste more time formatting than in doing other document processing tasks. Word is costing me big bucks in lost productivity. And it's not just me. No one that I know is happy with Word. Does anyone know of another product that does numbering, doesn't try to make me design "pretty"; and lets "not so technical" employees get my work done? signed HAD IT UP TO HERE |
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Hi Don,
Perhaps if you & your staff learned how to use Word correctly, you'd have fewer productivity issues - indeed you might find productivity increasing. Given your work situation, the proper implementation of appropriately-formatted templates for the various kinds of documents you need, plus training in how to use Styles, Autotext and Word's other productivity features, would be a great boon. -- Cheers macropod [MVP - Microsoft Word] "HAD IT UP TO HERE" wrote in message ... ..hmm Thank you for the reply, but I think you might have been a little sarcastic. The first thing Works displays is "Brochure" and "Party Invitation" . "Business" means headers, footers, and citations. Words does have a lot of features but it tries to be something to everyone. For a multi-level heading serious document, it is too clumsy, even in the 2008 iteration. We are going to make a serious effort to find some that "works", pun intended, including WP. Thanks Don Lowrey "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: Microsoft Works 9 http://www.microsoft.com/products/works/default.mspx "HAD IT UP TO HERE" HAD IT UP TO wrote in message ... MS Word is a Rube Goldberg machine. I write business documents. I don't write pretty party invitations or have pastel backgrounds in my docs. I can program in 2 languages plus VBA, and I'm a tax lawyer. Complex I know. Nevertheless, I spend half of my time in Word mucking with formatting instead of drafting. My employees are less skilled, and even after impelmenting the work arounds posted here; they waste more time formatting than in doing other document processing tasks. Word is costing me big bucks in lost productivity. And it's not just me. No one that I know is happy with Word. Does anyone know of another product that does numbering, doesn't try to make me design "pretty"; and lets "not so technical" employees get my work done? signed HAD IT UP TO HERE |
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I'm sure you are correct, we should learn how to use Word.
Just for fun, try an experiment. Mention Word, numbering and complex document to any grad student or working professional who gets paid based on work product output. Will you get a smile, or a scowl? -Cheers "macropod" wrote: Hi Don, Perhaps if you & your staff learned how to use Word correctly, you'd have fewer productivity issues - indeed you might find productivity increasing. Given your work situation, the proper implementation of appropriately-formatted templates for the various kinds of documents you need, plus training in how to use Styles, Autotext and Word's other productivity features, would be a great boon. -- Cheers macropod [MVP - Microsoft Word] "HAD IT UP TO HERE" wrote in message ... ..hmm Thank you for the reply, but I think you might have been a little sarcastic. The first thing Works displays is "Brochure" and "Party Invitation" . "Business" means headers, footers, and citations. Words does have a lot of features but it tries to be something to everyone. For a multi-level heading serious document, it is too clumsy, even in the 2008 iteration. We are going to make a serious effort to find some that "works", pun intended, including WP. Thanks Don Lowrey "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: Microsoft Works 9 http://www.microsoft.com/products/works/default.mspx "HAD IT UP TO HERE" HAD IT UP TO wrote in message ... MS Word is a Rube Goldberg machine. I write business documents. I don't write pretty party invitations or have pastel backgrounds in my docs. I can program in 2 languages plus VBA, and I'm a tax lawyer. Complex I know. Nevertheless, I spend half of my time in Word mucking with formatting instead of drafting. My employees are less skilled, and even after impelmenting the work arounds posted here; they waste more time formatting than in doing other document processing tasks. Word is costing me big bucks in lost productivity. And it's not just me. No one that I know is happy with Word. Does anyone know of another product that does numbering, doesn't try to make me design "pretty"; and lets "not so technical" employees get my work done? signed HAD IT UP TO HERE |
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Don , you are correct, I tend to get a scowl.... but then a smile after about
1/2hour me showing them the simple ways of getting Word under control. I also do this on a paid basis but that lasts longer than 1/2 hour! ;-) Maybe some training for you and your staff by a reputable trainier will pay dividends in productivity and staff morale. All the best DeanH "HAD IT UP TO HERE" wrote: I'm sure you are correct, we should learn how to use Word. Just for fun, try an experiment. Mention Word, numbering and complex document to any grad student or working professional who gets paid based on work product output. Will you get a smile, or a scowl? -Cheers "macropod" wrote: Hi Don, Perhaps if you & your staff learned how to use Word correctly, you'd have fewer productivity issues - indeed you might find productivity increasing. Given your work situation, the proper implementation of appropriately-formatted templates for the various kinds of documents you need, plus training in how to use Styles, Autotext and Word's other productivity features, would be a great boon. -- Cheers macropod [MVP - Microsoft Word] "HAD IT UP TO HERE" wrote in message ... ..hmm Thank you for the reply, but I think you might have been a little sarcastic. The first thing Works displays is "Brochure" and "Party Invitation" . "Business" means headers, footers, and citations. Words does have a lot of features but it tries to be something to everyone. For a multi-level heading serious document, it is too clumsy, even in the 2008 iteration. We are going to make a serious effort to find some that "works", pun intended, including WP. Thanks Don Lowrey "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: Microsoft Works 9 http://www.microsoft.com/products/works/default.mspx "HAD IT UP TO HERE" HAD IT UP TO wrote in message ... MS Word is a Rube Goldberg machine. I write business documents. I don't write pretty party invitations or have pastel backgrounds in my docs. I can program in 2 languages plus VBA, and I'm a tax lawyer. Complex I know. Nevertheless, I spend half of my time in Word mucking with formatting instead of drafting. My employees are less skilled, and even after impelmenting the work arounds posted here; they waste more time formatting than in doing other document processing tasks. Word is costing me big bucks in lost productivity. And it's not just me. No one that I know is happy with Word. Does anyone know of another product that does numbering, doesn't try to make me design "pretty"; and lets "not so technical" employees get my work done? signed HAD IT UP TO HERE |
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Would you let your staff drive your car without any driver training? Would
you let them loose on tax law without any training? You cannot possibly hope to get the best from a complex piece of software without learning how to drive it. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org HAD IT UP TO HERE wrote: I'm sure you are correct, we should learn how to use Word. Just for fun, try an experiment. Mention Word, numbering and complex document to any grad student or working professional who gets paid based on work product output. Will you get a smile, or a scowl? -Cheers "macropod" wrote: Hi Don, Perhaps if you & your staff learned how to use Word correctly, you'd have fewer productivity issues - indeed you might find productivity increasing. Given your work situation, the proper implementation of appropriately-formatted templates for the various kinds of documents you need, plus training in how to use Styles, Autotext and Word's other productivity features, would be a great boon. -- Cheers macropod [MVP - Microsoft Word] "HAD IT UP TO HERE" wrote in message ... ..hmm Thank you for the reply, but I think you might have been a little sarcastic. The first thing Works displays is "Brochure" and "Party Invitation" . "Business" means headers, footers, and citations. Words does have a lot of features but it tries to be something to everyone. For a multi-level heading serious document, it is too clumsy, even in the 2008 iteration. We are going to make a serious effort to find some that "works", pun intended, including WP. Thanks Don Lowrey "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: Microsoft Works 9 http://www.microsoft.com/products/works/default.mspx "HAD IT UP TO HERE" HAD IT UP TO wrote in message ... MS Word is a Rube Goldberg machine. I write business documents. I don't write pretty party invitations or have pastel backgrounds in my docs. I can program in 2 languages plus VBA, and I'm a tax lawyer. Complex I know. Nevertheless, I spend half of my time in Word mucking with formatting instead of drafting. My employees are less skilled, and even after impelmenting the work arounds posted here; they waste more time formatting than in doing other document processing tasks. Word is costing me big bucks in lost productivity. And it's not just me. No one that I know is happy with Word. Does anyone know of another product that does numbering, doesn't try to make me design "pretty"; and lets "not so technical" employees get my work done? signed HAD IT UP TO HERE |
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Wonder what version of word?
Lawyers. It's always everyone else's fault. "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... : Would you let your staff drive your car without any driver training? Would : you let them loose on tax law without any training? You cannot possibly hope : to get the best from a complex piece of software without learning how to : drive it. : : -- : : Graham Mayor - Word MVP : : My web site www.gmayor.com : Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org : : : : HAD IT UP TO HERE wrote: : I'm sure you are correct, we should learn how to use Word. : : Just for fun, try an experiment. Mention Word, numbering and complex : document to any grad student or working professional who gets paid : based on work product output. : : Will you get a smile, or a scowl? : : -Cheers : : "macropod" wrote: : : Hi Don, : : Perhaps if you & your staff learned how to use Word correctly, you'd : have fewer productivity issues - indeed you might find productivity : increasing. : : Given your work situation, the proper implementation of : appropriately-formatted templates for the various kinds of documents : you need, plus training in how to use Styles, Autotext and Word's : other productivity features, would be a great boon. : : -- : Cheers : macropod : [MVP - Microsoft Word] : : : "HAD IT UP TO HERE" wrote : in message ... : ..hmm : Thank you for the reply, but I think you might have been a little : sarcastic. The first thing Works displays is "Brochure" and "Party : Invitation" . : : "Business" means headers, footers, and citations. Words does have : a lot of features but it tries to be something to everyone. For a : multi-level heading serious document, it is too clumsy, even in the : 2008 iteration. : : We are going to make a serious effort to find some that "works", pun : intended, including WP. : : Thanks : Don Lowrey : : "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: : : Microsoft Works 9 : http://www.microsoft.com/products/works/default.mspx : : : "HAD IT UP TO HERE" HAD IT UP TO : wrote in message : ... : MS Word is a Rube Goldberg machine. : : I write business documents. I don't write pretty party : invitations or have pastel backgrounds in my docs. I can program : in 2 languages plus VBA, and : I'm a tax lawyer. Complex I know. : : Nevertheless, I spend half of my time in Word mucking with : formatting : instead of drafting. My employees are less skilled, and even after : impelmenting the work arounds posted here; they waste more time : formatting : than in doing other document processing tasks. : : Word is costing me big bucks in lost productivity. : : And it's not just me. No one that I know is happy with Word. : Does anyone know of another product that does numbering, doesn't : try to make : me design "pretty"; and lets "not so technical" employees get my : work done? : : signed : HAD IT UP TO HERE : : |
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Cheap shot.
"Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote: Wonder what version of word? Lawyers. It's always everyone else's fault. "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... : Would you let your staff drive your car without any driver training? Would : you let them loose on tax law without any training? You cannot possibly hope : to get the best from a complex piece of software without learning how to : drive it. : : -- : : Graham Mayor - Word MVP : : My web site www.gmayor.com : Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org : : : : HAD IT UP TO HERE wrote: : I'm sure you are correct, we should learn how to use Word. : : Just for fun, try an experiment. Mention Word, numbering and complex : document to any grad student or working professional who gets paid : based on work product output. : : Will you get a smile, or a scowl? : : -Cheers : : "macropod" wrote: : : Hi Don, : : Perhaps if you & your staff learned how to use Word correctly, you'd : have fewer productivity issues - indeed you might find productivity : increasing. : : Given your work situation, the proper implementation of : appropriately-formatted templates for the various kinds of documents : you need, plus training in how to use Styles, Autotext and Word's : other productivity features, would be a great boon. : : -- : Cheers : macropod : [MVP - Microsoft Word] : : : "HAD IT UP TO HERE" wrote : in message ... : ..hmm : Thank you for the reply, but I think you might have been a little : sarcastic. The first thing Works displays is "Brochure" and "Party : Invitation" . : : "Business" means headers, footers, and citations. Words does have : a lot of features but it tries to be something to everyone. For a : multi-level heading serious document, it is too clumsy, even in the : 2008 iteration. : : We are going to make a serious effort to find some that "works", pun : intended, including WP. : : Thanks : Don Lowrey : : "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: : : Microsoft Works 9 : http://www.microsoft.com/products/works/default.mspx : : : "HAD IT UP TO HERE" HAD IT UP TO : wrote in message : ... : MS Word is a Rube Goldberg machine. : : I write business documents. I don't write pretty party : invitations or have pastel backgrounds in my docs. I can program : in 2 languages plus VBA, and : I'm a tax lawyer. Complex I know. : : Nevertheless, I spend half of my time in Word mucking with : formatting : instead of drafting. My employees are less skilled, and even after : impelmenting the work arounds posted here; they waste more time : formatting : than in doing other document processing tasks. : : Word is costing me big bucks in lost productivity. : : And it's not just me. No one that I know is happy with Word. : Does anyone know of another product that does numbering, doesn't : try to make : me design "pretty"; and lets "not so technical" employees get my : work done? : : signed : HAD IT UP TO HERE : : |
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Since I switched to digital workflow, I've found many alternative ways to work with documents. Previously, I had to do everything manually, but now I can use special software here https://www.pandawaiver.com/ to create a template, for example, a waiver template, save it and send it to the client for e-signature.
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