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Default book typesetting and borders around text

Me again.

Things are coming along pretty well in my undertaking, except that the
author wants borders around certain pages of text.

The problem is that some of these pages (Questionnaires) contain outlines
where, of course, some of the headings are indented. This has caused the
page borders to indent right along with the headings instead of going in a
straight line with the rest of the text. This zig zag effect is distressing,
and I need some advice here. Is there a way I can make Word ignore the
indentations and keep the page borders in a straight line?

Thanks so very much!
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If the borders are following the paragraph indents, then you're
applying borders to individual paragraphs and not to the page as a
whole. In the Borders and Shading dialog, you must use the Page Border
tab and not the Borders tab to create a border for a whole page.

The next problem you'll run into is that the smallest part of a
document to which you can apply a page border is a section (unless the
page you want happens to be the first page of a section). If you try
to apply a page border to a single page in the middle of a multi-page
section, the border will appear on all of the section's pages.

So first you need to put Next Page section breaks at the beginning and
end of the page (and delete any manual page breaks in those places) to
separate the page from the rest of the document. Then you can put the
cursor on the desired page, open the Borders and Shading dialog to the
Page Borders tab, and make sure the Apply To box is set to "This
section". Finally you can choose the Box setting and, if desired,
choose a different style, color, and width for the border.

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Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:24:01 -0800, Island Girl
wrote:

Me again.

Things are coming along pretty well in my undertaking, except that the
author wants borders around certain pages of text.

The problem is that some of these pages (Questionnaires) contain outlines
where, of course, some of the headings are indented. This has caused the
page borders to indent right along with the headings instead of going in a
straight line with the rest of the text. This zig zag effect is distressing,
and I need some advice here. Is there a way I can make Word ignore the
indentations and keep the page borders in a straight line?

Thanks so very much!

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Default book typesetting and borders around text

In addition to what Jay has said, for these specific pages, it might be more
practical to create your own "border" by drawing a rectangle, anchored to
the text on the page and positioned and formatted appropriately (including
Behind Text wrapping). If you have to do this for many pages, you can save
your "border" as an AutoText entry.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
If the borders are following the paragraph indents, then you're
applying borders to individual paragraphs and not to the page as a
whole. In the Borders and Shading dialog, you must use the Page Border
tab and not the Borders tab to create a border for a whole page.

The next problem you'll run into is that the smallest part of a
document to which you can apply a page border is a section (unless the
page you want happens to be the first page of a section). If you try
to apply a page border to a single page in the middle of a multi-page
section, the border will appear on all of the section's pages.

So first you need to put Next Page section breaks at the beginning and
end of the page (and delete any manual page breaks in those places) to
separate the page from the rest of the document. Then you can put the
cursor on the desired page, open the Borders and Shading dialog to the
Page Borders tab, and make sure the Apply To box is set to "This
section". Finally you can choose the Box setting and, if desired,
choose a different style, color, and width for the border.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:24:01 -0800, Island Girl
wrote:

Me again.

Things are coming along pretty well in my undertaking, except that the
author wants borders around certain pages of text.

The problem is that some of these pages (Questionnaires) contain outlines
where, of course, some of the headings are indented. This has caused the
page borders to indent right along with the headings instead of going in a
straight line with the rest of the text. This zig zag effect is
distressing,
and I need some advice here. Is there a way I can make Word ignore the
indentations and keep the page borders in a straight line?

Thanks so very much!



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Default book typesetting and borders around text

Thank you so very much, Jay.

You've started 2010 off very happily for me, and I'm sure I'll be needing
some more of your wonderful help in the coming year.

I wish you and your loved ones the very best that 2010 has to offer!


"Jay Freedman" wrote:

If the borders are following the paragraph indents, then you're
applying borders to individual paragraphs and not to the page as a
whole. In the Borders and Shading dialog, you must use the Page Border
tab and not the Borders tab to create a border for a whole page.

The next problem you'll run into is that the smallest part of a
document to which you can apply a page border is a section (unless the
page you want happens to be the first page of a section). If you try
to apply a page border to a single page in the middle of a multi-page
section, the border will appear on all of the section's pages.

So first you need to put Next Page section breaks at the beginning and
end of the page (and delete any manual page breaks in those places) to
separate the page from the rest of the document. Then you can put the
cursor on the desired page, open the Borders and Shading dialog to the
Page Borders tab, and make sure the Apply To box is set to "This
section". Finally you can choose the Box setting and, if desired,
choose a different style, color, and width for the border.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:24:01 -0800, Island Girl
wrote:

Me again.

Things are coming along pretty well in my undertaking, except that the
author wants borders around certain pages of text.

The problem is that some of these pages (Questionnaires) contain outlines
where, of course, some of the headings are indented. This has caused the
page borders to indent right along with the headings instead of going in a
straight line with the rest of the text. This zig zag effect is distressing,
and I need some advice here. Is there a way I can make Word ignore the
indentations and keep the page borders in a straight line?

Thanks so very much!

.

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Thanks for coming to my rescue again, Suzanne! It's a great idea and I think
I can make it work!

This typesetting attempt makes me want to go back to WordPerfect. The only
other book I did previously came out well in WordPerfect and was a "piece of
cake" compared to this. I guess I'll have to stick to Word, though, because
my real job requires it.

Thanks for everything you've done for me and others through the years. (Did
I say "years"? One would think there wouldn't be any more questions after all
this time!)

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

In addition to what Jay has said, for these specific pages, it might be more
practical to create your own "border" by drawing a rectangle, anchored to
the text on the page and positioned and formatted appropriately (including
Behind Text wrapping). If you have to do this for many pages, you can save
your "border" as an AutoText entry.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
If the borders are following the paragraph indents, then you're
applying borders to individual paragraphs and not to the page as a
whole. In the Borders and Shading dialog, you must use the Page Border
tab and not the Borders tab to create a border for a whole page.

The next problem you'll run into is that the smallest part of a
document to which you can apply a page border is a section (unless the
page you want happens to be the first page of a section). If you try
to apply a page border to a single page in the middle of a multi-page
section, the border will appear on all of the section's pages.

So first you need to put Next Page section breaks at the beginning and
end of the page (and delete any manual page breaks in those places) to
separate the page from the rest of the document. Then you can put the
cursor on the desired page, open the Borders and Shading dialog to the
Page Borders tab, and make sure the Apply To box is set to "This
section". Finally you can choose the Box setting and, if desired,
choose a different style, color, and width for the border.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:24:01 -0800, Island Girl
wrote:

Me again.

Things are coming along pretty well in my undertaking, except that the
author wants borders around certain pages of text.

The problem is that some of these pages (Questionnaires) contain outlines
where, of course, some of the headings are indented. This has caused the
page borders to indent right along with the headings instead of going in a
straight line with the rest of the text. This zig zag effect is
distressing,
and I need some advice here. Is there a way I can make Word ignore the
indentations and keep the page borders in a straight line?

Thanks so very much!



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I don't believe that anyone is able to say that they know everything about
Word. It is far too big and ponderous to fit into a single book. Even the
developers only work on particular parts of then code that they 'own'. So
much of the reason for helping out here is to keep learning from other
users' experiences - even if they are problems.

Terry Farrell

"Island Girl" wrote in message
...
Thanks for coming to my rescue again, Suzanne! It's a great idea and I
think
I can make it work!

This typesetting attempt makes me want to go back to WordPerfect. The
only
other book I did previously came out well in WordPerfect and was a "piece
of
cake" compared to this. I guess I'll have to stick to Word, though,
because
my real job requires it.

Thanks for everything you've done for me and others through the years.
(Did
I say "years"? One would think there wouldn't be any more questions after
all
this time!)

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

In addition to what Jay has said, for these specific pages, it might be
more
practical to create your own "border" by drawing a rectangle, anchored to
the text on the page and positioned and formatted appropriately
(including
Behind Text wrapping). If you have to do this for many pages, you can
save
your "border" as an AutoText entry.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
If the borders are following the paragraph indents, then you're
applying borders to individual paragraphs and not to the page as a
whole. In the Borders and Shading dialog, you must use the Page Border
tab and not the Borders tab to create a border for a whole page.

The next problem you'll run into is that the smallest part of a
document to which you can apply a page border is a section (unless the
page you want happens to be the first page of a section). If you try
to apply a page border to a single page in the middle of a multi-page
section, the border will appear on all of the section's pages.

So first you need to put Next Page section breaks at the beginning and
end of the page (and delete any manual page breaks in those places) to
separate the page from the rest of the document. Then you can put the
cursor on the desired page, open the Borders and Shading dialog to the
Page Borders tab, and make sure the Apply To box is set to "This
section". Finally you can choose the Box setting and, if desired,
choose a different style, color, and width for the border.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:24:01 -0800, Island Girl
wrote:

Me again.

Things are coming along pretty well in my undertaking, except that the
author wants borders around certain pages of text.

The problem is that some of these pages (Questionnaires) contain
outlines
where, of course, some of the headings are indented. This has caused
the
page borders to indent right along with the headings instead of going
in a
straight line with the rest of the text. This zig zag effect is
distressing,
and I need some advice here. Is there a way I can make Word ignore the
indentations and keep the page borders in a straight line?

Thanks so very much!


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Indeed!

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that anyone is able to say that they know everything about
Word. It is far too big and ponderous to fit into a single book. Even the
developers only work on particular parts of then code that they 'own'. So
much of the reason for helping out here is to keep learning from other
users' experiences - even if they are problems.

Terry Farrell

"Island Girl" wrote in message
...
Thanks for coming to my rescue again, Suzanne! It's a great idea and I
think
I can make it work!

This typesetting attempt makes me want to go back to WordPerfect. The
only
other book I did previously came out well in WordPerfect and was a "piece
of
cake" compared to this. I guess I'll have to stick to Word, though,
because
my real job requires it.

Thanks for everything you've done for me and others through the years.
(Did
I say "years"? One would think there wouldn't be any more questions after
all
this time!)

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

In addition to what Jay has said, for these specific pages, it might be
more
practical to create your own "border" by drawing a rectangle, anchored
to
the text on the page and positioned and formatted appropriately
(including
Behind Text wrapping). If you have to do this for many pages, you can
save
your "border" as an AutoText entry.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
If the borders are following the paragraph indents, then you're
applying borders to individual paragraphs and not to the page as a
whole. In the Borders and Shading dialog, you must use the Page Border
tab and not the Borders tab to create a border for a whole page.

The next problem you'll run into is that the smallest part of a
document to which you can apply a page border is a section (unless the
page you want happens to be the first page of a section). If you try
to apply a page border to a single page in the middle of a multi-page
section, the border will appear on all of the section's pages.

So first you need to put Next Page section breaks at the beginning and
end of the page (and delete any manual page breaks in those places) to
separate the page from the rest of the document. Then you can put the
cursor on the desired page, open the Borders and Shading dialog to the
Page Borders tab, and make sure the Apply To box is set to "This
section". Finally you can choose the Box setting and, if desired,
choose a different style, color, and width for the border.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:24:01 -0800, Island Girl
wrote:

Me again.

Things are coming along pretty well in my undertaking, except that the
author wants borders around certain pages of text.

The problem is that some of these pages (Questionnaires) contain
outlines
where, of course, some of the headings are indented. This has caused
the
page borders to indent right along with the headings instead of going
in a
straight line with the rest of the text. This zig zag effect is
distressing,
and I need some advice here. Is there a way I can make Word ignore
the
indentations and keep the page borders in a straight line?

Thanks so very much!


.



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