Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
mkraft mkraft is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 50
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-refere

Footnote 'references' look the same as 'cross-references' to the same
footnotes. I understand the logic there -- you want more than one reference
to the same footnote, one that will also update with any removal of existing
footnotes, or addition of new ones.

But how can you be sure whether you are looking at the footnote or the
cross-reference?

Is there any other way besides searching/hunting for the first instance of
each footnote number (or letter, etc.)? In a complex table with many
footnotes and cross-references to footnotes, that can become rather tedious.

Thanks.
  #2   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
mkraft mkraft is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 50
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-refere

Hmm, I don't know what the problem is (i.e., no replies). Maybe my post
wasn't clear.

OK, second try:

If you see a footnote number -- e.g., in a table column -- how can you tell
whether it's the original footnote reference or a cross-reference (to the
same footnote as the original footnote reference)? For example, a
superscripted number 4 -- it could be a footnote (i.e., footnote 4), but it
could also be a cross-reference that was created to refer to footnote 4.

These will look exactly the same, so how, if at all, can you tell you've got
the 'footnote' and not the 'cross reference' to the footnote?

Thanks.

------------------
"mkraft" wrote:

Footnote 'references' look the same as 'cross-references' to the same
footnotes. I understand the logic there -- you want more than one reference
to the same footnote, one that will also update with any removal of existing
footnotes, or addition of new ones.

But how can you be sure whether you are looking at the footnote or the
cross-reference?

Is there any other way besides searching/hunting for the first instance of
each footnote number (or letter, etc.)? In a complex table with many
footnotes and cross-references to footnotes, that can become rather tedious.

Thanks.

  #3   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Suzanne S. Barnhill Suzanne S. Barnhill is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 33,624
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-refere

They actually don't look the same. The footnote reference has a dotted box
around it; the cross-reference does not have the box.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"mkraft" wrote in message
...
Hmm, I don't know what the problem is (i.e., no replies). Maybe my post
wasn't clear.

OK, second try:

If you see a footnote number -- e.g., in a table column -- how can you
tell
whether it's the original footnote reference or a cross-reference (to the
same footnote as the original footnote reference)? For example, a
superscripted number 4 -- it could be a footnote (i.e., footnote 4), but
it
could also be a cross-reference that was created to refer to footnote 4.

These will look exactly the same, so how, if at all, can you tell you've
got
the 'footnote' and not the 'cross reference' to the footnote?

Thanks.

------------------
"mkraft" wrote:

Footnote 'references' look the same as 'cross-references' to the same
footnotes. I understand the logic there -- you want more than one
reference
to the same footnote, one that will also update with any removal of
existing
footnotes, or addition of new ones.

But how can you be sure whether you are looking at the footnote or the
cross-reference?

Is there any other way besides searching/hunting for the first instance
of
each footnote number (or letter, etc.)? In a complex table with many
footnotes and cross-references to footnotes, that can become rather
tedious.

Thanks.




  #4   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
mkraft mkraft is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 50
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-re

They actually don't look the same. The footnote reference has a dotted box
around it; the cross-reference does not have the box.


I haven't noticed that but will check and post a follow-up. Possibly I've
missed it because the table is so complex and in a very small (6-pt.) font
size.

Is this contrasting display always evident or does some 'preference' or
other menu item have to be checked in order to see the dotted box around the
original footnote?

Thanks.
  #5   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Suzanne S. Barnhill Suzanne S. Barnhill is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 33,624
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-re

This is standard; I would have thought it might be affected by the "text
boundaries" setting, but it is not. If the references are very small, you
can use a higher Zoom. Many users erroneously believe that they have two
footnote 5s and no 6 (or maybe it's the other way around) because the
references, especially when complicated by the bounding box, display so
purely at 100% Zoom.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"mkraft" wrote in message
...
They actually don't look the same. The footnote reference has a dotted
box
around it; the cross-reference does not have the box.


I haven't noticed that but will check and post a follow-up. Possibly I've
missed it because the table is so complex and in a very small (6-pt.) font
size.

Is this contrasting display always evident or does some 'preference' or
other menu item have to be checked in order to see the dotted box around
the
original footnote?

Thanks.





  #6   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
mkraft mkraft is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 50
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-re

The footnote reference has a dotted box
around it; the cross-reference does not have the box.


I am not seeing this on my screen -- i.e., there is nothing distinguishing
the actual footnote reference from cross-references to the same footnote.

Is the 'dotted box' something that was added in post-Word 2003 versions?

Thanks.
  #7   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Suzanne S. Barnhill Suzanne S. Barnhill is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 33,624
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-re

AFAIK the dotted box has always been there. It is certainly there in Word
2003 (there is only one "post-Word 2003 version"). I assume you're not using
a Mac version?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"mkraft" wrote in message
...
The footnote reference has a dotted box
around it; the cross-reference does not have the box.


I am not seeing this on my screen -- i.e., there is nothing distinguishing
the actual footnote reference from cross-references to the same footnote.

Is the 'dotted box' something that was added in post-Word 2003 versions?

Thanks.



  #8   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
mkraft mkraft is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 50
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-re

AFAIK the dotted box has always been there. It is certainly there in Word
2003 (there is only one "post-Word 2003 version"). I assume you're not using
a Mac version?


No, I only use WORD on a PC (Windows XP). No sign of any dotted box for
footnote *or* cross-references to footnotes.
  #9   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Suzanne S. Barnhill Suzanne S. Barnhill is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 33,624
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-re

I don't know what to say. I see the dotted box both in the text and in the
footnote. Have you tried looking at, say, 200% Zoom?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"mkraft" wrote in message
...
AFAIK the dotted box has always been there. It is certainly there in Word
2003 (there is only one "post-Word 2003 version"). I assume you're not
using
a Mac version?


No, I only use WORD on a PC (Windows XP). No sign of any dotted box for
footnote *or* cross-references to footnotes.



  #10   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
mkraft mkraft is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 50
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-re

I don't know what to say. I see the dotted box both in the text and in the
footnote. Have you tried looking at, say, 200% Zoom?


I've been up to at least 150% (zoom) because the text in the table is so
small. But my eyes aren't so bad that I'd miss a dotted box.

Couldn't this depend on the display hardware being used?

I recently used WORD on a laptop (PC) and I do recall seeing the dotted
boxes then (although the display was, overall, inferior to that on the
desktop PC's monitor).

Thanks.


  #11   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Suzanne S. Barnhill Suzanne S. Barnhill is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 33,624
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-re

I don't see how it could be hardware-dependent, but I don't have any other
explanation, either.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"mkraft" wrote in message
...
I don't know what to say. I see the dotted box both in the text and in
the
footnote. Have you tried looking at, say, 200% Zoom?


I've been up to at least 150% (zoom) because the text in the table is so
small. But my eyes aren't so bad that I'd miss a dotted box.

Couldn't this depend on the display hardware being used?

I recently used WORD on a laptop (PC) and I do recall seeing the dotted
boxes then (although the display was, overall, inferior to that on the
desktop PC's monitor).

Thanks.



  #12   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
mkraft mkraft is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 50
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-re

I don't see how it could be hardware-dependent, but I don't have any other
explanation, either.


An unanswered question within the hallowed halls of microsoft.com? Whoever
would have guessed it could happen?

Thanks anyway for your efforts.
  #13   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
David S[_2_] David S[_2_] is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 7
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-re

Another way to tell the footnote marker and the cross reference apart (before
your document is finished) would be to change the font colour for the
relevant style while you are working on the document, and then change it back
when finished.


--
David S


"mkraft" wrote:

I don't see how it could be hardware-dependent, but I don't have any other
explanation, either.


An unanswered question within the hallowed halls of microsoft.com? Whoever
would have guessed it could happen?

Thanks anyway for your efforts.

  #14   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
mkraft mkraft is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 50
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-re

Another way to tell the footnote marker and the cross reference apart
(before
your document is finished) would be to change the font colour for the
relevant style while you are working on the document, and then change it back
when finished.


Interesting, I hadn't thought of that. Thanks, I'll try it.
  #15   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Neil C Neil C is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default How tell whether footnote reference is a reference v. cross-re

You could also try selecting the text and toggling on the field codes. Cross
references show up as field code, footnotes do not. At least that's in W 2007.


"David S" wrote:

Another way to tell the footnote marker and the cross reference apart (before
your document is finished) would be to change the font colour for the
relevant style while you are working on the document, and then change it back
when finished.


--
David S


"mkraft" wrote:

I don't see how it could be hardware-dependent, but I don't have any other
explanation, either.


An unanswered question within the hallowed halls of microsoft.com? Whoever
would have guessed it could happen?

Thanks anyway for your efforts.

Reply
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
update cross reference field in a footnote Andy M. Microsoft Word Help 3 August 5th 08 10:02 AM
How to create a cross-reference to a footnote qumranandy Microsoft Word Help 1 July 19th 08 08:30 PM
Updating cross-reference to footnote Peter Schroth Microsoft Word Help 1 February 4th 07 03:05 AM
(cross-reference usage)I see "Error! Reference source not found". spiderou Microsoft Word Help 2 July 8th 05 09:34 PM
SEQ Field not in cross-reference reference type pull-down menu The Josh Microsoft Word Help 5 May 25th 05 02:27 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:44 PM.

Copyright ©2000 - 2023, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2004-2023 Microsoft Office Word Forum - WordBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Microsoft Word"