[WG, LI]

Hi all,

I've been down this road before, on a similar problem, which you all have
been kind enough to help me with already.

I include the corresponding chapter names in my page headers using the
InsertField command and "StyleRef" to specify the contents. The problem I
have had before is recurring - when I insert the field, nothing is placed in
it. I was advised earlier to look above the heading of interest and make sure
that no breaks are formatted, because Word is dutifully inserting the
contents of the first line in the section with that style. I thought I was
certain that there were no lines in front of the title, but I'm still getting
no information in spots.

Now, when I create the TOC, I get another interesting effect. Say my chapter
2 is entitled "Introduction". When I create the TOC, the title "Introduction"
is a line or two above the chapter number, with tab leaders inserted between
the title and number.

I'm sure that these two things are related somehow. I think it this means
that there are stray formatted lines or characters near my chapter headings,
but I can't for the life of me see anything. I've deleted section breaks and
re-inserted them ad nauseum, reformatted lines in the vicinity of the breaks
and chapter headings. I even took a suggestion that I read to delete all of
the section breaks and re-insert them one by one, but I'm getting no further
along in fixing the issue.

Please excuse the winded explanation - I hope my exasperation is plain to
see. I'd really appreciate some clear-thinking person to try and straighten
me out here. The content of my document has been settled for several days,
and it's this blasted formatting that's delaying me - I know, not a new story.

Thanks to all for reading this far and for any help you can provide.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I'll just add a couple of pointers for further investigation. When I've been
sent documents that had StyleRef/TOC problems like this, the stray
formatting was often applied to a paragraph that had been formatted as
Hidden (but you'll see that if you have nonprinting characters displayed) or
was in a table cell with Exact row height and was below the visible portion
of the cell. Or the formatting was applied to the end-of-cell marker in a
table, while the actual text in the cell, terminating with an unnecessary
paragraph mark, was formatted with a different style. Searching for the
style using Find may or may not be helpful in such cases; you have to be
very alert to see that the Find is stopping not where you think it is but
where you think there isn't anything!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

WG; "LI" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I've been down this road before, on a similar problem, which you all have
been kind enough to help me with already.

I include the corresponding chapter names in my page headers using the
InsertField command and "StyleRef" to specify the contents. The problem I
have had before is recurring - when I insert the field, nothing is placed
in
it. I was advised earlier to look above the heading of interest and make
sure
that no breaks are formatted, because Word is dutifully inserting the
contents of the first line in the section with that style. I thought I was
certain that there were no lines in front of the title, but I'm still
getting
no information in spots.

Now, when I create the TOC, I get another interesting effect. Say my
chapter
2 is entitled "Introduction". When I create the TOC, the title
"Introduction"
is a line or two above the chapter number, with tab leaders inserted
between
the title and number.

I'm sure that these two things are related somehow. I think it this means
that there are stray formatted lines or characters near my chapter
headings,
but I can't for the life of me see anything. I've deleted section breaks
and
re-inserted them ad nauseum, reformatted lines in the vicinity of the
breaks
and chapter headings. I even took a suggestion that I read to delete all
of
the section breaks and re-insert them one by one, but I'm getting no
further
along in fixing the issue.

Please excuse the winded explanation - I hope my exasperation is plain to
see. I'd really appreciate some clear-thinking person to try and
straighten
me out here. The content of my document has been settled for several days,
and it's this blasted formatting that's delaying me - I know, not a new
story.

Thanks to all for reading this far and for any help you can provide.

[WG, LI]

Thanks, Suzanne. Running a find on styles is helping, and in fact there was a
formatted section break hiding behind a table, and it was throwing things
off. Actually, it's one of those tables that displays a 4-way arrow in the
upper left corner when you move the cursor near the corner of the table. I
don't know quite what that means, but I've noticed that they're more trouble
than they're worth, and seem to pop up for me when I paste in tables from
another document.

Correcting it has solved much of the problem, but there's still more to do.
My TOC issue is still there for that one heading, but I'll keep after it.

Thanks again for the help.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I'll just add a couple of pointers for further investigation. When I've been
sent documents that had StyleRef/TOC problems like this, the stray
formatting was often applied to a paragraph that had been formatted as
Hidden (but you'll see that if you have nonprinting characters displayed) or
was in a table cell with Exact row height and was below the visible portion
of the cell. Or the formatting was applied to the end-of-cell marker in a
table, while the actual text in the cell, terminating with an unnecessary
paragraph mark, was formatted with a different style. Searching for the
style using Find may or may not be helpful in such cases; you have to be
very alert to see that the Find is stopping not where you think it is but
where you think there isn't anything!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

WG; "LI" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I've been down this road before, on a similar problem, which you all have
been kind enough to help me with already.

I include the corresponding chapter names in my page headers using the
InsertField command and "StyleRef" to specify the contents. The problem I
have had before is recurring - when I insert the field, nothing is placed
in
it. I was advised earlier to look above the heading of interest and make
sure
that no breaks are formatted, because Word is dutifully inserting the
contents of the first line in the section with that style. I thought I was
certain that there were no lines in front of the title, but I'm still
getting
no information in spots.

Now, when I create the TOC, I get another interesting effect. Say my
chapter
2 is entitled "Introduction". When I create the TOC, the title
"Introduction"
is a line or two above the chapter number, with tab leaders inserted
between
the title and number.

I'm sure that these two things are related somehow. I think it this means
that there are stray formatted lines or characters near my chapter
headings,
but I can't for the life of me see anything. I've deleted section breaks
and
re-inserted them ad nauseum, reformatted lines in the vicinity of the
breaks
and chapter headings. I even took a suggestion that I read to delete all
of
the section breaks and re-insert them one by one, but I'm getting no
further
along in fixing the issue.

Please excuse the winded explanation - I hope my exasperation is plain to
see. I'd really appreciate some clear-thinking person to try and
straighten
me out here. The content of my document has been settled for several days,
and it's this blasted formatting that's delaying me - I know, not a new
story.

Thanks to all for reading this far and for any help you can provide.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Such a table is "wrapped." Double-click on the table handle (top left
corner) to open the Table Properties dialog. On the Table tab, change the
text wrapping to None. The problem with the table handle is that, if you use
it to move the table (even if you only nudge it inadvertently), the table
becomes wrapped; that means there's no easy way to drag and drop a table to
a different position in the document without having to "unwrap" it
afterward. Worse still, in Word 2007, I'm told, double-clicking on the table
handle doesn't open the Table Properties dialog any more, either, making it
even more useless.

FWIW, if you work in Normal view, you won't see the table handle, which
protects you from inadvertently nudging the table.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

WG; "LI" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Suzanne. Running a find on styles is helping, and in fact there
was a
formatted section break hiding behind a table, and it was throwing things
off. Actually, it's one of those tables that displays a 4-way arrow in the
upper left corner when you move the cursor near the corner of the table. I
don't know quite what that means, but I've noticed that they're more
trouble
than they're worth, and seem to pop up for me when I paste in tables from
another document.

Correcting it has solved much of the problem, but there's still more to
do.
My TOC issue is still there for that one heading, but I'll keep after it.

Thanks again for the help.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I'll just add a couple of pointers for further investigation. When I've
been
sent documents that had StyleRef/TOC problems like this, the stray
formatting was often applied to a paragraph that had been formatted as
Hidden (but you'll see that if you have nonprinting characters
displayed) or
was in a table cell with Exact row height and was below the visible
portion
of the cell. Or the formatting was applied to the end-of-cell marker in
a
table, while the actual text in the cell, terminating with an
unnecessary
paragraph mark, was formatted with a different style. Searching for the
style using Find may or may not be helpful in such cases; you have to be
very alert to see that the Find is stopping not where you think it is
but
where you think there isn't anything!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

WG; "LI" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I've been down this road before, on a similar problem, which you all
have
been kind enough to help me with already.

I include the corresponding chapter names in my page headers using the
InsertField command and "StyleRef" to specify the contents. The
problem I
have had before is recurring - when I insert the field, nothing is
placed
in
it. I was advised earlier to look above the heading of interest and
make
sure
that no breaks are formatted, because Word is dutifully inserting the
contents of the first line in the section with that style. I thought I
was
certain that there were no lines in front of the title, but I'm still
getting
no information in spots.

Now, when I create the TOC, I get another interesting effect. Say my
chapter
2 is entitled "Introduction". When I create the TOC, the title
"Introduction"
is a line or two above the chapter number, with tab leaders inserted
between
the title and number.

I'm sure that these two things are related somehow. I think it this
means
that there are stray formatted lines or characters near my chapter
headings,
but I can't for the life of me see anything. I've deleted section
breaks
and
re-inserted them ad nauseum, reformatted lines in the vicinity of the
breaks
and chapter headings. I even took a suggestion that I read to delete
all
of
the section breaks and re-insert them one by one, but I'm getting no
further
along in fixing the issue.

Please excuse the winded explanation - I hope my exasperation is plain
to
see. I'd really appreciate some clear-thinking person to try and
straighten
me out here. The content of my document has been settled for several
days,
and it's this blasted formatting that's delaying me - I know, not a
new
story.

Thanks to all for reading this far and for any help you can provide.

[WG, LI]

Thanks again, Suzanne. Once again, your advice is invaluable. I finished my
document with a little bit of 'punting', but this will definitely help me
going forward.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Such a table is "wrapped." Double-click on the table handle (top left
corner) to open the Table Properties dialog. On the Table tab, change the
text wrapping to None. The problem with the table handle is that, if you use
it to move the table (even if you only nudge it inadvertently), the table
becomes wrapped; that means there's no easy way to drag and drop a table to
a different position in the document without having to "unwrap" it
afterward. Worse still, in Word 2007, I'm told, double-clicking on the table
handle doesn't open the Table Properties dialog any more, either, making it
even more useless.

FWIW, if you work in Normal view, you won't see the table handle, which
protects you from inadvertently nudging the table.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

WG; "LI" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Suzanne. Running a find on styles is helping, and in fact there
was a
formatted section break hiding behind a table, and it was throwing things
off. Actually, it's one of those tables that displays a 4-way arrow in the
upper left corner when you move the cursor near the corner of the table. I
don't know quite what that means, but I've noticed that they're more
trouble
than they're worth, and seem to pop up for me when I paste in tables from
another document.

Correcting it has solved much of the problem, but there's still more to
do.
My TOC issue is still there for that one heading, but I'll keep after it.

Thanks again for the help.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I'll just add a couple of pointers for further investigation. When I've
been
sent documents that had StyleRef/TOC problems like this, the stray
formatting was often applied to a paragraph that had been formatted as
Hidden (but you'll see that if you have nonprinting characters
displayed) or
was in a table cell with Exact row height and was below the visible
portion
of the cell. Or the formatting was applied to the end-of-cell marker in
a
table, while the actual text in the cell, terminating with an
unnecessary
paragraph mark, was formatted with a different style. Searching for the
style using Find may or may not be helpful in such cases; you have to be
very alert to see that the Find is stopping not where you think it is
but
where you think there isn't anything!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

WG; "LI" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I've been down this road before, on a similar problem, which you all
have
been kind enough to help me with already.

I include the corresponding chapter names in my page headers using the
InsertField command and "StyleRef" to specify the contents. The
problem I
have had before is recurring - when I insert the field, nothing is
placed
in
it. I was advised earlier to look above the heading of interest and
make
sure
that no breaks are formatted, because Word is dutifully inserting the
contents of the first line in the section with that style. I thought I
was
certain that there were no lines in front of the title, but I'm still
getting
no information in spots.

Now, when I create the TOC, I get another interesting effect. Say my
chapter
2 is entitled "Introduction". When I create the TOC, the title
"Introduction"
is a line or two above the chapter number, with tab leaders inserted
between
the title and number.

I'm sure that these two things are related somehow. I think it this
means
that there are stray formatted lines or characters near my chapter
headings,
but I can't for the life of me see anything. I've deleted section
breaks
and
re-inserted them ad nauseum, reformatted lines in the vicinity of the
breaks
and chapter headings. I even took a suggestion that I read to delete
all
of
the section breaks and re-insert them one by one, but I'm getting no
further
along in fixing the issue.

Please excuse the winded explanation - I hope my exasperation is plain
to
see. I'd really appreciate some clear-thinking person to try and
straighten
me out here. The content of my document has been settled for several
days,
and it's this blasted formatting that's delaying me - I know, not a
new
story.

Thanks to all for reading this far and for any help you can provide.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Glad I could help.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

WG; "LI" wrote in message
...
Thanks again, Suzanne. Once again, your advice is invaluable. I finished
my
document with a little bit of 'punting', but this will definitely help me
going forward.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Such a table is "wrapped." Double-click on the table handle (top left
corner) to open the Table Properties dialog. On the Table tab, change
the
text wrapping to None. The problem with the table handle is that, if you
use
it to move the table (even if you only nudge it inadvertently), the
table
becomes wrapped; that means there's no easy way to drag and drop a table
to
a different position in the document without having to "unwrap" it
afterward. Worse still, in Word 2007, I'm told, double-clicking on the
table
handle doesn't open the Table Properties dialog any more, either, making
it
even more useless.

FWIW, if you work in Normal view, you won't see the table handle, which
protects you from inadvertently nudging the table.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

WG; "LI" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Suzanne. Running a find on styles is helping, and in fact
there
was a
formatted section break hiding behind a table, and it was throwing
things
off. Actually, it's one of those tables that displays a 4-way arrow in
the
upper left corner when you move the cursor near the corner of the
table. I
don't know quite what that means, but I've noticed that they're more
trouble
than they're worth, and seem to pop up for me when I paste in tables
from
another document.

Correcting it has solved much of the problem, but there's still more
to
do.
My TOC issue is still there for that one heading, but I'll keep after
it.

Thanks again for the help.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I'll just add a couple of pointers for further investigation. When
I've
been
sent documents that had StyleRef/TOC problems like this, the stray
formatting was often applied to a paragraph that had been formatted
as
Hidden (but you'll see that if you have nonprinting characters
displayed) or
was in a table cell with Exact row height and was below the visible
portion
of the cell. Or the formatting was applied to the end-of-cell marker
in
a
table, while the actual text in the cell, terminating with an
unnecessary
paragraph mark, was formatted with a different style. Searching for
the
style using Find may or may not be helpful in such cases; you have
to be
very alert to see that the Find is stopping not where you think it
is
but
where you think there isn't anything!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

WG; "LI" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I've been down this road before, on a similar problem, which you
all
have
been kind enough to help me with already.

I include the corresponding chapter names in my page headers using
the
InsertField command and "StyleRef" to specify the contents. The
problem I
have had before is recurring - when I insert the field, nothing is
placed
in
it. I was advised earlier to look above the heading of interest
and
make
sure
that no breaks are formatted, because Word is dutifully inserting
the
contents of the first line in the section with that style. I
thought I
was
certain that there were no lines in front of the title, but I'm
still
getting
no information in spots.

Now, when I create the TOC, I get another interesting effect. Say
my
chapter
2 is entitled "Introduction". When I create the TOC, the title
"Introduction"
is a line or two above the chapter number, with tab leaders
inserted
between
the title and number.

I'm sure that these two things are related somehow. I think it
this
means
that there are stray formatted lines or characters near my chapter
headings,
but I can't for the life of me see anything. I've deleted section
breaks
and
re-inserted them ad nauseum, reformatted lines in the vicinity of
the
breaks
and chapter headings. I even took a suggestion that I read to
delete
all
of
the section breaks and re-insert them one by one, but I'm getting
no
further
along in fixing the issue.

Please excuse the winded explanation - I hope my exasperation is
plain
to
see. I'd really appreciate some clear-thinking person to try and
straighten
me out here. The content of my document has been settled for
several
days,
and it's this blasted formatting that's delaying me - I know, not
a
new
story.

Thanks to all for reading this far and for any help you can
provide.