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BekkiM
 
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I have a document that has many section breaks so that I can include both
portrait and landscape portions in the same document. I have a standard
Header that includes basic document information (Title, Subject, Last
Modified, and Version) that's formatted (with tabs) to stretch across the top
of the page:

[Left Margin] TITLE [Right-Tab] VERSION [Right Margin]
[Left Margin] SUBJECT [Right-Tab] MODIFIED DATE [Right Margin]

I pull Title, Subject, and Modified in from Word Fields (and presumably they
auto-update--but that's another issue), but Version is straight text b/c I
only want to update it when I publish the document, not each time I modify it.

My question is: Is there anyway to set up my Header so the right-justified
text is always relative to the margin (whether I'm in the portrait or
landscape section)?

Right now, I've got two styles defined: Header and Header Landscape which
means that every time I add a new section, I have to go in, turn off "Same as
Previous" and update the style to the correct version. In addition, b/c
"Same as Previous" is turned off, when I update my Version number, I have to
manually update it in every section.

I hope this makes sense and that someone can help me.
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Default Portrait and Landscape Headers and Footers

You can create a two-column borderless table and left-align the left column
and right-align the right column. If you set the table width to 100%, it
should adjust. Note, however, that this causes Word to have to do a lot of
paddling under the water, which may be reflected in the header shivering
like a jelly.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"BekkiM" wrote in message
...
I have a document that has many section breaks so that I can include both
portrait and landscape portions in the same document. I have a standard
Header that includes basic document information (Title, Subject, Last
Modified, and Version) that's formatted (with tabs) to stretch across the

top
of the page:

[Left Margin] TITLE [Right-Tab] VERSION [Right

Margin]
[Left Margin] SUBJECT [Right-Tab] MODIFIED DATE [Right Margin]

I pull Title, Subject, and Modified in from Word Fields (and presumably

they
auto-update--but that's another issue), but Version is straight text b/c I
only want to update it when I publish the document, not each time I modify

it.

My question is: Is there anyway to set up my Header so the right-justified
text is always relative to the margin (whether I'm in the portrait or
landscape section)?

Right now, I've got two styles defined: Header and Header Landscape which
means that every time I add a new section, I have to go in, turn off "Same

as
Previous" and update the style to the correct version. In addition, b/c
"Same as Previous" is turned off, when I update my Version number, I have

to
manually update it in every section.

I hope this makes sense and that someone can help me.


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BekkiM
 
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Default Portrait and Landscape Headers and Footers

I'm trying to incorporate your suggestion (which makes a lot of sense to me),
but unless I turn off "Same as Previous", the table stretches to landscape
size, even in my portrait sections. This defeats my goal of only having to
insert the version number once--I still end up going into every section and
updating the version number.

Maybe this is a field problem. If I create a custom field, can I get it to
automatically update in the header when I update its value?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You can create a two-column borderless table and left-align the left column
and right-align the right column. If you set the table width to 100%, it
should adjust. Note, however, that this causes Word to have to do a lot of
paddling under the water, which may be reflected in the header shivering
like a jelly.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"BekkiM" wrote in message
...
I have a document that has many section breaks so that I can include both
portrait and landscape portions in the same document. I have a standard
Header that includes basic document information (Title, Subject, Last
Modified, and Version) that's formatted (with tabs) to stretch across the

top
of the page:

[Left Margin] TITLE [Right-Tab] VERSION [Right

Margin]
[Left Margin] SUBJECT [Right-Tab] MODIFIED DATE [Right Margin]

I pull Title, Subject, and Modified in from Word Fields (and presumably

they
auto-update--but that's another issue), but Version is straight text b/c I
only want to update it when I publish the document, not each time I modify

it.

My question is: Is there anyway to set up my Header so the right-justified
text is always relative to the margin (whether I'm in the portrait or
landscape section)?

Right now, I've got two styles defined: Header and Header Landscape which
means that every time I add a new section, I have to go in, turn off "Same

as
Previous" and update the style to the correct version. In addition, b/c
"Same as Previous" is turned off, when I update my Version number, I have

to
manually update it in every section.

I hope this makes sense and that someone can help me.



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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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I'm confused. The table should be conforming to 100% of the margin width in
every header, whether portrait or landscape. And yes, if you want to use a
field for the version number, you'll need to define a custom document
property and use a DocProperty field to insert it.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"BekkiM" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to incorporate your suggestion (which makes a lot of sense to

me),
but unless I turn off "Same as Previous", the table stretches to landscape
size, even in my portrait sections. This defeats my goal of only having

to
insert the version number once--I still end up going into every section

and
updating the version number.

Maybe this is a field problem. If I create a custom field, can I get it

to
automatically update in the header when I update its value?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You can create a two-column borderless table and left-align the left

column
and right-align the right column. If you set the table width to 100%, it
should adjust. Note, however, that this causes Word to have to do a lot

of
paddling under the water, which may be reflected in the header shivering
like a jelly.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"BekkiM" wrote in message
...
I have a document that has many section breaks so that I can include

both
portrait and landscape portions in the same document. I have a

standard
Header that includes basic document information (Title, Subject, Last
Modified, and Version) that's formatted (with tabs) to stretch across

the
top
of the page:

[Left Margin] TITLE [Right-Tab] VERSION [Right

Margin]
[Left Margin] SUBJECT [Right-Tab] MODIFIED DATE [Right

Margin]

I pull Title, Subject, and Modified in from Word Fields (and

presumably
they
auto-update--but that's another issue), but Version is straight text

b/c I
only want to update it when I publish the document, not each time I

modify
it.

My question is: Is there anyway to set up my Header so the

right-justified
text is always relative to the margin (whether I'm in the portrait or
landscape section)?

Right now, I've got two styles defined: Header and Header Landscape

which
means that every time I add a new section, I have to go in, turn off

"Same
as
Previous" and update the style to the correct version. In addition,

b/c
"Same as Previous" is turned off, when I update my Version number, I

have
to
manually update it in every section.

I hope this makes sense and that someone can help me.




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BekkiM
 
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I'm confused too. The functionality certainly looks like it should
behave the way you described, but it doesn't seem to be working on my
machine. Maybe I'm missing a patch?

At any rate, thanks for the help. I've decided to get around the problem
altogether by right-justifying everything (instead of my fancy mix of left
and right) which carries through the various sections just fine. Sometimes
the old-fashioned approach is probably the best!

Thanks again!

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I'm confused. The table should be conforming to 100% of the margin width in
every header, whether portrait or landscape. And yes, if you want to use a
field for the version number, you'll need to define a custom document
property and use a DocProperty field to insert it.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"BekkiM" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to incorporate your suggestion (which makes a lot of sense to

me),
but unless I turn off "Same as Previous", the table stretches to landscape
size, even in my portrait sections. This defeats my goal of only having

to
insert the version number once--I still end up going into every section

and
updating the version number.

Maybe this is a field problem. If I create a custom field, can I get it

to
automatically update in the header when I update its value?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You can create a two-column borderless table and left-align the left

column
and right-align the right column. If you set the table width to 100%, it
should adjust. Note, however, that this causes Word to have to do a lot

of
paddling under the water, which may be reflected in the header shivering
like a jelly.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"BekkiM" wrote in message
...
I have a document that has many section breaks so that I can include

both
portrait and landscape portions in the same document. I have a

standard
Header that includes basic document information (Title, Subject, Last
Modified, and Version) that's formatted (with tabs) to stretch across

the
top
of the page:

[Left Margin] TITLE [Right-Tab] VERSION [Right
Margin]
[Left Margin] SUBJECT [Right-Tab] MODIFIED DATE [Right

Margin]

I pull Title, Subject, and Modified in from Word Fields (and

presumably
they
auto-update--but that's another issue), but Version is straight text

b/c I
only want to update it when I publish the document, not each time I

modify
it.

My question is: Is there anyway to set up my Header so the

right-justified
text is always relative to the margin (whether I'm in the portrait or
landscape section)?

Right now, I've got two styles defined: Header and Header Landscape

which
means that every time I add a new section, I have to go in, turn off

"Same
as
Previous" and update the style to the correct version. In addition,

b/c
"Same as Previous" is turned off, when I update my Version number, I

have
to
manually update it in every section.

I hope this makes sense and that someone can help me.






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Well, I just tried it here, and the header, inserted on a portrait page and
set to 100%, does extend to the landscape with in a landscape section, but
then when I go back to the portrait section, it's expanded there, too, so
evidently it *doesn't* work as expected.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"BekkiM" wrote in message
...
I'm confused too. The functionality certainly looks like it should
behave the way you described, but it doesn't seem to be working on my
machine. Maybe I'm missing a patch?

At any rate, thanks for the help. I've decided to get around the problem
altogether by right-justifying everything (instead of my fancy mix of left
and right) which carries through the various sections just fine.

Sometimes
the old-fashioned approach is probably the best!

Thanks again!

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I'm confused. The table should be conforming to 100% of the margin width

in
every header, whether portrait or landscape. And yes, if you want to use

a
field for the version number, you'll need to define a custom document
property and use a DocProperty field to insert it.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"BekkiM" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to incorporate your suggestion (which makes a lot of sense

to
me),
but unless I turn off "Same as Previous", the table stretches to

landscape
size, even in my portrait sections. This defeats my goal of only

having
to
insert the version number once--I still end up going into every

section
and
updating the version number.

Maybe this is a field problem. If I create a custom field, can I get

it
to
automatically update in the header when I update its value?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You can create a two-column borderless table and left-align the left

column
and right-align the right column. If you set the table width to

100%, it
should adjust. Note, however, that this causes Word to have to do a

lot
of
paddling under the water, which may be reflected in the header

shivering
like a jelly.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"BekkiM" wrote in message
...
I have a document that has many section breaks so that I can

include
both
portrait and landscape portions in the same document. I have a

standard
Header that includes basic document information (Title, Subject,

Last
Modified, and Version) that's formatted (with tabs) to stretch

across
the
top
of the page:

[Left Margin] TITLE [Right-Tab] VERSION

[Right
Margin]
[Left Margin] SUBJECT [Right-Tab] MODIFIED DATE [Right

Margin]

I pull Title, Subject, and Modified in from Word Fields (and

presumably
they
auto-update--but that's another issue), but Version is straight

text
b/c I
only want to update it when I publish the document, not each time

I
modify
it.

My question is: Is there anyway to set up my Header so the

right-justified
text is always relative to the margin (whether I'm in the portrait

or
landscape section)?

Right now, I've got two styles defined: Header and Header

Landscape
which
means that every time I add a new section, I have to go in, turn

off
"Same
as
Previous" and update the style to the correct version. In

addition,
b/c
"Same as Previous" is turned off, when I update my Version number,

I
have
to
manually update it in every section.

I hope this makes sense and that someone can help me.





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