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This is an interesting assignment:
I need to feed information to Word 2000 telling it to merge given files with given data, producing given output. I figure I would append instructions to a text file, then have a Word macro periodically look at the text file, and, if instructions were found, perform a merge. The text file would look something like this: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf c:\templatedir\document2.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output2.rtf So, the macro would merge document1.doc with data.txt and write output1.rtf, and continue to the next record, etc. I'm not a VB programmer, does this look doable? |
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What 'instructions' do you propose adding to the text file that would
trigger the need to re-merge? Is this text file the data file? A word merge will write all its output to a single file - you could split that file later into separate documents, but it would always start as a single file. Whether what you propose is doable or not depends on exactly what it is you are proposing and you have provided insufficient information about the project to form an opinion. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Steve wrote: This is an interesting assignment: I need to feed information to Word 2000 telling it to merge given files with given data, producing given output. I figure I would append instructions to a text file, then have a Word macro periodically look at the text file, and, if instructions were found, perform a merge. The text file would look something like this: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf c:\templatedir\document2.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output2.rtf So, the macro would merge document1.doc with data.txt and write output1.rtf, and continue to the next record, etc. I'm not a VB programmer, does this look doable? |
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The text file example provided IS the instruction. Each record contains three
filenames. For example, the first record: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf says merge [data.txt] with [document1.doc] and write [output1.rtf] Steve "Graham Mayor" wrote: What 'instructions' do you propose adding to the text file that would trigger the need to re-merge? Is this text file the data file? A word merge will write all its output to a single file - you could split that file later into separate documents, but it would always start as a single file. Whether what you propose is doable or not depends on exactly what it is you are proposing and you have provided insufficient information about the project to form an opinion. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Steve wrote: This is an interesting assignment: I need to feed information to Word 2000 telling it to merge given files with given data, producing given output. I figure I would append instructions to a text file, then have a Word macro periodically look at the text file, and, if instructions were found, perform a merge. The text file would look something like this: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf c:\templatedir\document2.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output2.rtf So, the macro would merge document1.doc with data.txt and write output1.rtf, and continue to the next record, etc. I'm not a VB programmer, does this look doable? |
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Your further response creates more questions than answers I'm afraid.
Am I to take it that document1.doc is a merge document containing fields represented in data.txt, and that data.txt will contain a single record and that custdir will change according to the customer? Thus you are intending to run a lot of individual merges? No guarantees that it will take us any farther, but can you tell us a lot more about what you are doing and the documents involved. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Steve wrote: The text file example provided IS the instruction. Each record contains three filenames. For example, the first record: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf says merge [data.txt] with [document1.doc] and write [output1.rtf] Steve "Graham Mayor" wrote: What 'instructions' do you propose adding to the text file that would trigger the need to re-merge? Is this text file the data file? A word merge will write all its output to a single file - you could split that file later into separate documents, but it would always start as a single file. Whether what you propose is doable or not depends on exactly what it is you are proposing and you have provided insufficient information about the project to form an opinion. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Steve wrote: This is an interesting assignment: I need to feed information to Word 2000 telling it to merge given files with given data, producing given output. I figure I would append instructions to a text file, then have a Word macro periodically look at the text file, and, if instructions were found, perform a merge. The text file would look something like this: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf c:\templatedir\document2.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output2.rtf So, the macro would merge document1.doc with data.txt and write output1.rtf, and continue to the next record, etc. I'm not a VB programmer, does this look doable? |
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Ok, yes I was trying to keep the question simple. I need to build a
"contiinuous merge process" that runs 24x7 on a server. Using a database application, individuals will perform data-entry on their own client computers. Web users will also submit data. Once a client has completed data-entry, the database application will create one delimited ASCII data.txt containing results of the data-entry and place it a customer folder, for example c:\customerA\data.txt. Each customer has a unique folder name. The database application will then need to merge somewhere between one and a dozen documents with the data.txt merge file. For example, DocumentA.doc, DocumentB.doc, DocumentC.doc. Each will merge with the c:\customerA\data.txt. The above would require three merge runs, each writing an individual document in RTF format, written to the customerA folder. So, in this senerio, the "instruction file" would contain three records as I have described earlier. ---- I have just discovered that MS Word 2000 allows a maximum of 255 merge fields in a data source. That may render this question moot. My merge file has over 700 fields. ----- Steve ----------------------------------------------------- "Graham Mayor" wrote: Your further response creates more questions than answers I'm afraid. Am I to take it that document1.doc is a merge document containing fields represented in data.txt, and that data.txt will contain a single record and that custdir will change according to the customer? Thus you are intending to run a lot of individual merges? No guarantees that it will take us any farther, but can you tell us a lot more about what you are doing and the documents involved. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Steve wrote: The text file example provided IS the instruction. Each record contains three filenames. For example, the first record: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf says merge [data.txt] with [document1.doc] and write [output1.rtf] Steve "Graham Mayor" wrote: What 'instructions' do you propose adding to the text file that would trigger the need to re-merge? Is this text file the data file? A word merge will write all its output to a single file - you could split that file later into separate documents, but it would always start as a single file. Whether what you propose is doable or not depends on exactly what it is you are proposing and you have provided insufficient information about the project to form an opinion. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Steve wrote: This is an interesting assignment: I need to feed information to Word 2000 telling it to merge given files with given data, producing given output. I figure I would append instructions to a text file, then have a Word macro periodically look at the text file, and, if instructions were found, perform a merge. The text file would look something like this: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf c:\templatedir\document2.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output2.rtf So, the macro would merge document1.doc with data.txt and write output1.rtf, and continue to the next record, etc. I'm not a VB programmer, does this look doable? |
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Hi Steve,
This doesn't sound like a mailmerge at all, at least not in the sense that Word uses the term. Having said that, and depending on what's in your source file and where it does in the target file, that may necessitate the use of a mailmerge approach. What you're describing is, superficially at least, a linked document. In this case, your c:\templatedir\document1.doc is the target and c:\custdir\data.txt is the source. Linking would work well if your source document contains a text string or a list that needs to be inserted as a job lot into one location in the target document. If you create one of your source files, and a 'test' file for use as a target document, use Word's Insert|File tools from the menu to insert the text file as a link. This will import the contents of the text file into your Word document. Next, change the source file then press F9 in Word, and you'll see that the Word document updates to reflect the changes. See INCLUDETEXT in Word's Help file for more info. If you want to save the file to rtf, with the link 'locked' to prevent further changes, simply select ihe inserted material and press Ctrl-Shift-F9 before saving. This process would be quite easy to automate. However, if your source file has fields that need to be inserted into different places in your target document, a mailmerge approach would probably work better. In that case, you'd need your text files to have a consistent, delimited structure; otherwise you wouldn't be able to control which fields went where in the Word document. If, for example, some fields are sometimes empty, the empty fields would still have to be included in the text file - you couldn't simply leave them out and expect Word to work out what's happened. provided you do that, this process would also be quite easy to automate. Cheers "Steve" wrote in message ... Ok, yes I was trying to keep the question simple. I need to build a "contiinuous merge process" that runs 24x7 on a server. Using a database application, individuals will perform data-entry on their own client computers. Web users will also submit data. Once a client has completed data-entry, the database application will create one delimited ASCII data.txt containing results of the data-entry and place it a customer folder, for example c:\customerA\data.txt. Each customer has a unique folder name. The database application will then need to merge somewhere between one and a dozen documents with the data.txt merge file. For example, DocumentA.doc, DocumentB.doc, DocumentC.doc. Each will merge with the c:\customerA\data.txt. The above would require three merge runs, each writing an individual document in RTF format, written to the customerA folder. So, in this senerio, the "instruction file" would contain three records as I have described earlier. ---- I have just discovered that MS Word 2000 allows a maximum of 255 merge fields in a data source. That may render this question moot. My merge file has over 700 fields. ----- Steve ----------------------------------------------------- "Graham Mayor" wrote: Your further response creates more questions than answers I'm afraid. Am I to take it that document1.doc is a merge document containing fields represented in data.txt, and that data.txt will contain a single record and that custdir will change according to the customer? Thus you are intending to run a lot of individual merges? No guarantees that it will take us any farther, but can you tell us a lot more about what you are doing and the documents involved. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Steve wrote: The text file example provided IS the instruction. Each record contains three filenames. For example, the first record: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf says merge [data.txt] with [document1.doc] and write [output1.rtf] Steve "Graham Mayor" wrote: What 'instructions' do you propose adding to the text file that would trigger the need to re-merge? Is this text file the data file? A word merge will write all its output to a single file - you could split that file later into separate documents, but it would always start as a single file. Whether what you propose is doable or not depends on exactly what it is you are proposing and you have provided insufficient information about the project to form an opinion. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Steve wrote: This is an interesting assignment: I need to feed information to Word 2000 telling it to merge given files with given data, producing given output. I figure I would append instructions to a text file, then have a Word macro periodically look at the text file, and, if instructions were found, perform a merge. The text file would look something like this: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf c:\templatedir\document2.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output2.rtf So, the macro would merge document1.doc with data.txt and write output1.rtf, and continue to the next record, etc. I'm not a VB programmer, does this look doable? |
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Thanks, but I have to merge in hundreds of pieces of text and variables, so a
merege is required. Also, I find out that Word only allows 255 fields in a merge data source (at least that was where it cut off when I tried to merge my 500+ field data source). So I can't use Word at all for this process. I have to use Word Perfect which has no such limits). Steve ---------------- "macropod" wrote: Hi Steve, This doesn't sound like a mailmerge at all, at least not in the sense that Word uses the term. Having said that, and depending on what's in your source file and where it does in the target file, that may necessitate the use of a mailmerge approach. What you're describing is, superficially at least, a linked document. In this case, your c:\templatedir\document1.doc is the target and c:\custdir\data.txt is the source. Linking would work well if your source document contains a text string or a list that needs to be inserted as a job lot into one location in the target document. If you create one of your source files, and a 'test' file for use as a target document, use Word's Insert|File tools from the menu to insert the text file as a link. This will import the contents of the text file into your Word document. Next, change the source file then press F9 in Word, and you'll see that the Word document updates to reflect the changes. See INCLUDETEXT in Word's Help file for more info. If you want to save the file to rtf, with the link 'locked' to prevent further changes, simply select ihe inserted material and press Ctrl-Shift-F9 before saving. This process would be quite easy to automate. However, if your source file has fields that need to be inserted into different places in your target document, a mailmerge approach would probably work better. In that case, you'd need your text files to have a consistent, delimited structure; otherwise you wouldn't be able to control which fields went where in the Word document. If, for example, some fields are sometimes empty, the empty fields would still have to be included in the text file - you couldn't simply leave them out and expect Word to work out what's happened. provided you do that, this process would also be quite easy to automate. Cheers "Steve" wrote in message ... Ok, yes I was trying to keep the question simple. I need to build a "contiinuous merge process" that runs 24x7 on a server. Using a database application, individuals will perform data-entry on their own client computers. Web users will also submit data. Once a client has completed data-entry, the database application will create one delimited ASCII data.txt containing results of the data-entry and place it a customer folder, for example c:\customerA\data.txt. Each customer has a unique folder name. The database application will then need to merge somewhere between one and a dozen documents with the data.txt merge file. For example, DocumentA.doc, DocumentB.doc, DocumentC.doc. Each will merge with the c:\customerA\data.txt. The above would require three merge runs, each writing an individual document in RTF format, written to the customerA folder. So, in this senerio, the "instruction file" would contain three records as I have described earlier. ---- I have just discovered that MS Word 2000 allows a maximum of 255 merge fields in a data source. That may render this question moot. My merge file has over 700 fields. ----- Steve ----------------------------------------------------- "Graham Mayor" wrote: Your further response creates more questions than answers I'm afraid. Am I to take it that document1.doc is a merge document containing fields represented in data.txt, and that data.txt will contain a single record and that custdir will change according to the customer? Thus you are intending to run a lot of individual merges? No guarantees that it will take us any farther, but can you tell us a lot more about what you are doing and the documents involved. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Steve wrote: The text file example provided IS the instruction. Each record contains three filenames. For example, the first record: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf says merge [data.txt] with [document1.doc] and write [output1.rtf] Steve "Graham Mayor" wrote: What 'instructions' do you propose adding to the text file that would trigger the need to re-merge? Is this text file the data file? A word merge will write all its output to a single file - you could split that file later into separate documents, but it would always start as a single file. Whether what you propose is doable or not depends on exactly what it is you are proposing and you have provided insufficient information about the project to form an opinion. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Steve wrote: This is an interesting assignment: I need to feed information to Word 2000 telling it to merge given files with given data, producing given output. I figure I would append instructions to a text file, then have a Word macro periodically look at the text file, and, if instructions were found, perform a merge. The text file would look something like this: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf c:\templatedir\document2.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output2.rtf So, the macro would merge document1.doc with data.txt and write output1.rtf, and continue to the next record, etc. I'm not a VB programmer, does this look doable? |
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500+ fields per customer?
"Steve" wrote in message ... Thanks, but I have to merge in hundreds of pieces of text and variables, so a merege is required. Also, I find out that Word only allows 255 fields in a merge data source (at least that was where it cut off when I tried to merge my 500+ field data source). So I can't use Word at all for this process. I have to use Word Perfect which has no such limits). Steve ---------------- "macropod" wrote: Hi Steve, This doesn't sound like a mailmerge at all, at least not in the sense that Word uses the term. Having said that, and depending on what's in your source file and where it does in the target file, that may necessitate the use of a mailmerge approach. What you're describing is, superficially at least, a linked document. In this case, your c:\templatedir\document1.doc is the target and c:\custdir\data.txt is the source. Linking would work well if your source document contains a text string or a list that needs to be inserted as a job lot into one location in the target document. If you create one of your source files, and a 'test' file for use as a target document, use Word's Insert|File tools from the menu to insert the text file as a link. This will import the contents of the text file into your Word document. Next, change the source file then press F9 in Word, and you'll see that the Word document updates to reflect the changes. See INCLUDETEXT in Word's Help file for more info. If you want to save the file to rtf, with the link 'locked' to prevent further changes, simply select ihe inserted material and press Ctrl-Shift-F9 before saving. This process would be quite easy to automate. However, if your source file has fields that need to be inserted into different places in your target document, a mailmerge approach would probably work better. In that case, you'd need your text files to have a consistent, delimited structure; otherwise you wouldn't be able to control which fields went where in the Word document. If, for example, some fields are sometimes empty, the empty fields would still have to be included in the text file - you couldn't simply leave them out and expect Word to work out what's happened. provided you do that, this process would also be quite easy to automate. Cheers "Steve" wrote in message ... Ok, yes I was trying to keep the question simple. I need to build a "contiinuous merge process" that runs 24x7 on a server. Using a database application, individuals will perform data-entry on their own client computers. Web users will also submit data. Once a client has completed data-entry, the database application will create one delimited ASCII data.txt containing results of the data-entry and place it a customer folder, for example c:\customerA\data.txt. Each customer has a unique folder name. The database application will then need to merge somewhere between one and a dozen documents with the data.txt merge file. For example, DocumentA.doc, DocumentB.doc, DocumentC.doc. Each will merge with the c:\customerA\data.txt. The above would require three merge runs, each writing an individual document in RTF format, written to the customerA folder. So, in this senerio, the "instruction file" would contain three records as I have described earlier. ---- I have just discovered that MS Word 2000 allows a maximum of 255 merge fields in a data source. That may render this question moot. My merge file has over 700 fields. ----- Steve ----------------------------------------------------- "Graham Mayor" wrote: Your further response creates more questions than answers I'm afraid. Am I to take it that document1.doc is a merge document containing fields represented in data.txt, and that data.txt will contain a single record and that custdir will change according to the customer? Thus you are intending to run a lot of individual merges? No guarantees that it will take us any farther, but can you tell us a lot more about what you are doing and the documents involved. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Steve wrote: The text file example provided IS the instruction. Each record contains three filenames. For example, the first record: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf says merge [data.txt] with [document1.doc] and write [output1.rtf] Steve "Graham Mayor" wrote: What 'instructions' do you propose adding to the text file that would trigger the need to re-merge? Is this text file the data file? A word merge will write all its output to a single file - you could split that file later into separate documents, but it would always start as a single file. Whether what you propose is doable or not depends on exactly what it is you are proposing and you have provided insufficient information about the project to form an opinion. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Steve wrote: This is an interesting assignment: I need to feed information to Word 2000 telling it to merge given files with given data, producing given output. I figure I would append instructions to a text file, then have a Word macro periodically look at the text file, and, if instructions were found, perform a merge. The text file would look something like this: c:\templatedir\document1.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output1.rtf c:\templatedir\document2.doc,c:\custdir\data.txt,c :\custdir\output2.rtf So, the macro would merge document1.doc with data.txt and write output1.rtf, and continue to the next record, etc. I'm not a VB programmer, does this look doable? |
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Yes, although I suppose its possible to break the one file into several
smaller data source files. They are legal documents and the bulk of the fields contain names, addresses, relationships of persons named in the document. I could probably normalize this a bit. I still am suprised Word limits the data source to 255; I expect that is because it holds the values in an array so it can show the "merged" documents directly in the Main Document prior to performing the actual merge process to a final document. "macropod" wrote: 500+ fields per customer? |
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