[JCameron]

"I know Engineers! They love to change things."
Dr. Leonard McCoy - Star Trek, The Motion Picture

Our company is now forcing us to upgrade to Vista. All those problems aside,
it also means we now have to use Word 2007. I am getting the hang of it, but
so much has changed. I'm all in favor of "New Features", but I need to get
work done before I can pick up all the new stuff.

One problem that I have not yet been able to figure out is Font Colors. Many
of our documents include Special Font colors to indicate commands to be
typed. In Word 2007 all the preselected colors are different, so if I add a
new line of colored text, I cant get the exact color to match the rest of the
colored text. In the original document, I did not use a special custom color,
just one of the simple basic colors offered by Word 2002 like "Blue". In Word
2007 there are many more "Blue" options, but none of them match the orriginal
basic Blue from Word 2002.

The last thing I want to do is go through the entire document and change all
the special text to the "New-Blue".

Any Suggestions?

[Graham Mayor]

Create a custom colour RGB format Red 0 Green 0 Blue 255
The font colour tool will retain that colour as a 'recently used' colour
or
you could save the coloured text as a character style for ease of
re-application.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



JCameron wrote:
"I know Engineers! They love to change things."
Dr. Leonard McCoy - Star Trek, The Motion Picture

Our company is now forcing us to upgrade to Vista. All those problems
aside, it also means we now have to use Word 2007. I am getting the
hang of it, but so much has changed. I'm all in favor of "New
Features", but I need to get work done before I can pick up all the
new stuff.

One problem that I have not yet been able to figure out is Font
Colors. Many of our documents include Special Font colors to indicate
commands to be typed. In Word 2007 all the preselected colors are
different, so if I add a new line of colored text, I cant get the
exact color to match the rest of the colored text. In the original
document, I did not use a special custom color, just one of the
simple basic colors offered by Word 2002 like "Blue". In Word 2007
there are many more "Blue" options, but none of them match the
orriginal basic Blue from Word 2002.

The last thing I want to do is go through the entire document and
change all the special text to the "New-Blue".

Any Suggestions?

[JCameron]

That was the first thing I tried. It is not the issue.

I have to match the existing colors in the document which were default
colors provided in Word 2002. The Color "Blue" in the old Word 2002 is
apparently not [Red:0,Green:0,Blue:255].
Additionally, "Blue" is not the only color I need to match. What I would
like is the exact default color palette offered in older versions, but I know
how likely I am to get that request granted.

I could get by if I could examine the color definitions for existing colored
text.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Create a custom colour RGB format Red 0 Green 0 Blue 255
The font colour tool will retain that colour as a 'recently used' colour
or
you could save the coloured text as a character style for ease of
re-application.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



JCameron wrote:
"I know Engineers! They love to change things."
Dr. Leonard McCoy - Star Trek, The Motion Picture

Our company is now forcing us to upgrade to Vista. All those problems
aside, it also means we now have to use Word 2007. I am getting the
hang of it, but so much has changed. I'm all in favor of "New
Features", but I need to get work done before I can pick up all the
new stuff.

One problem that I have not yet been able to figure out is Font
Colors. Many of our documents include Special Font colors to indicate
commands to be typed. In Word 2007 all the preselected colors are
different, so if I add a new line of colored text, I cant get the
exact color to match the rest of the colored text. In the original
document, I did not use a special custom color, just one of the
simple basic colors offered by Word 2002 like "Blue". In Word 2007
there are many more "Blue" options, but none of them match the
orriginal basic Blue from Word 2002.

The last thing I want to do is go through the entire document and
change all the special text to the "New-Blue".

Any Suggestions?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Word 2003's font color Blue *is* RGB 0, 0, 255; this is still available from
the Font Color dialog in Word 2007 (More Colors), though the "standard
color" labeled Blue in Word 2007 is, as you have said, different.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
That was the first thing I tried. It is not the issue.

I have to match the existing colors in the document which were default
colors provided in Word 2002. The Color "Blue" in the old Word 2002 is
apparently not [Red:0,Green:0,Blue:255].
Additionally, "Blue" is not the only color I need to match. What I would
like is the exact default color palette offered in older versions, but I
know
how likely I am to get that request granted.

I could get by if I could examine the color definitions for existing
colored
text.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Create a custom colour RGB format Red 0 Green 0 Blue 255
The font colour tool will retain that colour as a 'recently used' colour
or
you could save the coloured text as a character style for ease of
re-application.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



JCameron wrote:
"I know Engineers! They love to change things."
Dr. Leonard McCoy - Star Trek, The Motion Picture

Our company is now forcing us to upgrade to Vista. All those problems
aside, it also means we now have to use Word 2007. I am getting the
hang of it, but so much has changed. I'm all in favor of "New
Features", but I need to get work done before I can pick up all the
new stuff.

One problem that I have not yet been able to figure out is Font
Colors. Many of our documents include Special Font colors to indicate
commands to be typed. In Word 2007 all the preselected colors are
different, so if I add a new line of colored text, I cant get the
exact color to match the rest of the colored text. In the original
document, I did not use a special custom color, just one of the
simple basic colors offered by Word 2002 like "Blue". In Word 2007
there are many more "Blue" options, but none of them match the
orriginal basic Blue from Word 2002.

The last thing I want to do is go through the entire document and
change all the special text to the "New-Blue".

Any Suggestions?

[JCameron]

OK, I did this test:
1. Created a new Document in Word 2002, made some text the standard "Blue".
I also verified that "Blue" is defined as [R:0,G:0,B:255] as Suzanne said it
would be.
2. Saved the document, and Moved it to my Vista Machine and Opened it in
Word 2007.
3. Created a custom color with the definition of [R:0,G:0,B:255], and
created new text of this custom color.

Guess what: the two text colors do not match on the screen nor when printed.

I'm not so worried about why. I just want to "MATCH" the color already used
in the existing document.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word 2003's font color Blue *is* RGB 0, 0, 255; this is still available from
the Font Color dialog in Word 2007 (More Colors), though the "standard
color" labeled Blue in Word 2007 is, as you have said, different.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
That was the first thing I tried. It is not the issue.

I have to match the existing colors in the document which were default
colors provided in Word 2002. The Color "Blue" in the old Word 2002 is
apparently not [Red:0,Green:0,Blue:255].
Additionally, "Blue" is not the only color I need to match. What I would
like is the exact default color palette offered in older versions, but I
know
how likely I am to get that request granted.

I could get by if I could examine the color definitions for existing
colored
text.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Create a custom colour RGB format Red 0 Green 0 Blue 255
The font colour tool will retain that colour as a 'recently used' colour
or
you could save the coloured text as a character style for ease of
re-application.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



JCameron wrote:
"I know Engineers! They love to change things."
Dr. Leonard McCoy - Star Trek, The Motion Picture

Our company is now forcing us to upgrade to Vista. All those problems
aside, it also means we now have to use Word 2007. I am getting the
hang of it, but so much has changed. I'm all in favor of "New
Features", but I need to get work done before I can pick up all the
new stuff.

One problem that I have not yet been able to figure out is Font
Colors. Many of our documents include Special Font colors to indicate
commands to be typed. In Word 2007 all the preselected colors are
different, so if I add a new line of colored text, I cant get the
exact color to match the rest of the colored text. In the original
document, I did not use a special custom color, just one of the
simple basic colors offered by Word 2002 like "Blue". In Word 2007
there are many more "Blue" options, but none of them match the
orriginal basic Blue from Word 2002.

The last thing I want to do is go through the entire document and
change all the special text to the "New-Blue".

Any Suggestions?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Now that *is* intriguing. Obviously the screen display will depend on the
monitor, but are you printing to the same printer?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
OK, I did this test:
1. Created a new Document in Word 2002, made some text the standard
"Blue".
I also verified that "Blue" is defined as [R:0,G:0,B:255] as Suzanne said
it
would be.
2. Saved the document, and Moved it to my Vista Machine and Opened it in
Word 2007.
3. Created a custom color with the definition of [R:0,G:0,B:255], and
created new text of this custom color.

Guess what: the two text colors do not match on the screen nor when
printed.

I'm not so worried about why. I just want to "MATCH" the color already
used
in the existing document.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word 2003's font color Blue *is* RGB 0, 0, 255; this is still available
from
the Font Color dialog in Word 2007 (More Colors), though the "standard
color" labeled Blue in Word 2007 is, as you have said, different.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
That was the first thing I tried. It is not the issue.

I have to match the existing colors in the document which were default
colors provided in Word 2002. The Color "Blue" in the old Word 2002 is
apparently not [Red:0,Green:0,Blue:255].
Additionally, "Blue" is not the only color I need to match. What I
would
like is the exact default color palette offered in older versions, but
I
know
how likely I am to get that request granted.

I could get by if I could examine the color definitions for existing
colored
text.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Create a custom colour RGB format Red 0 Green 0 Blue 255
The font colour tool will retain that colour as a 'recently used'
colour
or
you could save the coloured text as a character style for ease of
re-application.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



JCameron wrote:
"I know Engineers! They love to change things."
Dr. Leonard McCoy - Star Trek, The Motion Picture

Our company is now forcing us to upgrade to Vista. All those
problems
aside, it also means we now have to use Word 2007. I am getting the
hang of it, but so much has changed. I'm all in favor of "New
Features", but I need to get work done before I can pick up all the
new stuff.

One problem that I have not yet been able to figure out is Font
Colors. Many of our documents include Special Font colors to
indicate
commands to be typed. In Word 2007 all the preselected colors are
different, so if I add a new line of colored text, I cant get the
exact color to match the rest of the colored text. In the original
document, I did not use a special custom color, just one of the
simple basic colors offered by Word 2002 like "Blue". In Word 2007
there are many more "Blue" options, but none of them match the
orriginal basic Blue from Word 2002.

The last thing I want to do is go through the entire document and
change all the special text to the "New-Blue".

Any Suggestions?

[JCameron]

Same Printer, Same Monitor. Different PCs (switch Monitor,Keyboard and mouse
with KVM switch). PC1:Win2K/Word2002 PC2:WinVista/Word2007

I am resigning to the fact that I must change all my other text lines in the
"Old" Blue to the "New" Blue. Since once I have the document done in Word
2007, I do not intend to go back to Word 2002, I'll rack this up to another
MS quirk.

Editorial comment: I never have to put up with so many of these "Quirks" on
my MAC.

Thanks for your help.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Now that *is* intriguing. Obviously the screen display will depend on the
monitor, but are you printing to the same printer?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
OK, I did this test:
1. Created a new Document in Word 2002, made some text the standard
"Blue".
I also verified that "Blue" is defined as [R:0,G:0,B:255] as Suzanne said
it
would be.
2. Saved the document, and Moved it to my Vista Machine and Opened it in
Word 2007.
3. Created a custom color with the definition of [R:0,G:0,B:255], and
created new text of this custom color.

Guess what: the two text colors do not match on the screen nor when
printed.

I'm not so worried about why. I just want to "MATCH" the color already
used
in the existing document.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word 2003's font color Blue *is* RGB 0, 0, 255; this is still available
from
the Font Color dialog in Word 2007 (More Colors), though the "standard
color" labeled Blue in Word 2007 is, as you have said, different.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
That was the first thing I tried. It is not the issue.

I have to match the existing colors in the document which were default
colors provided in Word 2002. The Color "Blue" in the old Word 2002 is
apparently not [Red:0,Green:0,Blue:255].
Additionally, "Blue" is not the only color I need to match. What I
would
like is the exact default color palette offered in older versions, but
I
know
how likely I am to get that request granted.

I could get by if I could examine the color definitions for existing
colored
text.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Create a custom colour RGB format Red 0 Green 0 Blue 255
The font colour tool will retain that colour as a 'recently used'
colour
or
you could save the coloured text as a character style for ease of
re-application.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



JCameron wrote:
"I know Engineers! They love to change things."
Dr. Leonard McCoy - Star Trek, The Motion Picture

Our company is now forcing us to upgrade to Vista. All those
problems
aside, it also means we now have to use Word 2007. I am getting the
hang of it, but so much has changed. I'm all in favor of "New
Features", but I need to get work done before I can pick up all the
new stuff.

One problem that I have not yet been able to figure out is Font
Colors. Many of our documents include Special Font colors to
indicate
commands to be typed. In Word 2007 all the preselected colors are
different, so if I add a new line of colored text, I cant get the
exact color to match the rest of the colored text. In the original
document, I did not use a special custom color, just one of the
simple basic colors offered by Word 2002 like "Blue". In Word 2007
there are many more "Blue" options, but none of them match the
orriginal basic Blue from Word 2002.

The last thing I want to do is go through the entire document and
change all the special text to the "New-Blue".

Any Suggestions?

[Jay Freedman]

If I read JCameron's description correctly, it seems both pieces of text are
in the same document. That eliminates screen display and printer driver
differences.

However, I ran the same experiment -- except that I have both versions of
Word on the same computer -- and there is no difference between text
formatted in 2003 with standard Blue and text created in 2007 in the same
document with a custom [R:0,G:0,B:255] color. They look the same, and the
Find function recognizes them both as Blue and selects both pieces of text.

JCameron, I'd be interested to see the document that you moved to 2007. If
you can email it to me, I'll investigate this evening.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Now that *is* intriguing. Obviously the screen display will depend on
the monitor, but are you printing to the same printer?


"JCameron" wrote in message
...
OK, I did this test:
1. Created a new Document in Word 2002, made some text the standard
"Blue".
I also verified that "Blue" is defined as [R:0,G:0,B:255] as Suzanne
said it
would be.
2. Saved the document, and Moved it to my Vista Machine and Opened
it in Word 2007.
3. Created a custom color with the definition of [R:0,G:0,B:255], and
created new text of this custom color.

Guess what: the two text colors do not match on the screen nor when
printed.

I'm not so worried about why. I just want to "MATCH" the color
already used
in the existing document.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word 2003's font color Blue *is* RGB 0, 0, 255; this is still
available from
the Font Color dialog in Word 2007 (More Colors), though the
"standard color" labeled Blue in Word 2007 is, as you have said,
different. --
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
That was the first thing I tried. It is not the issue.

I have to match the existing colors in the document which were
default colors provided in Word 2002. The Color "Blue" in the old
Word 2002 is apparently not [Red:0,Green:0,Blue:255].
Additionally, "Blue" is not the only color I need to match. What I
would
like is the exact default color palette offered in older versions,
but I
know
how likely I am to get that request granted.

I could get by if I could examine the color definitions for
existing colored
text.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Create a custom colour RGB format Red 0 Green 0 Blue 255
The font colour tool will retain that colour as a 'recently used'
colour
or
you could save the coloured text as a character style for ease of
re-application.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



JCameron wrote:
"I know Engineers! They love to change things."
Dr. Leonard McCoy - Star Trek, The Motion Picture

Our company is now forcing us to upgrade to Vista. All those
problems
aside, it also means we now have to use Word 2007. I am getting
the hang of it, but so much has changed. I'm all in favor of "New
Features", but I need to get work done before I can pick up all
the new stuff.

One problem that I have not yet been able to figure out is Font
Colors. Many of our documents include Special Font colors to
indicate
commands to be typed. In Word 2007 all the preselected colors are
different, so if I add a new line of colored text, I cant get the
exact color to match the rest of the colored text. In the
original document, I did not use a special custom color, just
one of the simple basic colors offered by Word 2002 like "Blue".
In Word 2007 there are many more "Blue" options, but none of
them match the orriginal basic Blue from Word 2002.

The last thing I want to do is go through the entire document and
change all the special text to the "New-Blue".

Any Suggestions?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

At least make the new font color part of a paragraph or character style that
you apply to the selected text. Then if you have to change the color again,
you'll only have to change it in the style.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
Same Printer, Same Monitor. Different PCs (switch Monitor,Keyboard and
mouse
with KVM switch). PC1:Win2K/Word2002 PC2:WinVista/Word2007

I am resigning to the fact that I must change all my other text lines in
the
"Old" Blue to the "New" Blue. Since once I have the document done in Word
2007, I do not intend to go back to Word 2002, I'll rack this up to
another
MS quirk.

Editorial comment: I never have to put up with so many of these "Quirks"
on
my MAC.

Thanks for your help.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Now that *is* intriguing. Obviously the screen display will depend on the
monitor, but are you printing to the same printer?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
OK, I did this test:
1. Created a new Document in Word 2002, made some text the standard
"Blue".
I also verified that "Blue" is defined as [R:0,G:0,B:255] as Suzanne
said
it
would be.
2. Saved the document, and Moved it to my Vista Machine and Opened it
in
Word 2007.
3. Created a custom color with the definition of [R:0,G:0,B:255], and
created new text of this custom color.

Guess what: the two text colors do not match on the screen nor when
printed.

I'm not so worried about why. I just want to "MATCH" the color already
used
in the existing document.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word 2003's font color Blue *is* RGB 0, 0, 255; this is still
available
from
the Font Color dialog in Word 2007 (More Colors), though the "standard
color" labeled Blue in Word 2007 is, as you have said, different.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
That was the first thing I tried. It is not the issue.

I have to match the existing colors in the document which were
default
colors provided in Word 2002. The Color "Blue" in the old Word 2002
is
apparently not [Red:0,Green:0,Blue:255].
Additionally, "Blue" is not the only color I need to match. What I
would
like is the exact default color palette offered in older versions,
but
I
know
how likely I am to get that request granted.

I could get by if I could examine the color definitions for existing
colored
text.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Create a custom colour RGB format Red 0 Green 0 Blue 255
The font colour tool will retain that colour as a 'recently used'
colour
or
you could save the coloured text as a character style for ease of
re-application.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



JCameron wrote:
"I know Engineers! They love to change things."
Dr. Leonard McCoy - Star Trek, The Motion Picture

Our company is now forcing us to upgrade to Vista. All those
problems
aside, it also means we now have to use Word 2007. I am getting
the
hang of it, but so much has changed. I'm all in favor of "New
Features", but I need to get work done before I can pick up all
the
new stuff.

One problem that I have not yet been able to figure out is Font
Colors. Many of our documents include Special Font colors to
indicate
commands to be typed. In Word 2007 all the preselected colors are
different, so if I add a new line of colored text, I cant get the
exact color to match the rest of the colored text. In the
original
document, I did not use a special custom color, just one of the
simple basic colors offered by Word 2002 like "Blue". In Word
2007
there are many more "Blue" options, but none of them match the
orriginal basic Blue from Word 2002.

The last thing I want to do is go through the entire document and
change all the special text to the "New-Blue".

Any Suggestions?

[Tony Jollans]

The screentip that says "Blue" is dynamically generated (certainly in 2007).
I don't know the algorithm used but many colours could generate a screentip
saying "Blue".

Select a portion of text in your old blue, and go to the "More Colors"
dialog and switch to the Custom tab. There you will see whatever RGB it is.
Then use this as your new (custom) blue.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

www.WordArticles.com

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
If I read JCameron's description correctly, it seems both pieces of text
are in the same document. That eliminates screen display and printer
driver differences.

However, I ran the same experiment -- except that I have both versions of
Word on the same computer -- and there is no difference between text
formatted in 2003 with standard Blue and text created in 2007 in the same
document with a custom [R:0,G:0,B:255] color. They look the same, and the
Find function recognizes them both as Blue and selects both pieces of
text.

JCameron, I'd be interested to see the document that you moved to 2007. If
you can email it to me, I'll investigate this evening.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so all may benefit.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Now that *is* intriguing. Obviously the screen display will depend on
the monitor, but are you printing to the same printer?


"JCameron" wrote in message
...
OK, I did this test:
1. Created a new Document in Word 2002, made some text the standard
"Blue".
I also verified that "Blue" is defined as [R:0,G:0,B:255] as Suzanne
said it
would be.
2. Saved the document, and Moved it to my Vista Machine and Opened
it in Word 2007.
3. Created a custom color with the definition of [R:0,G:0,B:255], and
created new text of this custom color.

Guess what: the two text colors do not match on the screen nor when
printed.

I'm not so worried about why. I just want to "MATCH" the color
already used
in the existing document.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word 2003's font color Blue *is* RGB 0, 0, 255; this is still
available from
the Font Color dialog in Word 2007 (More Colors), though the
"standard color" labeled Blue in Word 2007 is, as you have said,
different. --
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
That was the first thing I tried. It is not the issue.

I have to match the existing colors in the document which were
default colors provided in Word 2002. The Color "Blue" in the old
Word 2002 is apparently not [Red:0,Green:0,Blue:255].
Additionally, "Blue" is not the only color I need to match. What I
would
like is the exact default color palette offered in older versions,
but I
know
how likely I am to get that request granted.

I could get by if I could examine the color definitions for
existing colored
text.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Create a custom colour RGB format Red 0 Green 0 Blue 255
The font colour tool will retain that colour as a 'recently used'
colour
or
you could save the coloured text as a character style for ease of
re-application.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



JCameron wrote:
"I know Engineers! They love to change things."
Dr. Leonard McCoy - Star Trek, The Motion Picture

Our company is now forcing us to upgrade to Vista. All those
problems
aside, it also means we now have to use Word 2007. I am getting
the hang of it, but so much has changed. I'm all in favor of "New
Features", but I need to get work done before I can pick up all
the new stuff.

One problem that I have not yet been able to figure out is Font
Colors. Many of our documents include Special Font colors to
indicate
commands to be typed. In Word 2007 all the preselected colors are
different, so if I add a new line of colored text, I cant get the
exact color to match the rest of the colored text. In the
original document, I did not use a special custom color, just
one of the simple basic colors offered by Word 2002 like "Blue".
In Word 2007 there are many more "Blue" options, but none of
them match the orriginal basic Blue from Word 2002.

The last thing I want to do is go through the entire document and
change all the special text to the "New-Blue".

Any Suggestions?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

We've already established that the old Blue is 0, 0, 255. The problem is
that JCameron says that 0, 0, 255 is producing a different color in Word
2007.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message
...
The screentip that says "Blue" is dynamically generated (certainly in
2007). I don't know the algorithm used but many colours could generate a
screentip saying "Blue".

Select a portion of text in your old blue, and go to the "More Colors"
dialog and switch to the Custom tab. There you will see whatever RGB it
is. Then use this as your new (custom) blue.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

www.WordArticles.com

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
If I read JCameron's description correctly, it seems both pieces of text
are in the same document. That eliminates screen display and printer
driver differences.

However, I ran the same experiment -- except that I have both versions of
Word on the same computer -- and there is no difference between text
formatted in 2003 with standard Blue and text created in 2007 in the same
document with a custom [R:0,G:0,B:255] color. They look the same, and the
Find function recognizes them both as Blue and selects both pieces of
text.

JCameron, I'd be interested to see the document that you moved to 2007.
If you can email it to me, I'll investigate this evening.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so all may benefit.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Now that *is* intriguing. Obviously the screen display will depend on
the monitor, but are you printing to the same printer?


"JCameron" wrote in message
...
OK, I did this test:
1. Created a new Document in Word 2002, made some text the standard
"Blue".
I also verified that "Blue" is defined as [R:0,G:0,B:255] as Suzanne
said it
would be.
2. Saved the document, and Moved it to my Vista Machine and Opened
it in Word 2007.
3. Created a custom color with the definition of [R:0,G:0,B:255], and
created new text of this custom color.

Guess what: the two text colors do not match on the screen nor when
printed.

I'm not so worried about why. I just want to "MATCH" the color
already used
in the existing document.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word 2003's font color Blue *is* RGB 0, 0, 255; this is still
available from
the Font Color dialog in Word 2007 (More Colors), though the
"standard color" labeled Blue in Word 2007 is, as you have said,
different. --
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
That was the first thing I tried. It is not the issue.

I have to match the existing colors in the document which were
default colors provided in Word 2002. The Color "Blue" in the old
Word 2002 is apparently not [Red:0,Green:0,Blue:255].
Additionally, "Blue" is not the only color I need to match. What I
would
like is the exact default color palette offered in older versions,
but I
know
how likely I am to get that request granted.

I could get by if I could examine the color definitions for
existing colored
text.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Create a custom colour RGB format Red 0 Green 0 Blue 255
The font colour tool will retain that colour as a 'recently used'
colour
or
you could save the coloured text as a character style for ease of
re-application.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



JCameron wrote:
"I know Engineers! They love to change things."
Dr. Leonard McCoy - Star Trek, The Motion Picture

Our company is now forcing us to upgrade to Vista. All those
problems
aside, it also means we now have to use Word 2007. I am getting
the hang of it, but so much has changed. I'm all in favor of "New
Features", but I need to get work done before I can pick up all
the new stuff.

One problem that I have not yet been able to figure out is Font
Colors. Many of our documents include Special Font colors to
indicate
commands to be typed. In Word 2007 all the preselected colors are
different, so if I add a new line of colored text, I cant get the
exact color to match the rest of the colored text. In the
original document, I did not use a special custom color, just
one of the simple basic colors offered by Word 2002 like "Blue".
In Word 2007 there are many more "Blue" options, but none of
them match the orriginal basic Blue from Word 2002.

The last thing I want to do is go through the entire document and
change all the special text to the "New-Blue".

Any Suggestions?

[Graham Mayor]

Hmmm! I have just created a document in Word 2003 with one paragraph
coloured 'blue' (in Word 2003 that's RGB 0,0,255)
I then opened the document in Word 2007 and created a custom colour RGB
0,0,255 and applied it to the second paragraph. The two are
indistinguishable. Which is essentially what I said at the start of the
thread.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
We've already established that the old Blue is 0, 0, 255. The problem
is that JCameron says that 0, 0, 255 is producing a different color
in Word 2007.


"Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message
...
The screentip that says "Blue" is dynamically generated (certainly in
2007). I don't know the algorithm used but many colours could
generate a screentip saying "Blue".

Select a portion of text in your old blue, and go to the "More
Colors" dialog and switch to the Custom tab. There you will see
whatever RGB it is. Then use this as your new (custom) blue.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

www.WordArticles.com

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
If I read JCameron's description correctly, it seems both pieces of
text are in the same document. That eliminates screen display and
printer driver differences.

However, I ran the same experiment -- except that I have both
versions of Word on the same computer -- and there is no difference
between text formatted in 2003 with standard Blue and text created
in 2007 in the same document with a custom [R:0,G:0,B:255] color.
They look the same, and the Find function recognizes them both as
Blue and selects both pieces of text.

JCameron, I'd be interested to see the document that you moved to
2007. If you can email it to me, I'll investigate this evening.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Now that *is* intriguing. Obviously the screen display will depend
on the monitor, but are you printing to the same printer?


"JCameron" wrote in message
...
OK, I did this test:
1. Created a new Document in Word 2002, made some text the
standard "Blue".
I also verified that "Blue" is defined as [R:0,G:0,B:255] as
Suzanne said it
would be.
2. Saved the document, and Moved it to my Vista Machine and Opened
it in Word 2007.
3. Created a custom color with the definition of [R:0,G:0,B:255],
and created new text of this custom color.

Guess what: the two text colors do not match on the screen nor
when printed.

I'm not so worried about why. I just want to "MATCH" the color
already used
in the existing document.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word 2003's font color Blue *is* RGB 0, 0, 255; this is still
available from
the Font Color dialog in Word 2007 (More Colors), though the
"standard color" labeled Blue in Word 2007 is, as you have said,
different. --
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
That was the first thing I tried. It is not the issue.

I have to match the existing colors in the document which were
default colors provided in Word 2002. The Color "Blue" in the
old Word 2002 is apparently not [Red:0,Green:0,Blue:255].
Additionally, "Blue" is not the only color I need to match.
What I would
like is the exact default color palette offered in older
versions, but I
know
how likely I am to get that request granted.

I could get by if I could examine the color definitions for
existing colored
text.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Create a custom colour RGB format Red 0 Green 0 Blue 255
The font colour tool will retain that colour as a 'recently
used' colour
or
you could save the coloured text as a character style for ease
of re-application.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



JCameron wrote:
"I know Engineers! They love to change things."
Dr. Leonard McCoy - Star Trek, The Motion Picture

Our company is now forcing us to upgrade to Vista. All those
problems
aside, it also means we now have to use Word 2007. I am
getting the hang of it, but so much has changed. I'm all in
favor of "New Features", but I need to get work done before I
can pick up all the new stuff.

One problem that I have not yet been able to figure out is
Font Colors. Many of our documents include Special Font
colors to indicate
commands to be typed. In Word 2007 all the preselected colors
are different, so if I add a new line of colored text, I cant
get the exact color to match the rest of the colored text. In
the original document, I did not use a special custom color,
just one of the simple basic colors offered by Word 2002 like
"Blue". In Word 2007 there are many more "Blue" options, but
none of them match the orriginal basic Blue from Word 2002.

The last thing I want to do is go through the entire document
and change all the special text to the "New-Blue".

Any Suggestions?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

All I can say is that JCameron claims to be experiencing different results.

Guess what: the two text colors do not match on the screen nor
when printed.

The fact that this can be seen on the printout as well as on the display is
significant; I point this out because I noticed the other day that, although
I had applied exactly the same color to two paragraphs in a document, they
appeared different on the screen. I found that I could change the color by
scrolling up and down. Apparently the color appeared a little different at
the top of the screen than at the bottom. Go figure.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Hmmm! I have just created a document in Word 2003 with one paragraph
coloured 'blue' (in Word 2003 that's RGB 0,0,255)
I then opened the document in Word 2007 and created a custom colour RGB
0,0,255 and applied it to the second paragraph. The two are
indistinguishable. Which is essentially what I said at the start of the
thread.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
We've already established that the old Blue is 0, 0, 255. The problem
is that JCameron says that 0, 0, 255 is producing a different color
in Word 2007.


"Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message
...
The screentip that says "Blue" is dynamically generated (certainly in
2007). I don't know the algorithm used but many colours could
generate a screentip saying "Blue".

Select a portion of text in your old blue, and go to the "More
Colors" dialog and switch to the Custom tab. There you will see
whatever RGB it is. Then use this as your new (custom) blue.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

www.WordArticles.com

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
If I read JCameron's description correctly, it seems both pieces of
text are in the same document. That eliminates screen display and
printer driver differences.

However, I ran the same experiment -- except that I have both
versions of Word on the same computer -- and there is no difference
between text formatted in 2003 with standard Blue and text created
in 2007 in the same document with a custom [R:0,G:0,B:255] color.
They look the same, and the Find function recognizes them both as
Blue and selects both pieces of text.

JCameron, I'd be interested to see the document that you moved to
2007. If you can email it to me, I'll investigate this evening.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Now that *is* intriguing. Obviously the screen display will depend
on the monitor, but are you printing to the same printer?


"JCameron" wrote in message
...
OK, I did this test:
1. Created a new Document in Word 2002, made some text the
standard "Blue".
I also verified that "Blue" is defined as [R:0,G:0,B:255] as
Suzanne said it
would be.
2. Saved the document, and Moved it to my Vista Machine and Opened
it in Word 2007.
3. Created a custom color with the definition of [R:0,G:0,B:255],
and created new text of this custom color.

Guess what: the two text colors do not match on the screen nor
when printed.

I'm not so worried about why. I just want to "MATCH" the color
already used
in the existing document.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Word 2003's font color Blue *is* RGB 0, 0, 255; this is still
available from
the Font Color dialog in Word 2007 (More Colors), though the
"standard color" labeled Blue in Word 2007 is, as you have said,
different. --
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JCameron" wrote in message
...
That was the first thing I tried. It is not the issue.

I have to match the existing colors in the document which were
default colors provided in Word 2002. The Color "Blue" in the
old Word 2002 is apparently not [Red:0,Green:0,Blue:255].
Additionally, "Blue" is not the only color I need to match.
What I would
like is the exact default color palette offered in older
versions, but I
know
how likely I am to get that request granted.

I could get by if I could examine the color definitions for
existing colored
text.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Create a custom colour RGB format Red 0 Green 0 Blue 255
The font colour tool will retain that colour as a 'recently
used' colour
or
you could save the coloured text as a character style for ease
of re-application.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



JCameron wrote:
"I know Engineers! They love to change things."
Dr. Leonard McCoy - Star Trek, The Motion Picture

Our company is now forcing us to upgrade to Vista. All those
problems
aside, it also means we now have to use Word 2007. I am
getting the hang of it, but so much has changed. I'm all in
favor of "New Features", but I need to get work done before I
can pick up all the new stuff.

One problem that I have not yet been able to figure out is
Font Colors. Many of our documents include Special Font
colors to indicate
commands to be typed. In Word 2007 all the preselected colors
are different, so if I add a new line of colored text, I cant
get the exact color to match the rest of the colored text. In
the original document, I did not use a special custom color,
just one of the simple basic colors offered by Word 2002 like
"Blue". In Word 2007 there are many more "Blue" options, but
none of them match the orriginal basic Blue from Word 2002.

The last thing I want to do is go through the entire document
and change all the special text to the "New-Blue".

Any Suggestions?

[PamC via OfficeKB.com]

JCameron wrote:
Guess what: the two text colors do not match on the screen nor when printed.

I'm not so worried about why. I just want to "MATCH" the color already used
in the existing document.

If factors that could give the appearance of a different color (such as font,
size, boldness) are involved, then in W2007, they must have different rgb
values. Check the values for the former W2002 text after it has been
brought into W2007. (Click in the colored text. Then click Home ribbon Font
group arrow next to the font group icon More colors Custom.) If the
rgb values are not 0,0,255, note them and change the values in your custom
color to match what you found.

If you have several colors to match, in W2003 make a two column table with as
many rows as you have colors to match. Fill the first cell in each row with
a color. Save the file in W2003 then open it as a W2007 file. Press shft+F1
to open the reveal formatting pane, and place the cursor in a filled cell.
The rgb values will appear in the cell section of the pane.

HTH,
PamC

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