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Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written
by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. |
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On Aug 31, 2:43*pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro....public.word.* You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. |
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BTW, I would have sent this information to you privately had you not
adopted the inane practice of ignoring messages from me. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. -- Greg Maxey - Word MVP My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org |
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Surely his nose-less face must feel thoroughly spited by now... ;-D
-- Cheers! Gordon Bentley-Mix Word MVP Please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup. Read the original version of this post in the Office Discussion Groups - no membership required! "Greg Maxey" wrote: BTW, I would have sent this information to you privately had you not adopted the inane practice of ignoring messages from me. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. -- Greg Maxey - Word MVP My web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org |
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On Aug 31, 3:19*pm, Greg Maxey wrote:
On Aug 31, 2:43*pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back. |
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Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who
are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back. |
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I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button,
following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.- |
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Correction:
I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10*am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br.... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.-- |
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Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane
practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.-- -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft
\Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C  \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. On Sep 1, 4:27*pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? *What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. *Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br.... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.-- |
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So when you need another fish you set aside your inane practice of ignoring
my messages? I guess if a fellow gets hungry enough and refuses to learn to fish then he'll do just about anything. It appears that you have cried wolf in the crowded theatre and sounded alarm bells about unexplainable issues with the Ribbon and SP2. From the very beginning I told you to put the customization template in your Word Startup Folder. Here is the exact text of my e-mail on 8 December 2008: "Peter Put the attached tempalte in your Word startup folder" If you didn't put it there, then I don't know exactly what you have done over the last 8 months if your enhanced Ribbon has ever functioned. Are you 100% sure that this issue began precisely when you installed SP2 or could it have happened when you started monkeying around with your template files by pasting a certain path to a certain window IAW certain instructions provided by you an unknown person that might have been Jay Freedman? The series of test that you enumerated below all performed exactly as expected. If the template isn't loaded in the templates collection then the customization it contains will not be presented. A template is loaded in the templates collection when you open the template and it is loaded when you open a document based on the template. Templates used for things like Ribbon customization are intended to be used as Template AddIns. That is you don't normally open them and you don't normally based new documents on them. Instead you: 1. Store them in your Word Startup folder so that they load automatically when Word starts. 2. Store the template elsewhere and load them manually using DeveloperTemplatesDocument TemplatesTemplates then in the Global Templates and Addins window (check the template if listed or click add if not list). All this is explained in the link "Organizing Your Macros" at my http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_Ribbon.htm. However, seeing as you have shown so much contempt and scorn for that article it is perfectly undertandable that you are here asking for another fish. You can determine your Word Startup path by OfficeWord OptionsAdvancedGeneralClick "File Locations and record the path listed for "Startup" Cheers, Peter T. Daniels wrote: All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. On Sep 1, 4:27 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.-- -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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The Templates folder is for document templates. Any customizations in a
template there will be seen only when you are working in a document based on that template. Since the template Greg supplied is not a document template, you're seeing the customizations only when you open the template itself. If you want customizations in a template to be "global" (available to all documents), you have to put the template in Word's Startup folder. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. On Sep 1, 4:27 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.-- |
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Except that it's been working perfectly for nine months, placed in the
folder that Jay's abbreviated pathname sent me to. By "Word Startup folder," do you mean ...\Office12\STARTUP? I find no folders that could be Word-specific. On Sep 1, 6:56*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The Templates folder is for document templates. Any customizations in a template there will be seen only when you are working in a document based on that template. Since the template Greg supplied is not a document template, you're seeing the customizations only when you open the template itself. If you want customizations in a template to be "global" (available to all documents), you have to put the template in Word's Startup folder. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. On Sep 1, 4:27 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.--- |
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No, that's the Office Startup folder. The one for Word is going to be along
the lines of C:\Documents and Settings\Suzanne\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP (with allowances for your profile name and whatever Vista does differently from Windows XP). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... Except that it's been working perfectly for nine months, placed in the folder that Jay's abbreviated pathname sent me to. By "Word Startup folder," do you mean ...\Office12\STARTUP? I find no folders that could be Word-specific. On Sep 1, 6:56 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The Templates folder is for document templates. Any customizations in a template there will be seen only when you are working in a document based on that template. Since the template Greg supplied is not a document template, you're seeing the customizations only when you open the template itself. If you want customizations in a template to be "global" (available to all documents), you have to put the template in Word's Startup folder. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. On Sep 1, 4:27 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.--- |
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....seems to be ignoring my posts again. You might suggest:
You can determine your Word Startup path by OfficeWord OptionsAdvancedGeneralClick "File Locations and record the path listed for "Startup" -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... No, that's the Office Startup folder. The one for Word is going to be along the lines of C:\Documents and Settings\Suzanne\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP (with allowances for your profile name and whatever Vista does differently from Windows XP). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... Except that it's been working perfectly for nine months, placed in the folder that Jay's abbreviated pathname sent me to. By "Word Startup folder," do you mean ...\Office12\STARTUP? I find no folders that could be Word-specific. On Sep 1, 6:56 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The Templates folder is for document templates. Any customizations in a template there will be seen only when you are working in a document based on that template. Since the template Greg supplied is not a document template, you're seeing the customizations only when you open the template itself. If you want customizations in a template to be "global" (available to all documents), you have to put the template in Word's Startup folder. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. On Sep 1, 4:27 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.--- |
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On Sep 2, 12:52*am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote: ...seems to be ignoring my posts again. You might suggest: You can determine your Word Startup path by OfficeWord OptionsAdvancedGeneralClick "File Locations and record the path listed for "Startup" The path goes ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP. There is a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template (and of the old normal.dot) in that folder, and double-clicking it yields a Document 1 showing the added button. The normal.dotm template containing Graham's macros for opening a file at the last editing point is in the Office12\STARTUP folder (along with a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template) and works properly. Could it be that the problem is having a copy in each location? -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in l... No, that's the Office Startup folder. The one for Word is going to be along the lines of C:\Documents and Settings\Suzanne\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP (with allowances for your profile name and whatever Vista does differently from Windows XP). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... Except that it's been working perfectly for nine months, placed in the folder that Jay's abbreviated pathname sent me to. By "Word Startup folder," do you mean ...\Office12\STARTUP? I find no folders that could be Word-specific. On Sep 1, 6:56 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The Templates folder is for document templates. Any customizations in a template there will be seen only when you are working in a document based on that template. Since the template Greg supplied is not a document template, you're seeing the customizations only when you open the template itself. If you want customizations in a template to be "global" (available to all documents), you have to put the template in Word's Startup folder. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. On Sep 1, 4:27 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.---- |
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Thanks, Greg. I had an idea it might be one of the things listed there but
was too lazy (or too rushed) to check. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Greg Maxey" wrote in message ... ...seems to be ignoring my posts again. You might suggest: You can determine your Word Startup path by OfficeWord OptionsAdvancedGeneralClick "File Locations and record the path listed for "Startup" -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... No, that's the Office Startup folder. The one for Word is going to be along the lines of C:\Documents and Settings\Suzanne\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP (with allowances for your profile name and whatever Vista does differently from Windows XP). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... Except that it's been working perfectly for nine months, placed in the folder that Jay's abbreviated pathname sent me to. By "Word Startup folder," do you mean ...\Office12\STARTUP? I find no folders that could be Word-specific. On Sep 1, 6:56 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The Templates folder is for document templates. Any customizations in a template there will be seen only when you are working in a document based on that template. Since the template Greg supplied is not a document template, you're seeing the customizations only when you open the template itself. If you want customizations in a template to be "global" (available to all documents), you have to put the template in Word's Startup folder. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. On Sep 1, 4:27 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.--- |
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You shouldn't have a copy of Normal.dotm in Startup or anywhere other than
Templates. Also, I don't know about Word 2007, but in Word 2003 the Office Startup folder is not a trusted location. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... On Sep 2, 12:52 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: ...seems to be ignoring my posts again. You might suggest: You can determine your Word Startup path by OfficeWord OptionsAdvancedGeneralClick "File Locations and record the path listed for "Startup" The path goes ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP. There is a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template (and of the old normal.dot) in that folder, and double-clicking it yields a Document 1 showing the added button. The normal.dotm template containing Graham's macros for opening a file at the last editing point is in the Office12\STARTUP folder (along with a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template) and works properly. Could it be that the problem is having a copy in each location? -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in l... No, that's the Office Startup folder. The one for Word is going to be along the lines of C:\Documents and Settings\Suzanne\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP (with allowances for your profile name and whatever Vista does differently from Windows XP). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... Except that it's been working perfectly for nine months, placed in the folder that Jay's abbreviated pathname sent me to. By "Word Startup folder," do you mean ...\Office12\STARTUP? I find no folders that could be Word-specific. On Sep 1, 6:56 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The Templates folder is for document templates. Any customizations in a template there will be seen only when you are working in a document based on that template. Since the template Greg supplied is not a document template, you're seeing the customizations only when you open the template itself. If you want customizations in a template to be "global" (available to all documents), you have to put the template in Word's Startup folder. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. On Sep 1, 4:27 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.---- |
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Keeping in mind that I am a mere autodidact, I can say for sure what your template problem is, but I feel pretty sure that it is not caused be SP2 or some malfuntioning of the RibbonXML in the template your have. Start Word. Click the Developer TabTemplatesDocument TemplateTemplates. In the window "Checked items are currently loaded" do you see your template for customizing the ribbon? If so, is it checked? I suspect the answer to both questions is no. Is it listed? If so, check it. Does the ribbon now display the customized ribbon? If yes then you will simply need to determine what is in fact your Word\Startup path and place the template in that directory. Are any items checked? If so then look at the "Full Path" line at the bottom of the dialog and see if you can determine the path. That well could be your Startup path. I don't know what you have done wrt to Normal.dotm. You should only have one and is should be in your User Templates path not Startup. Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Sep 2, 12:52 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: ...seems to be ignoring my posts again. You might suggest: You can determine your Word Startup path by OfficeWord OptionsAdvancedGeneralClick "File Locations and record the path listed for "Startup" The path goes ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP. There is a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template (and of the old normal.dot) in that folder, and double-clicking it yields a Document 1 showing the added button. The normal.dotm template containing Graham's macros for opening a file at the last editing point is in the Office12\STARTUP folder (along with a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template) and works properly. Could it be that the problem is having a copy in each location? -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in l... No, that's the Office Startup folder. The one for Word is going to be along the lines of C:\Documents and Settings\Suzanne\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP (with allowances for your profile name and whatever Vista does differently from Windows XP). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... Except that it's been working perfectly for nine months, placed in the folder that Jay's abbreviated pathname sent me to. By "Word Startup folder," do you mean ...\Office12\STARTUP? I find no folders that could be Word-specific. On Sep 1, 6:56 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The Templates folder is for document templates. Any customizations in a template there will be seen only when you are working in a document based on that template. Since the template Greg supplied is not a document template, you're seeing the customizations only when you open the template itself. If you want customizations in a template to be "global" (available to all documents), you have to put the template in Word's Startup folder. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. On Sep 1, 4:27 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.---- -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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"can't" say for sure. Greg Maxey wrote: Peter, Keeping in mind that I am a mere autodidact, I can say for sure what your template problem is, but I feel pretty sure that it is not caused be SP2 or some malfuntioning of the RibbonXML in the template your have. Start Word. Click the Developer TabTemplatesDocument TemplateTemplates. In the window "Checked items are currently loaded" do you see your template for customizing the ribbon? If so, is it checked? I suspect the answer to both questions is no. Is it listed? If so, check it. Does the ribbon now display the customized ribbon? If yes then you will simply need to determine what is in fact your Word\Startup path and place the template in that directory. Are any items checked? If so then look at the "Full Path" line at the bottom of the dialog and see if you can determine the path. That well could be your Startup path. I don't know what you have done wrt to Normal.dotm. You should only have one and is should be in your User Templates path not Startup. Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Sep 2, 12:52 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: ...seems to be ignoring my posts again. You might suggest: You can determine your Word Startup path by OfficeWord OptionsAdvancedGeneralClick "File Locations and record the path listed for "Startup" The path goes ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP. There is a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template (and of the old normal.dot) in that folder, and double-clicking it yields a Document 1 showing the added button. The normal.dotm template containing Graham's macros for opening a file at the last editing point is in the Office12\STARTUP folder (along with a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template) and works properly. Could it be that the problem is having a copy in each location? -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in l... No, that's the Office Startup folder. The one for Word is going to be along the lines of C:\Documents and Settings\Suzanne\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP (with allowances for your profile name and whatever Vista does differently from Windows XP). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... Except that it's been working perfectly for nine months, placed in the folder that Jay's abbreviated pathname sent me to. By "Word Startup folder," do you mean ...\Office12\STARTUP? I find no folders that could be Word-specific. On Sep 1, 6:56 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The Templates folder is for document templates. Any customizations in a template there will be seen only when you are working in a document based on that template. Since the template Greg supplied is not a document template, you're seeing the customizations only when you open the template itself. If you want customizations in a template to be "global" (available to all documents), you have to put the template in Word's Startup folder. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. On Sep 1, 4:27 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.---- -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. |
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On Sep 2, 8:53*am, "Greg Maxey"
wrote: Peter, Keeping in mind that I am a mere autodidact, I can say for sure what your template problem is, but I feel pretty sure that it is not caused be SP2 or some malfuntioning of the RibbonXML in the template your have. Start Word. *Click the Developer TabTemplatesDocument TemplateTemplates. In the window "Checked items are currently loaded" do you see your template for customizing the ribbon? *If so, is it checked? Yes, it's there, along with normal.dot (the other one that's in the Word Startup folder) and, bizarrely, a snagit template, which is in a snagit folder left over from when I did the month's free trial of snagit, quite a while ago. I suspect the answer to both questions is no. The only one of the three that was checked was the snagit template. Is it listed? *If so, check it. *Does the ribbon now display the customized ribbon? I checked it, and the customized ribbon did display. If yes then you will simply need to determine what is in fact your Word\Startup path and place the template in that directory. The template is in that directory. Presumably that's why it appears in that window. The template was unchecked. Are any items checked? *If so then look at the "Full Path" line at the bottom of the dialog and see if you can determine the path. *That well could be your Startup path. The path for the one that was checked was to a snagit folder. (I unchecked the snagit template, since snagit didn't consistently do what it was needed to do at the time so I didn't buy it.) This suggests that there is some way of telling Word to load a template upon opening, independent of the folder it's located in. I don't know what you have done wrt to Normal.dotm. *You should only have one and is should be in your User Templates path not Startup. I have only one normal.dotm, and it's in the Peter\AppData\Roaming \Microsoft\Templates folder (along with a second copy of Table Menu Layout.dotm, which is the name you gave the template you sent me).. Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Sep 2, 12:52 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: ...seems to be ignoring my posts again. You might suggest: You can determine your Word Startup path by OfficeWord OptionsAdvancedGeneralClick "File Locations and record the path listed for "Startup" The path goes ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP. There is a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template (and of the old normal.dot) in that folder, and double-clicking it yields a Document 1 showing the added button. The normal.dotm template containing Graham's macros for opening a file at the last editing point is in the Office12\STARTUP folder (along with a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template) and works properly. Could it be that the problem is having a copy in each location? -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in l... No, that's the Office Startup folder. The one for Word is going to be along the lines of C:\Documents and Settings\Suzanne\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP (with allowances for your profile name and whatever Vista does differently from Windows XP). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message .... Except that it's been working perfectly for nine months, placed in the folder that Jay's abbreviated pathname sent me to. By "Word Startup folder," do you mean ...\Office12\STARTUP? I find no folders that could be Word-specific. On Sep 1, 6:56 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The Templates folder is for document templates. Any customizations in a template there will be seen only when you are working in a document based on that template. Since the template Greg supplied is not a document template, you're seeing the customizations only when you open the template itself. If you want customizations in a template to be "global" (available to all documents), you have to put the template in Word's Startup folder. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. On Sep 1, 4:27 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.---- |
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Here's what I would do:
First, rename the Normal template in your Office12\STARTUP folder to something other than Normal.dotm or Normal.dot. Whatever it's named, use something other than Normal. It might be a good idea to use a name that describes its function. Otherwise it can cause confusion - Word could be confused and we're obviously confused about it. ;-) Then, move both templates in your Office12\STARTUP to your Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP folder if this is indeed the location set in Word Options, File Locations.* I'd also perform a search for the template Greg gave you. You may have changed the location for your Word Startup folder (I'm wondering if you pointed it to your User Templates folder) and the SP2 patch changed the location of your Word Startup folder back to the default since your Word Startup folder shouldn't point to the same location as your User Templates. I'm not certain this happened, of course, but based on what you've described it's something along these lines. *The default location of your Startup folder can be changed and pointed to any folder. IOW, just because you have a STARTUP folder in Roaming\Microsoft\Word that doesn't mean Word still recognizes it as your Startup folder. The only way to determine this for sure is to check your File Locations as Greg described. If the templates are in the location you have set for your Startup folder then when you view the Templates and Add-ins dialog box they should be selected since Word automatically loads add-ins in your Startup folder. If they aren't selected then it indicates they were loaded at one time but they are no longer being loaded when Word starts. There is automatic loading and manual loading for global templates. Manual is when you use the Templates and Add-ins dialog box to load a template and it is loaded only for your current Word session and it will not be loaded the next time Word starts. Automatic is when Word loads templates from your Startup folder. Also, in regards to the SnagIt add-in, the developers are manually loading their template via a macro which why you see a different location for it. The creators of SnagIt use this method to provide the UI for their add-in. They use a COM Add-in for the automation and it loads the template. If it's selected then deselecting only unloads it for your current Word session. The next time you start Word it will be loaded again. To disable the SnagIt add-in: - Click the Office Button - Click Word Options - Click Add-ins - In the Mange drop down at the bottom, select COM Add-ins if necessary - Click Go - In the resulting dialog box, disable the SnagIt add-in to unload it and prevent it from loading the next time Word starts. ~Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... On Sep 2, 8:53 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Peter, Keeping in mind that I am a mere autodidact, I can say for sure what your template problem is, but I feel pretty sure that it is not caused be SP2 or some malfuntioning of the RibbonXML in the template your have. Start Word. Click the Developer TabTemplatesDocument TemplateTemplates. In the window "Checked items are currently loaded" do you see your template for customizing the ribbon? If so, is it checked? Yes, it's there, along with normal.dot (the other one that's in the Word Startup folder) and, bizarrely, a snagit template, which is in a snagit folder left over from when I did the month's free trial of snagit, quite a while ago. I suspect the answer to both questions is no. The only one of the three that was checked was the snagit template. Is it listed? If so, check it. Does the ribbon now display the customized ribbon? I checked it, and the customized ribbon did display. If yes then you will simply need to determine what is in fact your Word\Startup path and place the template in that directory. The template is in that directory. Presumably that's why it appears in that window. The template was unchecked. Are any items checked? If so then look at the "Full Path" line at the bottom of the dialog and see if you can determine the path. That well could be your Startup path. The path for the one that was checked was to a snagit folder. (I unchecked the snagit template, since snagit didn't consistently do what it was needed to do at the time so I didn't buy it.) This suggests that there is some way of telling Word to load a template upon opening, independent of the folder it's located in. I don't know what you have done wrt to Normal.dotm. You should only have one and is should be in your User Templates path not Startup. I have only one normal.dotm, and it's in the Peter\AppData\Roaming \Microsoft\Templates folder (along with a second copy of Table Menu Layout.dotm, which is the name you gave the template you sent me).. Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Sep 2, 12:52 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: ...seems to be ignoring my posts again. You might suggest: You can determine your Word Startup path by OfficeWord OptionsAdvancedGeneralClick "File Locations and record the path listed for "Startup" The path goes ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP. There is a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template (and of the old normal.dot) in that folder, and double-clicking it yields a Document 1 showing the added button. The normal.dotm template containing Graham's macros for opening a file at the last editing point is in the Office12\STARTUP folder (along with a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template) and works properly. Could it be that the problem is having a copy in each location? -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in l... No, that's the Office Startup folder. The one for Word is going to be along the lines of C:\Documents and Settings\Suzanne\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP (with allowances for your profile name and whatever Vista does differently from Windows XP). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... Except that it's been working perfectly for nine months, placed in the folder that Jay's abbreviated pathname sent me to. By "Word Startup folder," do you mean ...\Office12\STARTUP? I find no folders that could be Word-specific. On Sep 1, 6:56 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The Templates folder is for document templates. Any customizations in a template there will be seen only when you are working in a document based on that template. Since the template Greg supplied is not a document template, you're seeing the customizations only when you open the template itself. If you want customizations in a template to be "global" (available to all documents), you have to put the template in Word's Startup folder. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. On Sep 1, 4:27 pm, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Conceding that you may not see this reply since you adopted the inane practice of ignoring my messages, I'll asked anyway - Before anyone goes off rushing to the conclusion that there is something amiss with Office SP2 or any particular version of the CustomUI editor, can you confirm that the copy of the template that I sent you in December 2008 is in fact located in your Word Startup Folder? What happens if you simply open the template? I also have SP2 installed. Using the very same template that I sent to you (pulled from the archive in my e-mail) and placed in my Startup folder results in the cell borders control being added to the "Cell Size" group on the Table Layout tab exactly where you asked for it to be added. Peter T. Daniels wrote: Correction: I realized that the fact that the template is signed suggests that in December 2008 I did _not_ follow Graham's instructions using Greg's code, and sure enough, in my email was the template sent to me by Greg. So I replaced the copy of the template that was in the folder with the one attached to the email, and the added button still does not appear upon opening Word. I conclude that something over the last nine months has changed the way Ribbon customization works. On Sep 1, 11:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: I spent more than an hour this morning trying to reinstall the button, following Graham's instructions and using Greg's code (indeed the template that formerly contained the amendment, created for the purpose, is still signed "Gregory K. Maxey"), and it has not worked. Is it possible that something in Office SP2 changed the structure of the Ribbon in such a way that the "pre-release" version of the UI Editor referenced in Graham's instructions (downloaded anew today) no longer works? On Sep 1, 8:14 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Others have commented that something dire is going on at Google; people who are looking for their posting history have found it totally missing and only gradually coming back. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Aug 31, 3:19 pm, Greg Maxey wrote: On Aug 31, 2:43 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: Thanks, apparently, to Office SP2, the ribbon customization written by, I believe, Greg Maxey for putting the Table Borders button in the Tables Layout tab is gone. Google groups search seems not to be searching more than about five weeks back. Can someone find the thread in which the code and instructions were published? Thank you. The whole exchange, which fully illustrates your mule headedness about learning anything new is contained he http://groups.google.com/group/micro...cmanagement/br... You should learn to fish instead of losing fish already given to you and asking for another one. Thank you. A number of weeks ago I asked about the pros and cons of installing Office SP2, and no one answered. A con, we now know, is that it wipes out any Ribbon customization. And I do not know why google groups search no longer looks more than about six weeks back.---- |
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This seems to have worked.
(1) In the ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates folder, I renamed normal.dotm to EditPoint.dotm (it changed from normal.dotx to normal.dotm when I installed Graham's macros, which have worked fine all along). (2) I moved EditPoint.dotm to the ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP folder (I didn't move Table Menu Layout.dotm, because there was already a copy in this folder.) (3) I didn't have instructions about determining the path to the Startup folder, so I simply opened Word. In Developer Templates, both EditPoint and Table Menu Layout are listed and checked. (So is normal.dot, which is my old Word2003 template with the dozens of keyboard shortcuts. I may not need that any more, because I may have had to recreate all of them because of the specific-font settings that many of them had, and they save to normal.dotm.) (4) A new normal.dotm appeared in the \Templates folder. Presumably the keyboard shortcuts still exist, in the one that was renamed to EditPoint. (When I create new ones, should I save them to normal.dotm, which is the default location, or should I save them to EditPoint to keep them all together?) So everything seems to be back to normal, though the only real change that seems to have been made was getting a new normal.dotm. Thank you! (5) However, I couldn't uncheck or delete the SnagIt add-in, because Word says the Administrator has to do that. Windows knows that I'm the Administrator (when it shows that dialog, it next simply gives me the box to click the OK in). How do I tell Word that I'm the Administrator? On Sep 2, 10:11*am, "Beth Melton" wrote: Here's what I would do: First, rename the Normal template in your Office12\STARTUP folder to something other than Normal.dotm or Normal.dot. *Whatever it's named, use something other than Normal. It might be a good idea to use a name that describes its function. Otherwise it can cause confusion - Word could be confused and we're obviously confused about it. ;-) Then, move both templates in your Office12\STARTUP to your Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP folder if this is indeed the location set in Word Options, File Locations.* I'd also perform a search for the template Greg gave you. You may have changed the location for your Word Startup folder (I'm wondering if you pointed it to your User Templates folder) and the SP2 patch changed the location of your Word Startup folder back to the default since your Word Startup folder shouldn't point to the same location as your User Templates. I'm not certain this happened, of course, but based on what you've described it's something along these lines. *The default location of your Startup folder can be changed and pointed to any folder. IOW, just because you have a STARTUP folder in Roaming\Microsoft\Word that doesn't mean Word still recognizes it as your Startup folder. The only way to determine this for sure is to check your File Locations as Greg described. If the templates are in the location you have set for your Startup folder then when you view the Templates and Add-ins dialog box they should be selected since Word automatically loads add-ins in your Startup folder. If they aren't selected then it indicates they were loaded at one time but they are no longer being loaded when Word starts. There is automatic loading and manual loading for global templates. Manual is when you use the Templates and Add-ins dialog box to load a template and it is loaded only for your current Word session and it will not be loaded the next time Word starts. Automatic is when Word loads templates from your Startup folder. Also, in regards to the SnagIt add-in, the developers are manually loading their template via a macro which why you see a different location for it. The creators of SnagIt use this method to provide the UI for their add-in.. They use a COM Add-in for the automation and it loads the template. If it's selected then deselecting only unloads it for your current Word session. The next time you start Word it will be loaded again. To disable the SnagIt add-in: - Click the Office Button - Click Word Options - Click Add-ins - In the Mange drop down at the bottom, select COM Add-ins if necessary - Click Go - In the resulting dialog box, disable the SnagIt add-in to unload it and prevent it from loading the next time Word starts. ~Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Sep 2, 8:53 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Peter, Keeping in mind that I am a mere autodidact, I can say for sure what your template problem is, but I feel pretty sure that it is not caused be SP2 or some malfuntioning of the RibbonXML in the template your have. Start Word. *Click the Developer TabTemplatesDocument TemplateTemplates. In the window "Checked items are currently loaded" do you see your template for customizing the ribbon? *If so, is it checked? Yes, it's there, along with normal.dot (the other one that's in the Word Startup folder) and, bizarrely, a snagit template, which is in a snagit folder left over from when I did the month's free trial of snagit, quite a while ago. I suspect the answer to both questions is no. The only one of the three that was checked was the snagit template. Is it listed? *If so, check it. *Does the ribbon now display the customized ribbon? I checked it, and the customized ribbon did display. If yes then you will simply need to determine what is in fact your Word\Startup path and place the template in that directory. The template is in that directory. Presumably that's why it appears in that window. The template was unchecked. Are any items checked? *If so then look at the "Full Path" line at the bottom of the dialog and see if you can determine the path. *That well could be your Startup path. The path for the one that was checked was to a snagit folder. (I unchecked the snagit template, since snagit didn't consistently do what it was needed to do at the time so I didn't buy it.) This suggests that there is some way of telling Word to load a template upon opening, independent of the folder it's located in. I don't know what you have done wrt to Normal.dotm. *You should only have one and is should be in your User Templates path not Startup. I have only one normal.dotm, and it's in the Peter\AppData\Roaming \Microsoft\Templates folder (along with a second copy of Table Menu Layout.dotm, which is the name you gave the template you sent me).. Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Sep 2, 12:52 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: ...seems to be ignoring my posts again. You might suggest: You can determine your Word Startup path by OfficeWord OptionsAdvancedGeneralClick "File Locations and record the path listed for "Startup" The path goes ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP. There is a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template (and of the old normal.dot) in that folder, and double-clicking it yields a Document 1 showing the added button. The normal.dotm template containing Graham's macros for opening a file at the last editing point is in the Office12\STARTUP folder (along with a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template) and works properly. Could it be that the problem is having a copy in each location? -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in l... No, that's the Office Startup folder. The one for Word is going to be along the lines of C:\Documents and Settings\Suzanne\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP (with allowances for your profile name and whatever Vista does differently from Windows XP). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... Except that it's been working perfectly for nine months, placed in the folder that Jay's abbreviated pathname sent me to. By "Word Startup folder," do you mean ...\Office12\STARTUP? I find no folders that could be Word-specific. On Sep 1, 6:56 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The Templates folder is for document templates. Any customizations in a template there will be seen only when you are working in a document based on that template. Since the template Greg supplied is not a document template, you're seeing the customizations only when you open the template itself. If you want customizations in a template to be "global" (available to all documents), you have to put the template in Word's Startup folder. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. |
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... This seems to have worked. (1) In the ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates folder, I renamed normal.dotm to EditPoint.dotm (it changed from normal.dotx to normal.dotm when I installed Graham's macros, which have worked fine all along). You didn't need to do this, your Normal template was fine. The file I recommended you rename is the one in your Startup folder to avoid confusion and this is an example of why - more than one file named "Normal" makes it difficult to track and convey which file is actually your "real" Normal template. :-) (2) I moved EditPoint.dotm to the ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP folder (I didn't move Table Menu Layout.dotm, because there was already a copy in this folder.) (3) I didn't have instructions about determining the path to the Startup folder, so I simply opened Word. In Developer Templates, both EditPoint and Table Menu Layout are listed and checked. (So is normal.dot, which is my old Word2003 template with the dozens of keyboard shortcuts. I may not need that any more, because I may have had to recreate all of them because of the specific-font settings that many of them had, and they save to normal.dotm.) Greg provided the instructions earlier in this thread, remember? You found it was ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP. But then, there are so many locations floating around in this thread it's easy to lose track. You may not need Normal.dot (this is the one you should have renamed). One way to find out is to deselect it to unload it for your Word session and see if your shortcuts still work. If they do then you can rename the template to something like Normal.dotOLD to prevent it from loading when Word starts. That way if you find you need it all you need to do is remove "OLD". Note you need to modify the file extension to prevent it from loading. A name such as OldNormal.dot will still load. (4) A new normal.dotm appeared in the \Templates folder. Presumably the keyboard shortcuts still exist, in the one that was renamed to EditPoint. (When I create new ones, should I save them to normal.dotm, which is the default location, or should I save them to EditPoint to keep them all together?) Since you renamed and moved EditPoint.dotm there was no longer a Normal.dotm so Word created a new one. You can either rename EditPoint.dotm back to Normal.dotm, delete the newly created Normal.dotm, and move your renamed Normal.dotm back to your Templates folder. Or, leave it like it is and add any new shortcuts to EditPoint.dotm. Whatever you end up doing I'd keep them in one place. So everything seems to be back to normal, though the only real change that seems to have been made was getting a new normal.dotm. Thank you! You're welcome. I can't take full credit, though, Suzanne and Greg helped ascertain the necessary details. They did the heavy lifting -- all I did was read the replies and summarize. grin (5) However, I couldn't uncheck or delete the SnagIt add-in, because Word says the Administrator has to do that. Windows knows that I'm the Administrator (when it shows that dialog, it next simply gives me the box to click the OK in). How do I tell Word that I'm the Administrator? Check your Add/Remove Programs and see if there is still an entry for SnagIt. The reason Word is denying you access is because the add-in is what is called a per-machine add-in and it's not specific to the user. The only add-ins you can disable in Word are called per-user add-ins. If you don't see an entry you may need to remove it from the Registry. I can give you instructions if you find that to be the case. ~Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP |
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You did have instructions for determining the path of your startup folder.
(3) I didn't have instructions about determining the path to the Startup folder, so I simply ... I gave you those instructions in my post 9/1 6:04 p.m. and again 9/2 12:52 a.m. Recalling your fondness for the simplicity usefulness of macros you could have also used: Sub NeedToDetermineMyWordStartupPathNailMeetsTheHammer () MsgBox Application.StartupPath End Sub Regardless, I am relieved that we have all managed to stumble through the issue. Perhaps peace and calm can again settle on the village. -- Greg Maxey See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... This seems to have worked. (1) In the ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates folder, I renamed normal.dotm to EditPoint.dotm (it changed from normal.dotx to normal.dotm when I installed Graham's macros, which have worked fine all along). (2) I moved EditPoint.dotm to the ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP folder (I didn't move Table Menu Layout.dotm, because there was already a copy in this folder.) (3) I didn't have instructions about determining the path to the Startup folder, so I simply opened Word. In Developer Templates, both EditPoint and Table Menu Layout are listed and checked. (So is normal.dot, which is my old Word2003 template with the dozens of keyboard shortcuts. I may not need that any more, because I may have had to recreate all of them because of the specific-font settings that many of them had, and they save to normal.dotm.) (4) A new normal.dotm appeared in the \Templates folder. Presumably the keyboard shortcuts still exist, in the one that was renamed to EditPoint. (When I create new ones, should I save them to normal.dotm, which is the default location, or should I save them to EditPoint to keep them all together?) So everything seems to be back to normal, though the only real change that seems to have been made was getting a new normal.dotm. Thank you! (5) However, I couldn't uncheck or delete the SnagIt add-in, because Word says the Administrator has to do that. Windows knows that I'm the Administrator (when it shows that dialog, it next simply gives me the box to click the OK in). How do I tell Word that I'm the Administrator? On Sep 2, 10:11 am, "Beth Melton" wrote: Here's what I would do: First, rename the Normal template in your Office12\STARTUP folder to something other than Normal.dotm or Normal.dot. Whatever it's named, use something other than Normal. It might be a good idea to use a name that describes its function. Otherwise it can cause confusion - Word could be confused and we're obviously confused about it. ;-) Then, move both templates in your Office12\STARTUP to your Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP folder if this is indeed the location set in Word Options, File Locations.* I'd also perform a search for the template Greg gave you. You may have changed the location for your Word Startup folder (I'm wondering if you pointed it to your User Templates folder) and the SP2 patch changed the location of your Word Startup folder back to the default since your Word Startup folder shouldn't point to the same location as your User Templates. I'm not certain this happened, of course, but based on what you've described it's something along these lines. *The default location of your Startup folder can be changed and pointed to any folder. IOW, just because you have a STARTUP folder in Roaming\Microsoft\Word that doesn't mean Word still recognizes it as your Startup folder. The only way to determine this for sure is to check your File Locations as Greg described. If the templates are in the location you have set for your Startup folder then when you view the Templates and Add-ins dialog box they should be selected since Word automatically loads add-ins in your Startup folder. If they aren't selected then it indicates they were loaded at one time but they are no longer being loaded when Word starts. There is automatic loading and manual loading for global templates. Manual is when you use the Templates and Add-ins dialog box to load a template and it is loaded only for your current Word session and it will not be loaded the next time Word starts. Automatic is when Word loads templates from your Startup folder. Also, in regards to the SnagIt add-in, the developers are manually loading their template via a macro which why you see a different location for it. The creators of SnagIt use this method to provide the UI for their add-in. They use a COM Add-in for the automation and it loads the template. If it's selected then deselecting only unloads it for your current Word session. The next time you start Word it will be loaded again. To disable the SnagIt add-in: - Click the Office Button - Click Word Options - Click Add-ins - In the Mange drop down at the bottom, select COM Add-ins if necessary - Click Go - In the resulting dialog box, disable the SnagIt add-in to unload it and prevent it from loading the next time Word starts. ~Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... On Sep 2, 8:53 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Peter, Keeping in mind that I am a mere autodidact, I can say for sure what your template problem is, but I feel pretty sure that it is not caused be SP2 or some malfuntioning of the RibbonXML in the template your have. Start Word. Click the Developer TabTemplatesDocument TemplateTemplates. In the window "Checked items are currently loaded" do you see your template for customizing the ribbon? If so, is it checked? Yes, it's there, along with normal.dot (the other one that's in the Word Startup folder) and, bizarrely, a snagit template, which is in a snagit folder left over from when I did the month's free trial of snagit, quite a while ago. I suspect the answer to both questions is no. The only one of the three that was checked was the snagit template. Is it listed? If so, check it. Does the ribbon now display the customized ribbon? I checked it, and the customized ribbon did display. If yes then you will simply need to determine what is in fact your Word\Startup path and place the template in that directory. The template is in that directory. Presumably that's why it appears in that window. The template was unchecked. Are any items checked? If so then look at the "Full Path" line at the bottom of the dialog and see if you can determine the path. That well could be your Startup path. The path for the one that was checked was to a snagit folder. (I unchecked the snagit template, since snagit didn't consistently do what it was needed to do at the time so I didn't buy it.) This suggests that there is some way of telling Word to load a template upon opening, independent of the folder it's located in. I don't know what you have done wrt to Normal.dotm. You should only have one and is should be in your User Templates path not Startup. I have only one normal.dotm, and it's in the Peter\AppData\Roaming \Microsoft\Templates folder (along with a second copy of Table Menu Layout.dotm, which is the name you gave the template you sent me).. Peter T. Daniels wrote: On Sep 2, 12:52 am, "Greg Maxey" wrote: ...seems to be ignoring my posts again. You might suggest: You can determine your Word Startup path by OfficeWord OptionsAdvancedGeneralClick "File Locations and record the path listed for "Startup" The path goes ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP. There is a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template (and of the old normal.dot) in that folder, and double-clicking it yields a Document 1 showing the added button. The normal.dotm template containing Graham's macros for opening a file at the last editing point is in the Office12\STARTUP folder (along with a copy of the enhanced Ribbon template) and works properly. Could it be that the problem is having a copy in each location? -- Greg Maxey See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org for an eclectic collection of Word Tips. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in l... No, that's the Office Startup folder. The one for Word is going to be along the lines of C:\Documents and Settings\Suzanne\Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP (with allowances for your profile name and whatever Vista does differently from Windows XP). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... Except that it's been working perfectly for nine months, placed in the folder that Jay's abbreviated pathname sent me to. By "Word Startup folder," do you mean ...\Office12\STARTUP? I find no folders that could be Word-specific. On Sep 1, 6:56 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The Templates folder is for document templates. Any customizations in a template there will be seen only when you are working in a document based on that template. Since the template Greg supplied is not a document template, you're seeing the customizations only when you open the template itself. If you want customizations in a template to be "global" (available to all documents), you have to put the template in Word's Startup folder. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... All my templates are in Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft \Templates , which is presumably where they ended up when I followed the instructions (perhaps from Jay Freeman?) to paste a certain path into a certain window, which pathname included a sequence between the strings, IIRC, %20 and %20. From 8 December 2008 until a day or so ago, there were no problems, and all and only the templates in that location appear under Open Templates. I have opened and closed Word several times since this morning, but I haven't restarted -- and now, Opening that template with Open Template now shows the enhanced Ribbon (with an empty table of a few rows and a few columns in the document area). Opening a New document based on that template shows the enhanced Ribbon. Opening Word (so that a new blank Document 1 appears) shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening a Word document shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (This last is by far the most frequent situation.) Opening Word by opening that template, then closing the template with Ctrl-W to leave Word running, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list shows the unenhanced Ribbon. Opening Word by opening that template, then opening an existing document from the Recent Documents list, shows the unenhanced Ribbon. (I can't think of any other sequences to try.) The only file in Computer\Local Disk (C \Program Files\Microsoft\Office12\STARTUP is something called pdf995.old (65 Kb), which presumably is of no use to anything. |
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On Sep 2, 12:53*pm, "Beth Melton" wrote:
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... This seems to have worked. after going out for lunch ... (1) In the ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates folder, I renamed normal.dotm to EditPoint.dotm (it changed from normal.dotx to normal.dotm when I installed Graham's macros, which have worked fine all along). You didn't need to do this, your Normal template was fine. The file I recommended you rename is the one in your Startup folder to avoid confusion and this is an example of why - more than one file named "Normal" makes it difficult to track and convey which file is actually your "real" Normal template. :-) Ok, I've read and acted on everything in this message. I changed EditPoint back to Normal and moved it back to the Templates folder (overwriting the newly created one). (2) I moved EditPoint.dotm to the ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP folder (I didn't move Table Menu Layout.dotm, because there was already a copy in this folder.) (3) I didn't have instructions about determining the path to the Startup folder, so I simply opened Word. In Developer Templates, both EditPoint and Table Menu Layout are listed and checked. (So is normal.dot, which is my old Word2003 template with the dozens of keyboard shortcuts. I may not need that any more, because I may have had to recreate all of them because of the specific-font settings that many of them had, and they save to normal.dotm.) Greg provided the instructions earlier in this thread, remember? You found it was ...\Roaming\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP. But then, there are so many locations floating around in this thread it's easy to lose track. I see that now -- I was remembering only the Documents Templates method of finding things I was looking for. So the Startup folder was still the one it was supposed to be. You may not need Normal.dot (this is the one you should have renamed). One way to find out is to deselect it to unload it for your Word session and see if your shortcuts still work. If they do then you can rename the template to something like Normal.dotOLD to prevent it from loading when Word starts. That way if you find you need it all you need to do is remove "OLD". Note you need to modify the file extension to prevent it from loading. A name such as OldNormal.dot will still load. Ok, I tried that, and curiously the few letters that had been coming up in Gentium _still_ were coming up in Gentium. I went ahead and deleted normal.dotold, since the keyboard shortcuts were still there. And the next time I opened Word, the affected letters were coming up in TNR. So something succeeded. (4) A new normal.dotm appeared in the \Templates folder. Presumably the keyboard shortcuts still exist, in the one that was renamed to EditPoint. (When I create new ones, should I save them to normal.dotm, which is the default location, or should I save them to EditPoint to keep them all together?) Since you renamed and moved EditPoint.dotm there was no longer a Normal.dotm so Word created a new one. You can either rename EditPoint.dotm back to Normal.dotm, delete the newly created Normal.dotm, and move your renamed Normal.dotm back to your Templates folder. Or, leave it like it is and add any new shortcuts to EditPoint.dotm. Whatever you end up doing I'd keep them in one place. Back to normal.dotm. So everything seems to be back to normal, though the only real change that seems to have been made was getting a new normal.dotm. Thank you! You're welcome. I can't take full credit, though, Suzanne and Greg helped ascertain the necessary details. They did the heavy lifting -- all I did was read the replies and summarize. grin Thanks especially to Greg, and to Suzanne. Beth clearly has a major career opportunity in writing textbooks! (Don't you have a longer .sig indicating that you have done so?) (5) However, I couldn't uncheck or delete the SnagIt add-in, because Word says the Administrator has to do that. Windows knows that I'm the Administrator (when it shows that dialog, it next simply gives me the box to click the OK in). How do I tell Word that I'm the Administrator? Check your Add/Remove Programs and see if there is still an entry for SnagIt. The reason Word is denying you access is because the add-in is what is called a per-machine add-in and it's not specific to the user. The only add-ins you can disable in Word are called per-user add-ins. If you don't see an entry you may need to remove it from the Registry. I can give you instructions if you find that to be the case. Of course Vista makes it harder to find Add/Remove than it was in XP. Turns out (and Help actually helped!) it's now Control Panel Programs and Features. It seemed to take a long time to uninstall SnagIt, as if it has tentacles in many places. SnagIt no longer appeared in the Options Add-ins panel, but the SnagIt.dot template still appeared in the Developer Templates list, but it wasn't checked, and there was no objection to Remove when it was selected. |
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ribbon customization for table borders
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
... On Sep 2, 12:53 pm, "Beth Melton" wrote: "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in ... snipped for readability I'm glad to hear everything is finally working for you again. Thanks for hanging in there and for your patience. You're welcome. I can't take full credit, though, Suzanne and Greg helped ascertain the necessary details. They did the heavy lifting -- all I did was read the replies and summarize. grin Thanks especially to Greg, and to Suzanne. Beth clearly has a major career opportunity in writing textbooks! (Don't you have a longer .sig indicating that you have done so?) blush Yes, an older signature noted I'm co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out. I think I'm a stronger technical reviewer than author, though, starting with a blank page doesn't come as natural for me as I'd like... (5) However, I couldn't uncheck or delete the SnagIt add-in, because Word says the Administrator has to do that. Windows knows that I'm the Administrator (when it shows that dialog, it next simply gives me the box to click the OK in). How do I tell Word that I'm the Administrator? Check your Add/Remove Programs and see if there is still an entry for SnagIt. The reason Word is denying you access is because the add-in is what is called a per-machine add-in and it's not specific to the user. The only add-ins you can disable in Word are called per-user add-ins. If you don't see an entry you may need to remove it from the Registry. I can give you instructions if you find that to be the case. Of course Vista makes it harder to find Add/Remove than it was in XP. Turns out (and Help actually helped!) it's now Control Panel Programs and Features. Sorry about that! I keep forgetting they changed the name. It seemed to take a long time to uninstall SnagIt, as if it has tentacles in many places. SnagIt no longer appeared in the Options Add-ins panel, but the SnagIt.dot template still appeared in the Developer Templates list, but it wasn't checked, and there was no objection to Remove when it was selected. Once a template has been loaded the reference isn't removed. If it's no longer showing in the Add-ins then it's no longer installed. ~Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP |
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