I layout dissertations, consisting of many chapters. Each chapter is made a
section, so I (among other things) am able to make footnotes begin with 1 in
every chapter. Last page of the former chapter may filled with running text
and say 10 footnotes, WITHOUT section. Footnotes at end of page, as should be.

As soon as I make a section at the end of the chapter, last page is divided
into 2 pages, with the running text split - at top of both pages - and
footnotes split on both pages.

The first of these 2 last pages... have footnotes directly under running
text, then lots of space. Almost the same thing with the last of these 2
pages, except the space is both above and under the footnotes.

Why does the "section divider" need so much space?

This is the sort of problem that can be the very devil to troubleshoot.
After you've done the obvious things (checking paragraphs for "Keep with
next" formatting that might be causing an unnecessary page break, for
example), try inserting a Continuous section break above the Next Page break
to see if that makes any difference (though I don't see why it would, and it
would add needless complexity and actually probably make matters worse).
Also make sure that your vertical alignment (Layout tab of Page Setup) is
set to Top and not Justified.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Lynnie" wrote in message
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I layout dissertations, consisting of many chapters. Each chapter is made
a
section, so I (among other things) am able to make footnotes begin with 1
in
every chapter. Last page of the former chapter may filled with running
text
and say 10 footnotes, WITHOUT section. Footnotes at end of page, as should
be.

As soon as I make a section at the end of the chapter, last page is
divided
into 2 pages, with the running text split - at top of both pages - and
footnotes split on both pages.

The first of these 2 last pages... have footnotes directly under running
text, then lots of space. Almost the same thing with the last of these 2
pages, except the space is both above and under the footnotes.

Why does the "section divider" need so much space?

Thanx for your help,
Problem is, I have tried inserting both Continous section, and Next page
(not sure about exact English Word phrases, since I have a Swedish version),
which really doesn't make any difference.

The real problem is the footnotes. Without them I have no trouble at all
making sections. It's when a chapter (and therefore section) ends with
footnotes it becomes a mess... ( I need the sections to be able to start
numbering footnotes all over again in each chapter, since it's over all more
than a thousand footnotes... Also I need to be able to cut out the page
number on every new chapter's first page - although that can easily be solved
when I PDF the document.)

It's really weird that one page's running text and footnotes are split up in
two pages just because one makes a section. Also weird the footnotes on the
first of these two pages jump to the middle of the page, and are absolutely
impossible to "move" to bottom of page. Especially since there is, say five,
lines of space between the last running text and the footnotes on last page,
when not sectioned..

I've even tried to cut a work piece of running text by making a "hard line
cut", i.e. shift + enter, and then section at beginning of the next line. By
cutting the line myself the piece won't get an indentation on the new line;
the piece continues on the next page. By doing this I hoped the running text
would fill up the second last page, keep footnotes at bottom of page, and let
the last few lines be at last page, and the last footnotes would stay at
bottom (that, I know they do). (I've done this procedure when I have to cut a
pice due to an illustration that should be at top of page.)

And yes, the vertical alignment is Top.

Well, I guess what I have to do is move all the footnotes to a seperate page
at the end of each chapter....

Thanx again,
Lynne

Endnotes at the end of each section would probably work, though keep in mind
this caveat: if you're restarting numbering in each section, and if any
chapter has more than one section, then even if you suppress the endnotes
till the end of the chapter, they're still going to renumber in each
section, so you can end up with notes for one chapter numbered 1, 2, 1, 2,
3, 1, etc.

For the setup you describe, you would need at minimum:

1. A Next Page section break between chapters. You may prefer Odd Page.

2. "Different first page" enabled (Layout tab of Page Setup) so that you can
omit the page number on the first page of each chapter.

Make sure that there is a paragraph break before the section break (though
recent versions of Word insert one automatically). And check the formatting
of the paragraphs in question to make sure that you haven't applied
properties such as "Keep with next" or "Page break before" that would affect
the pagination. See http://home.earthlink.net/~wordfaqs/BottomLine.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Lynnie" wrote in message
...
Thanx for your help,
Problem is, I have tried inserting both Continous section, and Next page
(not sure about exact English Word phrases, since I have a Swedish
version),
which really doesn't make any difference.

The real problem is the footnotes. Without them I have no trouble at all
making sections. It's when a chapter (and therefore section) ends with
footnotes it becomes a mess... ( I need the sections to be able to start
numbering footnotes all over again in each chapter, since it's over all
more
than a thousand footnotes... Also I need to be able to cut out the page
number on every new chapter's first page - although that can easily be
solved
when I PDF the document.)

It's really weird that one page's running text and footnotes are split up
in
two pages just because one makes a section. Also weird the footnotes on
the
first of these two pages jump to the middle of the page, and are
absolutely
impossible to "move" to bottom of page. Especially since there is, say
five,
lines of space between the last running text and the footnotes on last
page,
when not sectioned..

I've even tried to cut a work piece of running text by making a "hard line
cut", i.e. shift + enter, and then section at beginning of the next line.
By
cutting the line myself the piece won't get an indentation on the new
line;
the piece continues on the next page. By doing this I hoped the running
text
would fill up the second last page, keep footnotes at bottom of page, and
let
the last few lines be at last page, and the last footnotes would stay at
bottom (that, I know they do). (I've done this procedure when I have to
cut a
pice due to an illustration that should be at top of page.)

And yes, the vertical alignment is Top.

Well, I guess what I have to do is move all the footnotes to a seperate
page
at the end of each chapter....

Thanx again,
Lynne