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I have a fairly long Word 2002 document and want to have a different footer
for each section. So far I find that each time I set up a new footer in a subsequent section the same footer now shows up in the previous section which until then had had its own footer. I have started each section with a Section Break (Continuous) and ended it with a page break. I had originally used Section Break (Next Page) but when I saw my footer pop up on the preceding page I figured I should use the combination of Page Break and Continuous section Break. Here is an example of the problem. After setting up all the sections I made a header for section 1; let's say the text was "111" for illustration. I used the same footer for section 2 ("111"). At section 3 I made a footer reading "333". In the process I tried to toggle "Same as Previous" off and was asked if I wanted to delete my footer and attach this to the privious section. I answered no; after all, I want a new footer here, and NOT the previous one. I get the new "333" footer for sure at this spot. But now when I check the prior section, its footer is now . . ."333!" Am I doing something wrong? Is there a special setting that everykbody else knows--except me? Going to Word Help seemed to show that I was doing everything right. But, of course, coming out all wrong. Any suggestions? (Sadly, yelling at the computer does not seem to have eny effect.) Joe McGuire |
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Hi Joe,
After you insert a section break, while the cursor is in the new section, open the header area. Notice that the top right edge of the header's boundary box says "Same as previous" -- that means the new section's header is linked to the previous section's header. Changing one changes the other. On the Header/Footer toolbar, find the Same As Previous button and click it. It's a toggle that turns the linkage off and on. You want it off, so the tag doesn't appear on the header boundary. Only then should you change the new header. This is completely independent of whether the section break is Continuous or New Page. However, if you have parts of more than one section on a page, separated by continuous breaks, the header and footer will be the ones from the section that occupies the top of the page. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:20:19 -0400, "Joe McGuire" wrote: I have a fairly long Word 2002 document and want to have a different footer for each section. So far I find that each time I set up a new footer in a subsequent section the same footer now shows up in the previous section which until then had had its own footer. I have started each section with a Section Break (Continuous) and ended it with a page break. I had originally used Section Break (Next Page) but when I saw my footer pop up on the preceding page I figured I should use the combination of Page Break and Continuous section Break. Here is an example of the problem. After setting up all the sections I made a header for section 1; let's say the text was "111" for illustration. I used the same footer for section 2 ("111"). At section 3 I made a footer reading "333". In the process I tried to toggle "Same as Previous" off and was asked if I wanted to delete my footer and attach this to the privious section. I answered no; after all, I want a new footer here, and NOT the previous one. I get the new "333" footer for sure at this spot. But now when I check the prior section, its footer is now . . ."333!" Am I doing something wrong? Is there a special setting that everykbody else knows--except me? Going to Word Help seemed to show that I was doing everything right. But, of course, coming out all wrong. Any suggestions? (Sadly, yelling at the computer does not seem to have eny effect.) Joe McGuire |
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Thanks! Getting this to work (approximately) has been a harrowing
experience. This will be the last time I attempt this--and I thought I was pretty good with Word. Which, I guess, means that you get to the point where you occasionally see something that is either deeply flawed in the program or how the program is subject to supposed random "corruption." Once I got the footers pretty much right I realized that Word had in the interim shifted many of my Section Break/Next Page to Section Break/Continuous. To make matters worse, this switcheroo screws up the footers because they start to connect with the previous footer, like it or not. At least that seemed to be the pattern. As I was about to heave my new Dell laptop out the window it occured to me to try copying all but the tail end of the document into a new one on the theory that maybe I was not up against a Word nightmare but rather just "corruption." Unfortunately, for some reason unlike Word 2000 copying and pasting the document in Word 2003 did not bring over the styles intact, so I had to spend a lot of time fixing the styles. Once I got that stuff fixed, I was able to get the footers under reasonable enough control. Word still seems to alter the section breaks on its own, so apparently it is not a matter of "corruption." When I finally got a draft that had all the right footers in the right places (10 footers altogether) I figured it was time to quit. Perfect, after all, is the enemy of good. Joe McGuire "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... Hi Joe, After you insert a section break, while the cursor is in the new section, open the header area. Notice that the top right edge of the header's boundary box says "Same as previous" -- that means the new section's header is linked to the previous section's header. Changing one changes the other. On the Header/Footer toolbar, find the Same As Previous button and click it. It's a toggle that turns the linkage off and on. You want it off, so the tag doesn't appear on the header boundary. Only then should you change the new header. This is completely independent of whether the section break is Continuous or New Page. However, if you have parts of more than one section on a page, separated by continuous breaks, the header and footer will be the ones from the section that occupies the top of the page. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:20:19 -0400, "Joe McGuire" wrote: I have a fairly long Word 2002 document and want to have a different footer for each section. So far I find that each time I set up a new footer in a subsequent section the same footer now shows up in the previous section which until then had had its own footer. I have started each section with a Section Break (Continuous) and ended it with a page break. I had originally used Section Break (Next Page) but when I saw my footer pop up on the preceding page I figured I should use the combination of Page Break and Continuous section Break. Here is an example of the problem. After setting up all the sections I made a header for section 1; let's say the text was "111" for illustration. I used the same footer for section 2 ("111"). At section 3 I made a footer reading "333". In the process I tried to toggle "Same as Previous" off and was asked if I wanted to delete my footer and attach this to the privious section. I answered no; after all, I want a new footer here, and NOT the previous one. I get the new "333" footer for sure at this spot. But now when I check the prior section, its footer is now . . ."333!" Am I doing something wrong? Is there a special setting that everykbody else knows--except me? Going to Word Help seemed to show that I was doing everything right. But, of course, coming out all wrong. Any suggestions? (Sadly, yelling at the computer does not seem to have eny effect.) Joe McGuire |
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When Word changes a section break start on you, don't try to "fix" it by
deleting and reinserting or selecting and replacing the existing break. Instead, go to the Layout tab of Page Setup and change the section start type. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Joe McGuire" wrote in message ... Thanks! Getting this to work (approximately) has been a harrowing experience. This will be the last time I attempt this--and I thought I was pretty good with Word. Which, I guess, means that you get to the point where you occasionally see something that is either deeply flawed in the program or how the program is subject to supposed random "corruption." Once I got the footers pretty much right I realized that Word had in the interim shifted many of my Section Break/Next Page to Section Break/Continuous. To make matters worse, this switcheroo screws up the footers because they start to connect with the previous footer, like it or not. At least that seemed to be the pattern. As I was about to heave my new Dell laptop out the window it occured to me to try copying all but the tail end of the document into a new one on the theory that maybe I was not up against a Word nightmare but rather just "corruption." Unfortunately, for some reason unlike Word 2000 copying and pasting the document in Word 2003 did not bring over the styles intact, so I had to spend a lot of time fixing the styles. Once I got that stuff fixed, I was able to get the footers under reasonable enough control. Word still seems to alter the section breaks on its own, so apparently it is not a matter of "corruption." When I finally got a draft that had all the right footers in the right places (10 footers altogether) I figured it was time to quit. Perfect, after all, is the enemy of good. Joe McGuire "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... Hi Joe, After you insert a section break, while the cursor is in the new section, open the header area. Notice that the top right edge of the header's boundary box says "Same as previous" -- that means the new section's header is linked to the previous section's header. Changing one changes the other. On the Header/Footer toolbar, find the Same As Previous button and click it. It's a toggle that turns the linkage off and on. You want it off, so the tag doesn't appear on the header boundary. Only then should you change the new header. This is completely independent of whether the section break is Continuous or New Page. However, if you have parts of more than one section on a page, separated by continuous breaks, the header and footer will be the ones from the section that occupies the top of the page. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:20:19 -0400, "Joe McGuire" wrote: I have a fairly long Word 2002 document and want to have a different footer for each section. So far I find that each time I set up a new footer in a subsequent section the same footer now shows up in the previous section which until then had had its own footer. I have started each section with a Section Break (Continuous) and ended it with a page break. I had originally used Section Break (Next Page) but when I saw my footer pop up on the preceding page I figured I should use the combination of Page Break and Continuous section Break. Here is an example of the problem. After setting up all the sections I made a header for section 1; let's say the text was "111" for illustration. I used the same footer for section 2 ("111"). At section 3 I made a footer reading "333". In the process I tried to toggle "Same as Previous" off and was asked if I wanted to delete my footer and attach this to the privious section. I answered no; after all, I want a new footer here, and NOT the previous one. I get the new "333" footer for sure at this spot. But now when I check the prior section, its footer is now . . ."333!" Am I doing something wrong? Is there a special setting that everykbody else knows--except me? Going to Word Help seemed to show that I was doing everything right. But, of course, coming out all wrong. Any suggestions? (Sadly, yelling at the computer does not seem to have eny effect.) Joe McGuire |
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Thanks--I had no idea! After a few minutes of finagling the document now
seems to be 100% right. Every section actually starts on a new page, with the correct section break type, and every footer changes at the right spot. I take it all back about never doing this again with footers. (Now if only there were a way to get all those wasted hours back--and to be excused for the nasty things I muttered, well, yelled--well it was under duress) "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... When Word changes a section break start on you, don't try to "fix" it by deleting and reinserting or selecting and replacing the existing break. Instead, go to the Layout tab of Page Setup and change the section start type. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Joe McGuire" wrote in message ... Thanks! Getting this to work (approximately) has been a harrowing experience. This will be the last time I attempt this--and I thought I was pretty good with Word. Which, I guess, means that you get to the point where you occasionally see something that is either deeply flawed in the program or how the program is subject to supposed random "corruption." Once I got the footers pretty much right I realized that Word had in the interim shifted many of my Section Break/Next Page to Section Break/Continuous. To make matters worse, this switcheroo screws up the footers because they start to connect with the previous footer, like it or not. At least that seemed to be the pattern. As I was about to heave my new Dell laptop out the window it occured to me to try copying all but the tail end of the document into a new one on the theory that maybe I was not up against a Word nightmare but rather just "corruption." Unfortunately, for some reason unlike Word 2000 copying and pasting the document in Word 2003 did not bring over the styles intact, so I had to spend a lot of time fixing the styles. Once I got that stuff fixed, I was able to get the footers under reasonable enough control. Word still seems to alter the section breaks on its own, so apparently it is not a matter of "corruption." When I finally got a draft that had all the right footers in the right places (10 footers altogether) I figured it was time to quit. Perfect, after all, is the enemy of good. Joe McGuire "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... Hi Joe, After you insert a section break, while the cursor is in the new section, open the header area. Notice that the top right edge of the header's boundary box says "Same as previous" -- that means the new section's header is linked to the previous section's header. Changing one changes the other. On the Header/Footer toolbar, find the Same As Previous button and click it. It's a toggle that turns the linkage off and on. You want it off, so the tag doesn't appear on the header boundary. Only then should you change the new header. This is completely independent of whether the section break is Continuous or New Page. However, if you have parts of more than one section on a page, separated by continuous breaks, the header and footer will be the ones from the section that occupies the top of the page. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:20:19 -0400, "Joe McGuire" wrote: I have a fairly long Word 2002 document and want to have a different footer for each section. So far I find that each time I set up a new footer in a subsequent section the same footer now shows up in the previous section which until then had had its own footer. I have started each section with a Section Break (Continuous) and ended it with a page break. I had originally used Section Break (Next Page) but when I saw my footer pop up on the preceding page I figured I should use the combination of Page Break and Continuous section Break. Here is an example of the problem. After setting up all the sections I made a header for section 1; let's say the text was "111" for illustration. I used the same footer for section 2 ("111"). At section 3 I made a footer reading "333". In the process I tried to toggle "Same as Previous" off and was asked if I wanted to delete my footer and attach this to the privious section. I answered no; after all, I want a new footer here, and NOT the previous one. I get the new "333" footer for sure at this spot. But now when I check the prior section, its footer is now . . ."333!" Am I doing something wrong? Is there a special setting that everykbody else knows--except me? Going to Word Help seemed to show that I was doing everything right. But, of course, coming out all wrong. Any suggestions? (Sadly, yelling at the computer does not seem to have eny effect.) Joe McGuire |
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