I use very large Word documents that take 10 to 30 seconds to save, and am in
the habit of manually saving every few minutes as I reach a suitable pause. I
often have several of these large documents open at once. On my versions of
Word 97, 2000 and 2002 I have tried either to disable 'autorecover', or set
it for a longer time interval, so that it does not do its 'save autorecover'
at inopportune moments. Word, however, often spontaneously resets this
feature to 10 minutes whatever I set it to! With several large documents open
this 'save autorecover' can stop the PC for half a minute or so every few
minutes, as the saves are out of phase; very annoying indeed. The spontaneous
resets do not always occur, but happen frequently enough to be very
frustrating.

I am quite happy manually to save as I am in completely in the habit of it,
and I do not want the annoyance of having to face a frozen screen every few
minutes, so how can I disable 'save autorecover' such that it stays disabled?

This phenomenon occurs on the three PCs I use. All run fully updated XP and
Word.

You should be able to turn AutoRecover (which, BTW, is not an actual save)
entirely. If Word is not saving your settings, then it may be that your Word
Data key needs to be rebuilt. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Charles Harvey" Charles wrote in message
...
I use very large Word documents that take 10 to 30 seconds to save, and am
in
the habit of manually saving every few minutes as I reach a suitable
pause. I
often have several of these large documents open at once. On my versions
of
Word 97, 2000 and 2002 I have tried either to disable 'autorecover', or
set
it for a longer time interval, so that it does not do its 'save
autorecover'
at inopportune moments. Word, however, often spontaneously resets this
feature to 10 minutes whatever I set it to! With several large documents
open
this 'save autorecover' can stop the PC for half a minute or so every few
minutes, as the saves are out of phase; very annoying indeed. The
spontaneous
resets do not always occur, but happen frequently enough to be very
frustrating.

I am quite happy manually to save as I am in completely in the habit of
it,
and I do not want the annoyance of having to face a frozen screen every
few
minutes, so how can I disable 'save autorecover' such that it stays
disabled?

This phenomenon occurs on the three PCs I use. All run fully updated XP
and
Word.

Hi Suzanne

I was not able to turn autorecover off and have it stay turned off, but
after deleting the registry key as described in
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm, as you recommended,
it seems that now I can. It is too early to say whether or not this state of
affairs is permanent, but it is a very good start.

Many thanks for your help, and I'll come back to the forum if the problem
recurs.

Charles Harvey

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You should be able to turn AutoRecover (which, BTW, is not an actual save)
entirely. If Word is not saving your settings, then it may be that your Word
Data key needs to be rebuilt. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Charles Harvey" Charles wrote in message
...
I use very large Word documents that take 10 to 30 seconds to save, and am
in
the habit of manually saving every few minutes as I reach a suitable
pause. I
often have several of these large documents open at once. On my versions
of
Word 97, 2000 and 2002 I have tried either to disable 'autorecover', or
set
it for a longer time interval, so that it does not do its 'save
autorecover'
at inopportune moments. Word, however, often spontaneously resets this
feature to 10 minutes whatever I set it to! With several large documents
open
this 'save autorecover' can stop the PC for half a minute or so every few
minutes, as the saves are out of phase; very annoying indeed. The
spontaneous
resets do not always occur, but happen frequently enough to be very
frustrating.

I am quite happy manually to save as I am in completely in the habit of
it,
and I do not want the annoyance of having to face a frozen screen every
few
minutes, so how can I disable 'save autorecover' such that it stays
disabled?

This phenomenon occurs on the three PCs I use. All run fully updated XP
and
Word.

Hope that works for you! I'm curious about a document that takes so long to
save, though. I've had some pretty heavy-duty ones, and they still save more
or less instantly.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Charles Harvey" wrote in message
...
Hi Suzanne

I was not able to turn autorecover off and have it stay turned off, but
after deleting the registry key as described in
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm, as you
recommended,
it seems that now I can. It is too early to say whether or not this state
of
affairs is permanent, but it is a very good start.

Many thanks for your help, and I'll come back to the forum if the problem
recurs.

Charles Harvey

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You should be able to turn AutoRecover (which, BTW, is not an actual
save)
entirely. If Word is not saving your settings, then it may be that your
Word
Data key needs to be rebuilt. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Charles Harvey" Charles wrote in
message
...
I use very large Word documents that take 10 to 30 seconds to save,
and am
in
the habit of manually saving every few minutes as I reach a suitable
pause. I
often have several of these large documents open at once. On my
versions
of
Word 97, 2000 and 2002 I have tried either to disable 'autorecover',
or
set
it for a longer time interval, so that it does not do its 'save
autorecover'
at inopportune moments. Word, however, often spontaneously resets this
feature to 10 minutes whatever I set it to! With several large
documents
open
this 'save autorecover' can stop the PC for half a minute or so every
few
minutes, as the saves are out of phase; very annoying indeed. The
spontaneous
resets do not always occur, but happen frequently enough to be very
frustrating.

I am quite happy manually to save as I am in completely in the habit
of
it,
and I do not want the annoyance of having to face a frozen screen
every
few
minutes, so how can I disable 'save autorecover' such that it stays
disabled?

This phenomenon occurs on the three PCs I use. All run fully updated
XP
and
Word.

Hi Suzanne

The mystery deepens! Deleting the registry key not only cures the
'autorecover spontananeous reset' problem, but also cures the 'word has
encountered a problem and needs to close' problem when I save a document.
Naturally I was very happy indeed with this situation as it completely
transformed working with Word, until I found, on the second reboot of the PC,
that Word had become recorrupted, and I was almost back to square one!

It is very easy to delete this registry key prior to each Word session,
however, so I am fairly happy with this system as a workaround, but it would
be good permanently to cure the problem.

I have not been able to discover what triggers the recorruption, as it does
not happen at every reboot, and it has not yet happened on closing down Word
and restarting it. I have used no other software during these experiments,
although of course there is all the usual stuff running in the background. I
will try disabling the antivirus software, Bullguard, and see if this helps
(I don't use the web on the PC on which I do most word processing).

If you have any suggestions for further investigation, they would be greatly
appreciated.

Incidentally the heavy weight files are between 100 and 150 Mb as they
contain large numbers of embedded maps, in quite high resolution so that they
can be up to an MB each. I need to embed them rather than link to them, as
the files are used on several different computers.

Regards

Charles Harvey


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Hope that works for you! I'm curious about a document that takes so long to
save, though. I've had some pretty heavy-duty ones, and they still save more
or less instantly.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Charles Harvey" wrote in message
...
Hi Suzanne

I was not able to turn autorecover off and have it stay turned off, but
after deleting the registry key as described in
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm, as you
recommended,
it seems that now I can. It is too early to say whether or not this state
of
affairs is permanent, but it is a very good start.

Many thanks for your help, and I'll come back to the forum if the problem
recurs.

Charles Harvey

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You should be able to turn AutoRecover (which, BTW, is not an actual
save)
entirely. If Word is not saving your settings, then it may be that your
Word
Data key needs to be rebuilt. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Charles Harvey" Charles wrote in
message
...
I use very large Word documents that take 10 to 30 seconds to save,
and am
in
the habit of manually saving every few minutes as I reach a suitable
pause. I
often have several of these large documents open at once. On my
versions
of
Word 97, 2000 and 2002 I have tried either to disable 'autorecover',
or
set
it for a longer time interval, so that it does not do its 'save
autorecover'
at inopportune moments. Word, however, often spontaneously resets this
feature to 10 minutes whatever I set it to! With several large
documents
open
this 'save autorecover' can stop the PC for half a minute or so every
few
minutes, as the saves are out of phase; very annoying indeed. The
spontaneous
resets do not always occur, but happen frequently enough to be very
frustrating.

I am quite happy manually to save as I am in completely in the habit
of
it,
and I do not want the annoyance of having to face a frozen screen
every
few
minutes, so how can I disable 'save autorecover' such that it stays
disabled?

This phenomenon occurs on the three PCs I use. All run fully updated
XP
and
Word.

My guess is that a corrupted normal.dot is re-corrupting the registry
entries. Have you tried renaming normal.dot? I didn't see it mentioned in
the chain of messages mentioned below.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
http://www.herbtyson.com
"Charles Harvey" wrote in message
...
Hi Suzanne

The mystery deepens! Deleting the registry key not only cures the
'autorecover spontananeous reset' problem, but also cures the 'word has
encountered a problem and needs to close' problem when I save a document.
Naturally I was very happy indeed with this situation as it completely
transformed working with Word, until I found, on the second reboot of the
PC,
that Word had become recorrupted, and I was almost back to square one!

It is very easy to delete this registry key prior to each Word session,
however, so I am fairly happy with this system as a workaround, but it
would
be good permanently to cure the problem.

I have not been able to discover what triggers the recorruption, as it
does
not happen at every reboot, and it has not yet happened on closing down
Word
and restarting it. I have used no other software during these experiments,
although of course there is all the usual stuff running in the background.
I
will try disabling the antivirus software, Bullguard, and see if this
helps
(I don't use the web on the PC on which I do most word processing).

If you have any suggestions for further investigation, they would be
greatly
appreciated.

Incidentally the heavy weight files are between 100 and 150 Mb as they
contain large numbers of embedded maps, in quite high resolution so that
they
can be up to an MB each. I need to embed them rather than link to them, as
the files are used on several different computers.

Regards

Charles Harvey


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Hope that works for you! I'm curious about a document that takes so long
to
save, though. I've had some pretty heavy-duty ones, and they still save
more
or less instantly.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Charles Harvey" wrote in
message
...
Hi Suzanne

I was not able to turn autorecover off and have it stay turned off, but
after deleting the registry key as described in
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm, as you
recommended,
it seems that now I can. It is too early to say whether or not this
state
of
affairs is permanent, but it is a very good start.

Many thanks for your help, and I'll come back to the forum if the
problem
recurs.

Charles Harvey

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You should be able to turn AutoRecover (which, BTW, is not an actual
save)
entirely. If Word is not saving your settings, then it may be that
your
Word
Data key needs to be rebuilt. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/MissingMenusEtc.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Charles Harvey" Charles wrote in
message
...
I use very large Word documents that take 10 to 30 seconds to save,
and am
in
the habit of manually saving every few minutes as I reach a
suitable
pause. I
often have several of these large documents open at once. On my
versions
of
Word 97, 2000 and 2002 I have tried either to disable
'autorecover',
or
set
it for a longer time interval, so that it does not do its 'save
autorecover'
at inopportune moments. Word, however, often spontaneously resets
this
feature to 10 minutes whatever I set it to! With several large
documents
open
this 'save autorecover' can stop the PC for half a minute or so
every
few
minutes, as the saves are out of phase; very annoying indeed. The
spontaneous
resets do not always occur, but happen frequently enough to be very
frustrating.

I am quite happy manually to save as I am in completely in the
habit
of
it,
and I do not want the annoyance of having to face a frozen screen
every
few
minutes, so how can I disable 'save autorecover' such that it stays
disabled?

This phenomenon occurs on the three PCs I use. All run fully
updated
XP
and
Word.