I've been trying to debug a custom template file for days, i.e., in my
template, I have created a style for tables, and I set it up to be the
default table style for all docs created from this template.

When I open a doc based on this template and create a table in a doc
based on the template, the style that is applied to the table is the
style present at the cursor where I insert the table. For example, if
TITLE style is present at the cursor where I insert the table, then the
table takes on TITLE style. If heading 5 style is present at the
cursor where I insert the table, then the table takes on heading 5
style. Word just ignores (or appears to ignroe) the font, font size,
etc) associated with the table style

Any ideas?

thanks

What happens if you select the table and press Ctrl+Q?

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Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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I've been trying to debug a custom template file for days, i.e., in my
template, I have created a style for tables, and I set it up to be the
default table style for all docs created from this template.

When I open a doc based on this template and create a table in a doc
based on the template, the style that is applied to the table is the
style present at the cursor where I insert the table. For example, if
TITLE style is present at the cursor where I insert the table, then the
table takes on TITLE style. If heading 5 style is present at the
cursor where I insert the table, then the table takes on heading 5
style. Word just ignores (or appears to ignroe) the font, font size,
etc) associated with the table style

Any ideas?

thanks

Nothing. I expect this because Ctrl-Q removes paragraph formatting
applied by shortcut keys and menu commands, and I am using only styles

I found another "table" bug. Have you ever used "Don't add space
between paragraphs of the same style" (See
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...353711033.aspx)? It
is a handy feature that you can use to create lists. Basically, you
create a style whose "style type" is paragraph, then you include
numbering settings to make this paragrpah behave like a list (bullets,
numbers). Under the Paragraph formatting for this style, you set a
"space before" and a "space after" and click on "Don't add space
between paragraphs of the same style". If you then create a list using
this style surrounded by regular paragraphs, you will get equal spacing
before and after the list, but no spacing between list elements:

This is the first paragraph
space before as defined in style
list item 1
list item 2
list item 3
space after as defined in style
This is the second paragraph

This all works great if you have this in the body of a doucment, but if
you have the same thing in a table cell, spacing apepars between the
list elements. Its as though the "Don't add space between paragraphs
of the same style" setting is being ignored

Thoughts?

Thanks

Unfortunately, many things are ignored in tables, and table styles in
particular seem to be an inadequately executed design concept. It is to be
hoped that a future version of Word will take table styles one step further
and allow users to specify styles (rather than just formatting) for specific
rows, columns, and cells.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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all may benefit.

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Nothing. I expect this because Ctrl-Q removes paragraph formatting
applied by shortcut keys and menu commands, and I am using only styles

I found another "table" bug. Have you ever used "Don't add space
between paragraphs of the same style" (See
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...353711033.aspx)? It
is a handy feature that you can use to create lists. Basically, you
create a style whose "style type" is paragraph, then you include
numbering settings to make this paragrpah behave like a list (bullets,
numbers). Under the Paragraph formatting for this style, you set a
"space before" and a "space after" and click on "Don't add space
between paragraphs of the same style". If you then create a list using
this style surrounded by regular paragraphs, you will get equal spacing
before and after the list, but no spacing between list elements:

This is the first paragraph
space before as defined in style
list item 1
list item 2
list item 3
space after as defined in style
This is the second paragraph

This all works great if you have this in the body of a doucment, but if
you have the same thing in a table cell, spacing apepars between the
list elements. Its as though the "Don't add space between paragraphs
of the same style" setting is being ignored

Thoughts?

Thanks

Hi ,

This is by design. Back in the beta for Word 2002, when this was
introduced, I got into some convoluted discussions on the four types of
styles and what the precedence is. Basically, Table and Number styles
"overlay" the paragraph styles, but don't take predence.

Practically, what it boils down to in this case is that you MUST create
the table in a paragraph formatted as "normal" if you want the table
styles font settings to appear. Any paragraph or character formatting you
apply to text in the table will override the table style settings.

When I open a doc based on this template and create a table in a doc
based on the template, the style that is applied to the table is the
style present at the cursor where I insert the table. For example, if
TITLE style is present at the cursor where I insert the table, then the
table takes on TITLE style. If heading 5 style is present at the
cursor where I insert the table, then the table takes on heading 5
style. Word just ignores (or appears to ignroe) the font, font size,
etc) associated with the table style


Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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Hi ,

I confirm I can duplicate this. Yes, I'd consider it to be a bug.

I found another "table" bug. Have you ever used "Don't add space
between paragraphs of the same style"... If you then create a list
using
this style surrounded by regular paragraphs, you will get equal spacing
before and after the list, but no spacing between list elements:

This is the first paragraph
space before as defined in style
list item 1
list item 2
list item 3
space after as defined in style
This is the second paragraph

This all works great if you have this in the body of a doucment, but if
you have the same thing in a table cell, spacing apepars between the
list elements. Its as though the "Don't add space between paragraphs
of the same style" setting is being ignored


Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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