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I recently upgraded to Word 2003 and am very disappointed that the toolbar
buttons that you make yourself look terrible! Using the Customize function, then right-clicking on a button, you can still go in and "Change button image" but it's as if the resolution is all off. There's no way to draw a straight line anymore, and the result looks horrible. I have always created my own buttom images (or modified existing ones) for functions that didn't have a ready-made image (only the text, which takes up way more room). But there doesn't seem any way to do this now that Word is using these high-resolution button images. Even if I go in and modify one of these new images, it still looks terrible. It doesn't seem to resave it in the same resolution. Is there some trick to this I'm missing? Or is there a place where one can get extra high-res images? Or is there a way to create an image in a graphics program and import it? Thanks. Jo |
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I have Word 2003, and I haven't seen this problem. The button editor
includes a preview that shows you exactly how your button will look. Perhaps your problem arises from your display in some way--screen resolution, ClearType (on an LCD screen), or some other setting? One thing I do notice is that some of Word's built-in buttons use colors that are not available in the color picker, so it is not possible to duplicate the "fuzzy" icons on these buttons, but I prefer not to do that, anyway. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message ... I recently upgraded to Word 2003 and am very disappointed that the toolbar buttons that you make yourself look terrible! Using the Customize function, then right-clicking on a button, you can still go in and "Change button image" but it's as if the resolution is all off. There's no way to draw a straight line anymore, and the result looks horrible. I have always created my own buttom images (or modified existing ones) for functions that didn't have a ready-made image (only the text, which takes up way more room). But there doesn't seem any way to do this now that Word is using these high-resolution button images. Even if I go in and modify one of these new images, it still looks terrible. It doesn't seem to resave it in the same resolution. Is there some trick to this I'm missing? Or is there a place where one can get extra high-res images? Or is there a way to create an image in a graphics program and import it? Thanks. Jo |
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Thanks for replying, Suzanne. I wondered that too at first and I've tested it
in a variety of standard resolutions on my CRT screen but they all show the same thing. When I do a test button with just a single-pixel diagonal line from one corner to the opposite corner, it is always jagged -- regardless of the resolution. I know what you mean about the added colours in the icons. I found that disappointing too but I can live with it. This is a totally separate problem. Any other ideas? It sounds like this might be a technical glitch. Where do I go to report this directly to MS? Thanks again. Jo "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I have Word 2003, and I haven't seen this problem. The button editor includes a preview that shows you exactly how your button will look. Perhaps your problem arises from your display in some way--screen resolution, ClearType (on an LCD screen), or some other setting? One thing I do notice is that some of Word's built-in buttons use colors that are not available in the color picker, so it is not possible to duplicate the "fuzzy" icons on these buttons, but I prefer not to do that, anyway. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message ... I recently upgraded to Word 2003 and am very disappointed that the toolbar buttons that you make yourself look terrible! Using the Customize function, then right-clicking on a button, you can still go in and "Change button image" but it's as if the resolution is all off. There's no way to draw a straight line anymore, and the result looks horrible. I have always created my own buttom images (or modified existing ones) for functions that didn't have a ready-made image (only the text, which takes up way more room). But there doesn't seem any way to do this now that Word is using these high-resolution button images. Even if I go in and modify one of these new images, it still looks terrible. It doesn't seem to resave it in the same resolution. Is there some trick to this I'm missing? Or is there a place where one can get extra high-res images? Or is there a way to create an image in a graphics program and import it? Thanks. Jo |
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I've published a screen shot at
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/i...ttonEditor.gif that illustrates what I'm getting. The image is not a single-pixel diagonal line, so perhaps it doesn't meet your criteria, but I think it looks rather nice. One that does have a single-pixel line is http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/i...tonEditor2.gif. I make no representations about the artistic qualities of this one, but it doesn't seem terribly jaggy to me. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message news Thanks for replying, Suzanne. I wondered that too at first and I've tested it in a variety of standard resolutions on my CRT screen but they all show the same thing. When I do a test button with just a single-pixel diagonal line from one corner to the opposite corner, it is always jagged -- regardless of the resolution. I know what you mean about the added colours in the icons. I found that disappointing too but I can live with it. This is a totally separate problem. Any other ideas? It sounds like this might be a technical glitch. Where do I go to report this directly to MS? Thanks again. Jo "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I have Word 2003, and I haven't seen this problem. The button editor includes a preview that shows you exactly how your button will look. Perhaps your problem arises from your display in some way--screen resolution, ClearType (on an LCD screen), or some other setting? One thing I do notice is that some of Word's built-in buttons use colors that are not available in the color picker, so it is not possible to duplicate the "fuzzy" icons on these buttons, but I prefer not to do that, anyway. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message ... I recently upgraded to Word 2003 and am very disappointed that the toolbar buttons that you make yourself look terrible! Using the Customize function, then right-clicking on a button, you can still go in and "Change button image" but it's as if the resolution is all off. There's no way to draw a straight line anymore, and the result looks horrible. I have always created my own buttom images (or modified existing ones) for functions that didn't have a ready-made image (only the text, which takes up way more room). But there doesn't seem any way to do this now that Word is using these high-resolution button images. Even if I go in and modify one of these new images, it still looks terrible. It doesn't seem to resave it in the same resolution. Is there some trick to this I'm missing? Or is there a place where one can get extra high-res images? Or is there a way to create an image in a graphics program and import it? Thanks. Jo |
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Thanks for posting the images. My test button looks okay when it's in the
button editor too, but looks crummy when it gets onto the tool bar. I've posted two screen captures to show you what I mean: http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/testonly/screencapture.jpg (showing the button editor) http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/testonly/screencapture2.jpg (showing the toolbar version) Again: the toolbar wobbly effect happens no matter what resolution I set my monitor to (it's typically at 1152x864). Very weird. Jo "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've published a screen shot at http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/i...ttonEditor.gif that illustrates what I'm getting. The image is not a single-pixel diagonal line, so perhaps it doesn't meet your criteria, but I think it looks rather nice. One that does have a single-pixel line is http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/i...tonEditor2.gif. I make no representations about the artistic qualities of this one, but it doesn't seem terribly jaggy to me. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message news Thanks for replying, Suzanne. I wondered that too at first and I've tested it in a variety of standard resolutions on my CRT screen but they all show the same thing. When I do a test button with just a single-pixel diagonal line from one corner to the opposite corner, it is always jagged -- regardless of the resolution. I know what you mean about the added colours in the icons. I found that disappointing too but I can live with it. This is a totally separate problem. Any other ideas? It sounds like this might be a technical glitch. Where do I go to report this directly to MS? Thanks again. Jo "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I have Word 2003, and I haven't seen this problem. The button editor includes a preview that shows you exactly how your button will look. Perhaps your problem arises from your display in some way--screen resolution, ClearType (on an LCD screen), or some other setting? One thing I do notice is that some of Word's built-in buttons use colors that are not available in the color picker, so it is not possible to duplicate the "fuzzy" icons on these buttons, but I prefer not to do that, anyway. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message ... I recently upgraded to Word 2003 and am very disappointed that the toolbar buttons that you make yourself look terrible! Using the Customize function, then right-clicking on a button, you can still go in and "Change button image" but it's as if the resolution is all off. There's no way to draw a straight line anymore, and the result looks horrible. I have always created my own buttom images (or modified existing ones) for functions that didn't have a ready-made image (only the text, which takes up way more room). But there doesn't seem any way to do this now that Word is using these high-resolution button images. Even if I go in and modify one of these new images, it still looks terrible. It doesn't seem to resave it in the same resolution. Is there some trick to this I'm missing? Or is there a place where one can get extra high-res images? Or is there a way to create an image in a graphics program and import it? Thanks. Jo |
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This might have something to do with your screen resolution, which looks
rather coarse (your buttons on the toolbar are larger than the preview in the dialog and about twice as big as the ones on my screen). I'm using 1024 x 768 on a 17" monitor. Also check to make sure that you don't have "Large icons" selected on the Options tab of Tools | Customize. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message ... Thanks for posting the images. My test button looks okay when it's in the button editor too, but looks crummy when it gets onto the tool bar. I've posted two screen captures to show you what I mean: http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/testonly/screencapture.jpg (showing the button editor) http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/testonly/screencapture2.jpg (showing the toolbar version) Again: the toolbar wobbly effect happens no matter what resolution I set my monitor to (it's typically at 1152x864). Very weird. Jo "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've published a screen shot at http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/i...ttonEditor.gif that illustrates what I'm getting. The image is not a single-pixel diagonal line, so perhaps it doesn't meet your criteria, but I think it looks rather nice. One that does have a single-pixel line is http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/i...tonEditor2.gif. I make no representations about the artistic qualities of this one, but it doesn't seem terribly jaggy to me. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message news Thanks for replying, Suzanne. I wondered that too at first and I've tested it in a variety of standard resolutions on my CRT screen but they all show the same thing. When I do a test button with just a single-pixel diagonal line from one corner to the opposite corner, it is always jagged -- regardless of the resolution. I know what you mean about the added colours in the icons. I found that disappointing too but I can live with it. This is a totally separate problem. Any other ideas? It sounds like this might be a technical glitch. Where do I go to report this directly to MS? Thanks again. Jo "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I have Word 2003, and I haven't seen this problem. The button editor includes a preview that shows you exactly how your button will look. Perhaps your problem arises from your display in some way--screen resolution, ClearType (on an LCD screen), or some other setting? One thing I do notice is that some of Word's built-in buttons use colors that are not available in the color picker, so it is not possible to duplicate the "fuzzy" icons on these buttons, but I prefer not to do that, anyway. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message ... I recently upgraded to Word 2003 and am very disappointed that the toolbar buttons that you make yourself look terrible! Using the Customize function, then right-clicking on a button, you can still go in and "Change button image" but it's as if the resolution is all off. There's no way to draw a straight line anymore, and the result looks horrible. I have always created my own buttom images (or modified existing ones) for functions that didn't have a ready-made image (only the text, which takes up way more room). But there doesn't seem any way to do this now that Word is using these high-resolution button images. Even if I go in and modify one of these new images, it still looks terrible. It doesn't seem to resave it in the same resolution. Is there some trick to this I'm missing? Or is there a place where one can get extra high-res images? Or is there a way to create an image in a graphics program and import it? Thanks. Jo |
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Hi Suzanne,
Thanks for hanging in there with me! I'm using 1152x864 on a 15" screen. I think the image files look a bit coarse because of the resolution. It's not as fuzzy in the real thing (the actual Word screen) as it is in the image. I don't see how it would be my resolution or screen because it was only when I recently upgraded to Word 2003 from 2000 that I started having this problem. It was fine on the old version. Even the old self-created buttons that got imported in with the upgrade from the previous version look bad. Trying to clean them up with current editing or starting fresh doesn't fix the problem. That diagonal line button was a test that I created just for this test, starting fresh with a new blank button. Actually, I think I might have first noticed the effect when I upgraded FrontPage to 2003 from 2002, not long before I upgraded Office. But the effect was only in FP/03, not in Office/00. Then it was happening in Office after I upgraded to 03. I still think this is some weird technical glitch that MS ought to be aware of and looking at. Can you tell me where I would contact them about this? Thanks again! Jo "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This might have something to do with your screen resolution, which looks rather coarse (your buttons on the toolbar are larger than the preview in the dialog and about twice as big as the ones on my screen). I'm using 1024 x 768 on a 17" monitor. Also check to make sure that you don't have "Large icons" selected on the Options tab of Tools | Customize. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message ... Thanks for posting the images. My test button looks okay when it's in the button editor too, but looks crummy when it gets onto the tool bar. I've posted two screen captures to show you what I mean: http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/testonly/screencapture.jpg (showing the button editor) http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/testonly/screencapture2.jpg (showing the toolbar version) Again: the toolbar wobbly effect happens no matter what resolution I set my monitor to (it's typically at 1152x864). Very weird. Jo "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've published a screen shot at http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/i...ttonEditor.gif that illustrates what I'm getting. The image is not a single-pixel diagonal line, so perhaps it doesn't meet your criteria, but I think it looks rather nice. One that does have a single-pixel line is http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/i...tonEditor2.gif. I make no representations about the artistic qualities of this one, but it doesn't seem terribly jaggy to me. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message news Thanks for replying, Suzanne. I wondered that too at first and I've tested it in a variety of standard resolutions on my CRT screen but they all show the same thing. When I do a test button with just a single-pixel diagonal line from one corner to the opposite corner, it is always jagged -- regardless of the resolution. I know what you mean about the added colours in the icons. I found that disappointing too but I can live with it. This is a totally separate problem. Any other ideas? It sounds like this might be a technical glitch. Where do I go to report this directly to MS? Thanks again. Jo "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I have Word 2003, and I haven't seen this problem. The button editor includes a preview that shows you exactly how your button will look. Perhaps your problem arises from your display in some way--screen resolution, ClearType (on an LCD screen), or some other setting? One thing I do notice is that some of Word's built-in buttons use colors that are not available in the color picker, so it is not possible to duplicate the "fuzzy" icons on these buttons, but I prefer not to do that, anyway. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message ... I recently upgraded to Word 2003 and am very disappointed that the toolbar buttons that you make yourself look terrible! Using the Customize function, then right-clicking on a button, you can still go in and "Change button image" but it's as if the resolution is all off. There's no way to draw a straight line anymore, and the result looks horrible. I have always created my own buttom images (or modified existing ones) for functions that didn't have a ready-made image (only the text, which takes up way more room). But there doesn't seem any way to do this now that Word is using these high-resolution button images. Even if I go in and modify one of these new images, it still looks terrible. It doesn't seem to resave it in the same resolution. Is there some trick to this I'm missing? Or is there a place where one can get extra high-res images? Or is there a way to create an image in a graphics program and import it? Thanks. Jo |
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FWIW, I carefully imported my Normal.dot from Word 97 to Word 2002 (on
different machines) so that I could retrieve my customized buttons, and they turned out *awful.* The conversion had turned my nice clear black lines into "fuzzy" smoothed ones (with the shades of gray). I had to do them over (at least one was improved in the process), but I agree that you seem to have a particular problem. One thing you might investigate: if your screen (like my monitor) provides controls for adjusting the height and width of the display, it may be that the aspect ratio of the display area is just a little bit "off." That still doesn't really explain, however, why the button looks fine in the Button Editor and terrible on the toolbar. I'm running out of ideas; perhaps someone else would like to weigh in? If you don't get any more answers here, you might try posting in microsoft.public.word.drawing.graphics, since I would think the same factors might affect drawings. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message ... Hi Suzanne, Thanks for hanging in there with me! I'm using 1152x864 on a 15" screen. I think the image files look a bit coarse because of the resolution. It's not as fuzzy in the real thing (the actual Word screen) as it is in the image. I don't see how it would be my resolution or screen because it was only when I recently upgraded to Word 2003 from 2000 that I started having this problem. It was fine on the old version. Even the old self-created buttons that got imported in with the upgrade from the previous version look bad. Trying to clean them up with current editing or starting fresh doesn't fix the problem. That diagonal line button was a test that I created just for this test, starting fresh with a new blank button. Actually, I think I might have first noticed the effect when I upgraded FrontPage to 2003 from 2002, not long before I upgraded Office. But the effect was only in FP/03, not in Office/00. Then it was happening in Office after I upgraded to 03. I still think this is some weird technical glitch that MS ought to be aware of and looking at. Can you tell me where I would contact them about this? Thanks again! Jo "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: This might have something to do with your screen resolution, which looks rather coarse (your buttons on the toolbar are larger than the preview in the dialog and about twice as big as the ones on my screen). I'm using 1024 x 768 on a 17" monitor. Also check to make sure that you don't have "Large icons" selected on the Options tab of Tools | Customize. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message ... Thanks for posting the images. My test button looks okay when it's in the button editor too, but looks crummy when it gets onto the tool bar. I've posted two screen captures to show you what I mean: http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/testonly/screencapture.jpg (showing the button editor) http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/testonly/screencapture2.jpg (showing the toolbar version) Again: the toolbar wobbly effect happens no matter what resolution I set my monitor to (it's typically at 1152x864). Very weird. Jo "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I've published a screen shot at http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/i...ttonEditor.gif that illustrates what I'm getting. The image is not a single-pixel diagonal line, so perhaps it doesn't meet your criteria, but I think it looks rather nice. One that does have a single-pixel line is http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/i...tonEditor2.gif. I make no representations about the artistic qualities of this one, but it doesn't seem terribly jaggy to me. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message news Thanks for replying, Suzanne. I wondered that too at first and I've tested it in a variety of standard resolutions on my CRT screen but they all show the same thing. When I do a test button with just a single-pixel diagonal line from one corner to the opposite corner, it is always jagged -- regardless of the resolution. I know what you mean about the added colours in the icons. I found that disappointing too but I can live with it. This is a totally separate problem. Any other ideas? It sounds like this might be a technical glitch. Where do I go to report this directly to MS? Thanks again. Jo "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I have Word 2003, and I haven't seen this problem. The button editor includes a preview that shows you exactly how your button will look. Perhaps your problem arises from your display in some way--screen resolution, ClearType (on an LCD screen), or some other setting? One thing I do notice is that some of Word's built-in buttons use colors that are not available in the color picker, so it is not possible to duplicate the "fuzzy" icons on these buttons, but I prefer not to do that, anyway. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jo" wrote in message ... I recently upgraded to Word 2003 and am very disappointed that the toolbar buttons that you make yourself look terrible! Using the Customize function, then right-clicking on a button, you can still go in and "Change button image" but it's as if the resolution is all off. There's no way to draw a straight line anymore, and the result looks horrible. I have always created my own buttom images (or modified existing ones) for functions that didn't have a ready-made image (only the text, which takes up way more room). But there doesn't seem any way to do this now that Word is using these high-resolution button images. Even if I go in and modify one of these new images, it still looks terrible. It doesn't seem to resave it in the same resolution. Is there some trick to this I'm missing? Or is there a place where one can get extra high-res images? Or is there a way to create an image in a graphics program and import it? Thanks. Jo |
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