I am trying to create a Macro in Word 2003. The document is supposed to
have a different margin and paper tray on the first page. (I have separate
letterhead and 2nd sheet paper trays). There should be a header and a
different margin on the second page. I am having trouble changing the
margin on the second page. I just cannot get the page margin to change and
keep the header from appearing on the first page. Can someone please lead
me in the right direction?

I greatly appreciate any assistance.

Renee

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Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
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"Renee Cabets" wrote in message
...
I am trying to create a Macro in Word 2003. The document is supposed to
have a different margin and paper tray on the first page. (I have separate
letterhead and 2nd sheet paper trays). There should be a header and a
different margin on the second page. I am having trouble changing the
margin on the second page. I just cannot get the page margin to change
and
keep the header from appearing on the first page. Can someone please lead
me in the right direction?

I greatly appreciate any assistance.

Renee

You do NOT need a macro for this, just a proper template. See the
instructions for a multipage letterhead in
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm. Note that you can choose
different paper trays for "First page" and "Other pages" on the Paper tab of
Page Layout.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Renee Cabets" wrote in message
...
I am trying to create a Macro in Word 2003. The document is supposed to
have a different margin and paper tray on the first page. (I have separate
letterhead and 2nd sheet paper trays). There should be a header and a
different margin on the second page. I am having trouble changing the
margin on the second page. I just cannot get the page margin to change
and
keep the header from appearing on the first page. Can someone please lead
me in the right direction?

I greatly appreciate any assistance.

Renee

Thank you for the posts and I have looked into much of the information, but
I am still puzzled. It addresses my issue, but I must be missing something.
I do not want a header to appear on the first page, so I have selected
different first page. My problem occurs with the margins on the second
page. How can I insert formatting so that when I am typing a letter that
automatically goes into a second page the margins change. I believe I have
corrected the header to change to the correct margin, but I am having a
problem with the text.

I greatly appreciate your help in this matter
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You do NOT need a macro for this, just a proper template. See the
instructions for a multipage letterhead in
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm. Note that you can
choose
different paper trays for "First page" and "Other pages" on the Paper tab
of
Page Layout.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Renee Cabets" wrote in message
...
I am trying to create a Macro in Word 2003. The document is supposed to
have a different margin and paper tray on the first page. (I have
separate
letterhead and 2nd sheet paper trays). There should be a header and a
different margin on the second page. I am having trouble changing the
margin on the second page. I just cannot get the page margin to change
and
keep the header from appearing on the first page. Can someone please
lead
me in the right direction?

I greatly appreciate any assistance.

Renee

You change the margins by changing the header/footer. If you just want more
space at the top and bottom, you add that space (or content) to the header
and footer. If you need more margin at one side, you create it with a text
box or frame, as detailed in the "More complex letterhead" section.

And if what you're saying is that you want to change the "margins" of the
header and footer, you do this with paragraph indents (negative if
necessary).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Renee Cabets" wrote in message
...
Thank you for the posts and I have looked into much of the information,
but
I am still puzzled. It addresses my issue, but I must be missing
something.
I do not want a header to appear on the first page, so I have selected
different first page. My problem occurs with the margins on the second
page. How can I insert formatting so that when I am typing a letter that
automatically goes into a second page the margins change. I believe I
have
corrected the header to change to the correct margin, but I am having a
problem with the text.

I greatly appreciate your help in this matter
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You do NOT need a macro for this, just a proper template. See the
instructions for a multipage letterhead in
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm. Note that you can
choose
different paper trays for "First page" and "Other pages" on the Paper
tab
of
Page Layout.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Renee Cabets" wrote in message
...
I am trying to create a Macro in Word 2003. The document is supposed
to
have a different margin and paper tray on the first page. (I have
separate
letterhead and 2nd sheet paper trays). There should be a header and a
different margin on the second page. I am having trouble changing the
margin on the second page. I just cannot get the page margin to
change
and
keep the header from appearing on the first page. Can someone please
lead
me in the right direction?

I greatly appreciate any assistance.

Renee

I did change the margins in the header by the text box, but I can't seem to
change the left side margin in the page when I exit the header. If I am
successful in changing the margin on the 2nd page, it also changes on the
first. If I insert a break, it breaks to the 3rd page. I have been a
WordPerfect user for many years and I am sure I am just missing something
simple. I apparently still think in WordPerfect terms. Thanks again for
your assistance.
Renee
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You change the margins by changing the header/footer. If you just want
more
space at the top and bottom, you add that space (or content) to the header
and footer. If you need more margin at one side, you create it with a text
box or frame, as detailed in the "More complex letterhead" section.

And if what you're saying is that you want to change the "margins" of the
header and footer, you do this with paragraph indents (negative if
necessary).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Renee Cabets" wrote in message
...
Thank you for the posts and I have looked into much of the information,
but
I am still puzzled. It addresses my issue, but I must be missing
something.
I do not want a header to appear on the first page, so I have selected
different first page. My problem occurs with the margins on the second
page. How can I insert formatting so that when I am typing a letter
that
automatically goes into a second page the margins change. I believe I
have
corrected the header to change to the correct margin, but I am having a
problem with the text.

I greatly appreciate your help in this matter
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You do NOT need a macro for this, just a proper template. See the
instructions for a multipage letterhead in
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm. Note that you can
choose
different paper trays for "First page" and "Other pages" on the Paper
tab
of
Page Layout.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Renee Cabets" wrote in message
...
I am trying to create a Macro in Word 2003. The document is
supposed
to
have a different margin and paper tray on the first page. (I have
separate
letterhead and 2nd sheet paper trays). There should be a header and
a
different margin on the second page. I am having trouble changing
the
margin on the second page. I just cannot get the page margin to
change
and
keep the header from appearing on the first page. Can someone
please
lead
me in the right direction?

I greatly appreciate any assistance.

Renee

Have you enabled "Different first page" as instructed in the article? You
anchor the text box to the First Page Header only.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Renee Cabets" wrote in message
...
I did change the margins in the header by the text box, but I can't seem
to
change the left side margin in the page when I exit the header. If I am
successful in changing the margin on the 2nd page, it also changes on the
first. If I insert a break, it breaks to the 3rd page. I have been a
WordPerfect user for many years and I am sure I am just missing something
simple. I apparently still think in WordPerfect terms. Thanks again for
your assistance.
Renee
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You change the margins by changing the header/footer. If you just want
more
space at the top and bottom, you add that space (or content) to the
header
and footer. If you need more margin at one side, you create it with a
text
box or frame, as detailed in the "More complex letterhead" section.

And if what you're saying is that you want to change the "margins" of
the
header and footer, you do this with paragraph indents (negative if
necessary).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Renee Cabets" wrote in message
...
Thank you for the posts and I have looked into much of the
information,
but
I am still puzzled. It addresses my issue, but I must be missing
something.
I do not want a header to appear on the first page, so I have selected
different first page. My problem occurs with the margins on the
second
page. How can I insert formatting so that when I am typing a letter
that
automatically goes into a second page the margins change. I believe I
have
corrected the header to change to the correct margin, but I am having
a
problem with the text.

I greatly appreciate your help in this matter
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You do NOT need a macro for this, just a proper template. See the
instructions for a multipage letterhead in
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm. Note that you can
choose
different paper trays for "First page" and "Other pages" on the
Paper
tab
of
Page Layout.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Renee Cabets" wrote in message
...
I am trying to create a Macro in Word 2003. The document is
supposed
to
have a different margin and paper tray on the first page. (I have
separate
letterhead and 2nd sheet paper trays). There should be a header
and
a
different margin on the second page. I am having trouble changing
the
margin on the second page. I just cannot get the page margin to
change
and
keep the header from appearing on the first page. Can someone
please
lead
me in the right direction?

I greatly appreciate any assistance.

Renee

Suzanne has given you all the instructions you need. You are right that you
are thinking about how to grow oranges but you are dealing with apples. The
text box doesn't change the margins, you don't want to change the margins
but you want it to look and feel like there is a different margin on the
first page. The text box simply pushes the text to the side so that it looks
like there are different margins.

Here is some general info on moving from Word Perfect to Word:

Word and Word Perfect work very differently from one another. Each program's
methods have strengths and weaknesses; but, if you try to use one of these
programs as if it were the other, it is like pushing on a string! You can
easily make a lot of extra work for yourself. In the (short) long term
(weeks rather than years) spending the time to learn Word will save you time
if you are spending any time at all (more than an hour a day) using Word.

See http://www.addbalance.com/word/wordperfect.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ordPerfect.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...AndGotchas.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/RevealCodes.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...Converters.htm
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/conc...ion/index.html
for information on Word for Word Perfect users.

For mo
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...platePart2.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...platePart1.htm
http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Number...gExplained.htm
http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...latesStore.htm


Function Keys

In Word 2000 (or later) You can get the function keys to display in a
special toolbar at the bottom of the screen if you want (something like
pressing F3 twice in WP). The following macro will do this.
Sub ShowMeFunctionKeys()
Commandbars("Function Key Display").Visible = True
End Sub

Word's Extend key (F8) gives something similar to block processing.


Formatting and Styles

Learn about Styles - really learn!
http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm I resisted for years and now
regret every day of those years because although that string was still very
hard to push, it kept getting longer and longer, and had some very important
projects tied to it! Once you understand styles and the Word concept of
organizing things into Chinese boxes everything falls into place and instead
of pushing a string, you can push a button that turns on the very powerful
text processing machine known as Microsoft Word and it will start doing your
work for you instead of running around behind you trying to undo what you
just thought you did.


Converting documents Word / Word Perfect

Some special characters in Word Perfect documents don't convert well to
Word. There is a macro to assist with this described at
http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/...html#macroword and can be found
at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/WPSymbolConv.bas.
This was prepared by Edward Mendelson.
Otherwise, look at the macro from http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=212396
Use these on _copies_!

As for converting documents from Word Perfect to _use_ in Word... In a word,
don't plan on it. I would not recommend using converted documents long-term.
They will be filled with formatting anomolies that will get you at the worst
time. This is especially true of any documents containing automatic
numbering or bullets. Try recreating form documents in Word using the
following process:
In Word Perfect (if you still have it, in Word if not) save your files as
text files.
Use your converted files as references to show you how you want your
formatting to look.
Create a new document in Word and insert the text from the text file. Save
this new document as a Word template. Format it the way you want using
styles, not direct formatting. Save it again.
To use a template within Word, use File = New and pick your template. This
will create a new document for you.

Merge documents have special problems and should be recreated from text
files or retyped in Word. To convert data files, consider generating labels
in WP as a document, converting that to Word, and then using
http://www.gmayor.com/convert_labels...mail_merge.htm to get a new Word
data file.

Note that conversions usually do create documents that look passable and
print OK; the problems I'm referring to have to do with editing / making
changes, that is, using the documents long-term. (See below on reusing
documents vs. using templates.)

Conversion back to Word Perfect: There is a problem (in addition to the ones
mentioned for conversion _to_ Word) with Version 2002 (XP) and later of
Word. The conversion file only works for conversion _to_ Word, not from Word
to Word Perfect! Earlier versions went both ways. To fix this, you need to
find the old conversion file WPFT532.CNV from a Word 97 or Word 2000
installation and copy it to your new installation, replacing the file of the
same name. Note, the change making the file one-way was done as a security
measure. While I don't know of any problems the old file causes, keep the
new installation's file somewhere as a backup just in case.


Boilerplate and Forms

In WP a lot of people use macros to hold chunks of text - boilerplate. In
Word this function is filled by Templates, AutoText and AutoCorrect, not
macros. Follow the links at
http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebre...s.htm#AutoText for more
information on these tools.

You can use FILLIN and ASK fields or UserForms to query the user. For more
about online forms, follow the links at
http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#Forms or
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...nTheBlanks.htm especially Dian
Chapman's series of articles. You may also want to look at
http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/TblsFl...nesInForms.htm.


Reusing Documents vs. Using templates

General practice in WP is to have a document and copy and edit it to create
a new document. This is not good practice in Word. In Word, construct a
good, tight, template for your documents and use that template when
constructing new documents. Among other things, this can avoid embarrassing
"metadata" (http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/metadata.htm) and things
like surprise headers and footers from creeping into new documents.

It's a lot of reading, I know. It's OK to chunk it down and do a bit each
day, but I would recommend that you make it a top priority to do that bit
each day. In the (short) long run, it will save you both time and grief.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs which is awesome!

My criminal law site: http://addbalance.com
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This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

"Renee Cabets" wrote in message
...
I did change the margins in the header by the text box, but I can't seem to
change the left side margin in the page when I exit the header. If I am
successful in changing the margin on the 2nd page, it also changes on the
first. If I insert a break, it breaks to the 3rd page. I have been a
WordPerfect user for many years and I am sure I am just missing something
simple. I apparently still think in WordPerfect terms. Thanks again for
your assistance.
Renee
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You change the margins by changing the header/footer. If you just want
more
space at the top and bottom, you add that space (or content) to the
header
and footer. If you need more margin at one side, you create it with a
text
box or frame, as detailed in the "More complex letterhead" section.

And if what you're saying is that you want to change the "margins" of the
header and footer, you do this with paragraph indents (negative if
necessary).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Renee Cabets" wrote in message
...
Thank you for the posts and I have looked into much of the information,
but
I am still puzzled. It addresses my issue, but I must be missing
something.
I do not want a header to appear on the first page, so I have selected
different first page. My problem occurs with the margins on the second
page. How can I insert formatting so that when I am typing a letter
that
automatically goes into a second page the margins change. I believe I
have
corrected the header to change to the correct margin, but I am having a
problem with the text.

I greatly appreciate your help in this matter
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You do NOT need a macro for this, just a proper template. See the
instructions for a multipage letterhead in
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm. Note that you can
choose
different paper trays for "First page" and "Other pages" on the Paper
tab
of
Page Layout.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Renee Cabets" wrote in message
...
I am trying to create a Macro in Word 2003. The document is
supposed
to
have a different margin and paper tray on the first page. (I have
separate
letterhead and 2nd sheet paper trays). There should be a header
and
a
different margin on the second page. I am having trouble changing
the
margin on the second page. I just cannot get the page margin to
change
and
keep the header from appearing on the first page. Can someone
please
lead
me in the right direction?

I greatly appreciate any assistance.

Renee