FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with the template. In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format | Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with the template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm. You
cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work), but you
can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename it, then
it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you don't have
the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should be used;
see “You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in Word” at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't. Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem
is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see
anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with the template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document"). If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

Suzanne...

I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that first
before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same approach
doesn't work for hyphenation.

I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic hyphenation,
but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for myself. If
you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which allows you
to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic
Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't show it
like it shows the page layout.

Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might?

Thanks again...

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
You
cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work), but you
can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename it,
then
it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you don't
have
the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should be
used;
see “You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in Word” at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features you want -- except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you can't.
Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That problem
is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't see
anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is being
saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with the
template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any different for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation settings
in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this document").
If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set it even
for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new file
from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are saying that
you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word won't let
me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen, I
can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get hyphenation
enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it doesn't
work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word,
perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed
supports this theory.

--
Stefan Blom


"Phil James" wrote:

Suzanne...

I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that
first
before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same
approach
doesn't work for hyphenation.

I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic
hyphenation,
but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for
myself. If
you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which
allows you
to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic
Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't
show it
like it shows the page layout.

Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might?

Thanks again...

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
You
cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work),
but you
can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename
it,
then
it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you
don't
have
the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should
be
used;
see “You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in
Word” at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features you want --
except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you
can't.
Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That
problem
is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't
see
anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is
being
saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a
template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you
open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with the
template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any different
for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation
settings
in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could
become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this
document").
If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in
Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with
this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set
it even
for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the
hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new
file
from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are
saying that
you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other
things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page
different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word
won't let
me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

Stefan...

That's encouraging news. I'll try it again.

You're right: If all the other stuff works I don't see a reason that that
wouldn't.

Phil

Stefan Blom wrote in message
...
I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen, I
can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get hyphenation
enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it doesn't
work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word,
perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed
supports this theory.

--
Stefan Blom


"Phil James" wrote:

Suzanne...

I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that
first
before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same
approach
doesn't work for hyphenation.

I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic
hyphenation,
but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for
myself. If
you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which
allows you
to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic
Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't
show it
like it shows the page layout.

Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might?

Thanks again...

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
You
cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work),
but you
can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename
it,
then
it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you
don't
have
the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should
be
used;
see "You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in
Word" at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features you want --
except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you
can't.
Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That
problem
is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't
see
anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is
being
saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a
template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you
open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with the
template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any different
for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation
settings
in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could
become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this
document").
If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in
Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with
this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set
it even
for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the
hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new
file
from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are
saying that
you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other
things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page
different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word
won't let
me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

Stefan...

Just tried it again. I open a new document, change the hyphenation, change
the page layout, change style (a font), check "add to template," then get
out of the nested instructions, and yes, the hyphenation (and everything
else) is present for that document. But if I delete it and get a new one,
everything stays except the hyphenation option. Unless somebody comes up
with a better idea, I guess I'll just have to change it for each document --
though that seems as if it should be unnecessary.

I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and Office 2000 on an IBM ThinkPad
A27m. Know of any quirks with any of those items?

Thanks for trying!

Phil

PS: I might just post that particular question and see if anybody else
responds.


Stefan Blom wrote in message
...
I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen, I
can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get hyphenation
enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it doesn't
work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word,
perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed
supports this theory.

--
Stefan Blom


"Phil James" wrote:

Suzanne...

I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing that
first
before changing the style and "saving to template." But the same
approach
doesn't work for hyphenation.

I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic
hyphenation,
but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for
myself. If
you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which
allows you
to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select "Automatic
Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot doesn't
show it
like it shows the page layout.

Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might?

Thanks again...

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
You
cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will work),
but you
can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or rename
it,
then
it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which you
don't
have
the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot should
be
used;
see "You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users in
Word" at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features you want --
except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you
can't.
Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it. That
problem
is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just don't
see
anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting is
being
saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a
template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if you
open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with the
template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any different
for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were hyphenation
settings
in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which could
become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this
document").
If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one in
Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar with
this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to set
it even
for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the
hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a new
file
from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are
saying that
you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
For starters, see

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few other
things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page
different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but Word
won't let
me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

You cannot transfer hyphenation settings via "Add to template", since
it's not a style thing, but a global document property. You can change
the template if you open it via FileOpen, but for existing documents
you need to perform the change manually for each document.

--
Stefan Blom


"Phil James" wrote:

Stefan...

Just tried it again. I open a new document, change the hyphenation,
change
the page layout, change style (a font), check "add to template,"
then get
out of the nested instructions, and yes, the hyphenation (and
everything
else) is present for that document. But if I delete it and get a
new one,
everything stays except the hyphenation option. Unless somebody
comes up
with a better idea, I guess I'll just have to change it for each
document --
though that seems as if it should be unnecessary.

I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and Office 2000 on an IBM
ThinkPad
A27m. Know of any quirks with any of those items?

Thanks for trying!

Phil

PS: I might just post that particular question and see if anybody
else
responds.


Stefan Blom wrote in message
...
I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen,
I
can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get
hyphenation
enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it
doesn't
work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word,
perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed
supports this theory.

--
Stefan Blom


"Phil James" wrote:

Suzanne...

I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing
that
first
before changing the style and "saving to template." But the
same
approach
doesn't work for hyphenation.

I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic
hyphenation,
but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for
myself. If
you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which
allows you
to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select
"Automatic
Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot
doesn't
show it
like it shows the page layout.

Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might?

Thanks again...

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
See

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
You
cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will
work),
but you
can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or
rename
it,
then
it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which
you
don't
have
the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot
should
be
used;
see "You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users
in
Word" at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features you
want --
except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you
can't.
Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it.
That
problem
is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just
don't
see
anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting
is
being
saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a
template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if
you
open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with
the
template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any
different
for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were
hyphenation
settings
in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which
could
become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that
are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this
document").
If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one
in
Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar
with
this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to
set
it even
for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the
hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a
new
file
from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are
saying that
you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in
message
...
For starters, see


http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all
follow-ups
to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in
message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few
other
things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page
different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but
Word
won't let
me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

To add to what Stefan has said, if the template in question is Normal.dot,
then you will have to open Normal.dot for editing and make the change there.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You cannot transfer hyphenation settings via "Add to template", since
it's not a style thing, but a global document property. You can change
the template if you open it via FileOpen, but for existing documents
you need to perform the change manually for each document.

--
Stefan Blom


"Phil James" wrote:

Stefan...

Just tried it again. I open a new document, change the hyphenation,
change
the page layout, change style (a font), check "add to template,"
then get
out of the nested instructions, and yes, the hyphenation (and
everything
else) is present for that document. But if I delete it and get a
new one,
everything stays except the hyphenation option. Unless somebody
comes up
with a better idea, I guess I'll just have to change it for each
document --
though that seems as if it should be unnecessary.

I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and Office 2000 on an IBM
ThinkPad
A27m. Know of any quirks with any of those items?

Thanks for trying!

Phil

PS: I might just post that particular question and see if anybody
else
responds.


Stefan Blom wrote in message
...
I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen,
I
can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get
hyphenation
enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it
doesn't
work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word,
perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed
supports this theory.

--
Stefan Blom


"Phil James" wrote:

Suzanne...

I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing
that
first
before changing the style and "saving to template." But the
same
approach
doesn't work for hyphenation.

I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic
hyphenation,
but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for
myself. If
you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which
allows you
to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select
"Automatic
Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot
doesn't
show it
like it shows the page layout.

Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might?

Thanks again...

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
See

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
You
cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will
work),
but you
can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or
rename
it,
then
it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which
you
don't
have
the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot
should
be
used;
see "You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users
in
Word" at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features you
want --
except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you
can't.
Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it.
That
problem
is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just
don't
see
anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting
is
being
saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a
template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if
you
open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with
the
template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any
different
for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were
hyphenation
settings
in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which
could
become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that
are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this
document").
If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one
in
Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar
with
this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to
set
it even
for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the
hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a
new
file
from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are
saying that
you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in
message
...
For starters, see


http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all
follow-ups
to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in
message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few
other
things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page
different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but
Word
won't let
me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

Finally got it to work. I think what I was doing was trying to save
Normal.dot in one of the My Documents files. When I called it up from its
own location and saved it back there after revision, everything worked fine.

Thanks, both of you, for your help!

Phil


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
To add to what Stefan has said, if the template in question is Normal.dot,
then you will have to open Normal.dot for editing and make the change
there.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You cannot transfer hyphenation settings via "Add to template", since
it's not a style thing, but a global document property. You can change
the template if you open it via FileOpen, but for existing documents
you need to perform the change manually for each document.

--
Stefan Blom


"Phil James" wrote:

Stefan...

Just tried it again. I open a new document, change the hyphenation,
change
the page layout, change style (a font), check "add to template,"
then get
out of the nested instructions, and yes, the hyphenation (and
everything
else) is present for that document. But if I delete it and get a
new one,
everything stays except the hyphenation option. Unless somebody
comes up
with a better idea, I guess I'll just have to change it for each
document --
though that seems as if it should be unnecessary.

I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and Office 2000 on an IBM
ThinkPad
A27m. Know of any quirks with any of those items?

Thanks for trying!

Phil

PS: I might just post that particular question and see if anybody
else
responds.


Stefan Blom wrote in message
...
I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via FileOpen,
I
can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get
hyphenation
enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it
doesn't
work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of Word,
perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are allowed
supports this theory.

--
Stefan Blom


"Phil James" wrote:

Suzanne...

I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by doing
that
first
before changing the style and "saving to template." But the
same
approach
doesn't work for hyphenation.

I know you said you don't have much experience with automatic
hyphenation,
but perhaps you can find something for me better than I can for
myself. If
you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box which
allows you
to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select
"Automatic
Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved Normal.dot
doesn't
show it
like it shows the page layout.

Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might?

Thanks again...

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
See

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
You
cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that will
work),
but you
can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete or
rename
it,
then
it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for which
you
don't
have
the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way Normal.dot
should
be
used;
see "You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple users
in
Word" at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features you
want --
except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying and you
can't.
Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace it.
That
problem
is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I just
don't
see
anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the setting
is
being
saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in a
template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and that if
you
open the
template and make the change there it would be stored with
the
template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any
different
for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were
hyphenation
settings
in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab, which
could
become a
Language tab), since there are already settings there that
are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in this
document").
If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to the one
in
Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not familiar
with
this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh impossible to
set
it even
for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific setting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the
hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I create a
new
file
from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you are
saying that
you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in
message
...
For starters, see


http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all
follow-ups
to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in
message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a few
other
things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first page
different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot" but
Word
won't let
me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified one.

How do I do this?

Phil

You're welcome.

--
Stefan Blom


"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Finally got it to work. I think what I was doing was trying to save
Normal.dot in one of the My Documents files. When I called it up
from its
own location and saved it back there after revision, everything
worked fine.

Thanks, both of you, for your help!

Phil


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
To add to what Stefan has said, if the template in question is
Normal.dot,
then you will have to open Normal.dot for editing and make the
change
there.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You cannot transfer hyphenation settings via "Add to template",
since
it's not a style thing, but a global document property. You can
change
the template if you open it via FileOpen, but for existing
documents
you need to perform the change manually for each document.

--
Stefan Blom


"Phil James" wrote:

Stefan...

Just tried it again. I open a new document, change the
hyphenation,
change
the page layout, change style (a font), check "add to
template,"
then get
out of the nested instructions, and yes, the hyphenation (and
everything
else) is present for that document. But if I delete it and
get a
new one,
everything stays except the hyphenation option. Unless
somebody
comes up
with a better idea, I guess I'll just have to change it for
each
document --
though that seems as if it should be unnecessary.

I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and Office 2000 on an
IBM
ThinkPad
A27m. Know of any quirks with any of those items?

Thanks for trying!

Phil

PS: I might just post that particular question and see if
anybody
else
responds.


Stefan Blom wrote in message
...
I just tested, and if I open normal.dot as a file, via
FileOpen,
I
can certainly enable hyphenation for it, save and then get
hyphenation
enabled for each new blank document. I can't explain why it
doesn't
work for you, though. A bug affecting certain releases of
Word,
perhaps? In my opinion, the fact that other changes are
allowed
supports this theory.

--
Stefan Blom


"Phil James" wrote:

Suzanne...

I was able to change the page layout for Normal.dot by
doing
that
first
before changing the style and "saving to template." But
the
same
approach
doesn't work for hyphenation.

I know you said you don't have much experience with
automatic
hyphenation,
but perhaps you can find something for me better than I
can for
myself. If
you go to ToolsLanguageHyphenation there's a dialog box
which
allows you
to make choices regarding hyphenation. Even if I select
"Automatic
Hyphenation" before doing other things, the saved
Normal.dot
doesn't
show it
like it shows the page layout.

Any further thoughts? Anyone you know who might?

Thanks again...

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in message
...
See


http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
You
cannot create Normal.dot (or a substitute for it that
will
work),
but you
can certainly edit it. If you find that you can't delete
or
rename
it,
then
it's possible that it is saved in a network folder for
which
you
don't
have
the requisite permissions. This is *not* the way
Normal.dot
should
be
used;
see "You cannot share the Normal.dot file among multiple
users
in
Word" at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811468

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to
the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Phil James" wrote in message
...

Thanks, Suzanne and Stephan.

Here's my experience:

You can create any custom template with any features
you
want --
except
Normal.dot! Try to save Normal.dot after modifying
and you
can't.
Also,
you can't delete it or rename it, so you can't replace
it.
That
problem
is
what I'm trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Phil

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote in
message
...
I would be pleased to believe it works this way. I
just
don't
see
anything
in the hyphenation dialog that suggests that the
setting
is
being
saved
with
the document or that there is any way to save it in
a
template. But it
would
make sense that it is stored in the document, and
that if
you
open the
template and make the change there it would be
stored with
the
template.
In
that case, there is no reason that it should be any
different
for
Normal.dot. This would be clearer if there were
hyphenation
settings
in
Tools | Options (on the Spelling and Grammar tab,
which
could
become a
Language tab), since there are already settings
there that
are
language-specific (such as "Hide spelling errors in
this
document").
If
there were an "Add to template" option similar to
the one
in
Format |
Style
| Modify, that would be useful, too.

Since I don't ever use auto hyphenation, I'm not
familiar
with
this
feature,
and ISTR that in Publisher it is well-nigh
impossible to
set
it even
for
an
entire document (seems to be a text-box-specific
setting).

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Words into Type
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"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored
in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

I just tested creating a custom template with the
hyphenation option
enabled, and it seems to be working: Whenever I
create a
new
file
from
that template, hyphenation is enabled. Perhaps you
are
saying that
you
believe it works differently for normal.dot?

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote
in
message
...
For starters, see



http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm.
FWIW, I
suspect that the hyphenation setting is stored
in the
Registry
rather than
Normal.dot.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Phil James" wrote in
message
...

Help!

I can customize paragraph format, font, and a
few
other
things.
What I
can't customize is page layout (to give "first
page
different")
and turn
on
automatic hyphenation.

I tried to do this by modifying "Normal.dot"
but
Word
won't let
me
save
the
modified version nor delete the unmodified
one.

How do I do this?

Phil