[Distressed]

Hi there,

I have been using captions to number Definitions, Lemmas, Theorems etc. The
thing is, I want to have:
Theorem 7.1 let blah blah blah (text)

where the Theorem 7.1 is Bold. The trouble is, Word thinks that the WHOLE
LINE should be the same format - so it then changes the rest to Caption style
(bold size 10). Two questions:

1) Is there any way to tell Word that actually only the number is the
caption (I have checked the box that does not include the label, using the
same label/caption type for my theorems, defns etc)

2) This chapter is in its own right - so it is theoretically chapter 0
according to Word. I have had to put a dummy '7' entry at the start using
Numbered Headings so that it labels my captions 7.1, 7.2 etc. How do I get
round this as I don't want the 7 in my doc?

Thanks

[Robert M. Franz (RMF)]

Distressed wrote:
I have been using captions to number Definitions, Lemmas, Theorems etc. The
thing is, I want to have:
Theorem 7.1 let blah blah blah (text)

where the Theorem 7.1 is Bold. The trouble is, Word thinks that the WHOLE
LINE should be the same format - so it then changes the rest to Caption style
(bold size 10). Two questions:

Which might even be picked up later on as direct formatting (say, in a
Table of Theorems :-)).


1) Is there any way to tell Word that actually only the number is the
caption (I have checked the box that does not include the label, using the
same label/caption type for my theorems, defns etc)

I would use the KISS principle and define an AutoText containing an
entry in the desired style (caption) with the necessary (and bolded!)
SEQ field for the caption and a tab (unbolded). I would out of habit
leave the style unbolded and bold the field through direct formatting or
the "strong" character style.


2) This chapter is in its own right - so it is theoretically chapter 0
according to Word. I have had to put a dummy '7' entry at the start using
Numbered Headings so that it labels my captions 7.1, 7.2 etc. How do I get
round this as I don't want the 7 in my doc?

Hmm, can you elaborate a bit? Is this chapter later on assembled into a
larger document with others? Then I would simply not care and leave it
as it is (and do all page layout work in the final document). If not,
well, what besides "7" _do_ you want to have there?

Greetinx
Robert
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[Distressed]

Ok... so that seems to work so far. I had not heard of autotext before!! -
only very recently by reading posts and not understanding what it was on
about!

Should I keep the autotext type as 'Caption' or 'Normal' or doesn't it
matter? I mean if I want to turn it into a list of Figures later?

Also, if I want to do this for my Theorems and Definitions, how can I keep
the numbering continuous for instance:
Definition 7.1
Theorem 7.2
Definition 7.3

as opposed to :
Definition 7.1
Theorem 7.1
Definition 7.2
???

With the chapter 7 issue I will probably combine into 1 doc eventually so
will ignore that for now as you suggested.

Thanks for the help!

Anna


"Robert M. Franz (RMF)" wrote:

Distressed wrote:
I have been using captions to number Definitions, Lemmas, Theorems etc. The
thing is, I want to have:
Theorem 7.1 let blah blah blah (text)

where the Theorem 7.1 is Bold. The trouble is, Word thinks that the WHOLE
LINE should be the same format - so it then changes the rest to Caption style
(bold size 10). Two questions:

Which might even be picked up later on as direct formatting (say, in a
Table of Theorems :-)).


1) Is there any way to tell Word that actually only the number is the
caption (I have checked the box that does not include the label, using the
same label/caption type for my theorems, defns etc)

I would use the KISS principle and define an AutoText containing an
entry in the desired style (caption) with the necessary (and bolded!)
SEQ field for the caption and a tab (unbolded). I would out of habit
leave the style unbolded and bold the field through direct formatting or
the "strong" character style.


2) This chapter is in its own right - so it is theoretically chapter 0
according to Word. I have had to put a dummy '7' entry at the start using
Numbered Headings so that it labels my captions 7.1, 7.2 etc. How do I get
round this as I don't want the 7 in my doc?

Hmm, can you elaborate a bit? Is this chapter later on assembled into a
larger document with others? Then I would simply not care and leave it
as it is (and do all page layout work in the final document). If not,
well, what besides "7" _do_ you want to have there?

Greetinx
Robert
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[Distressed]

Also, don't know if you can solve this one...

Because I had made all my theorems into captions (to get the numbering), and
subsequently the rest of the line turned into Caption style, I now need to
get them back to normal.
The trouble is, when I try to apply the Normal Format, it wipes out all
other formatting within the selected text - such as italic and sub-script and
super-script. This is a REAL PAIN for some lines - there are 15 individually
italicised letters or so!

Any way round this?

Thanks

"Robert M. Franz (RMF)" wrote:

Distressed wrote:
I have been using captions to number Definitions, Lemmas, Theorems etc. The
thing is, I want to have:
Theorem 7.1 let blah blah blah (text)

where the Theorem 7.1 is Bold. The trouble is, Word thinks that the WHOLE
LINE should be the same format - so it then changes the rest to Caption style
(bold size 10). Two questions:

Which might even be picked up later on as direct formatting (say, in a
Table of Theorems :-)).


1) Is there any way to tell Word that actually only the number is the
caption (I have checked the box that does not include the label, using the
same label/caption type for my theorems, defns etc)

I would use the KISS principle and define an AutoText containing an
entry in the desired style (caption) with the necessary (and bolded!)
SEQ field for the caption and a tab (unbolded). I would out of habit
leave the style unbolded and bold the field through direct formatting or
the "strong" character style.


2) This chapter is in its own right - so it is theoretically chapter 0
according to Word. I have had to put a dummy '7' entry at the start using
Numbered Headings so that it labels my captions 7.1, 7.2 etc. How do I get
round this as I don't want the 7 in my doc?

Hmm, can you elaborate a bit? Is this chapter later on assembled into a
larger document with others? Then I would simply not care and leave it
as it is (and do all page layout work in the final document). If not,
well, what besides "7" _do_ you want to have there?

Greetinx
Robert
--
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\ / | MVP
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[Robert M. Franz (RMF)]

Hi Anna

Distressed wrote:
Ok... so that seems to work so far. I had not heard of autotext before!! -
only very recently by reading posts and not understanding what it was on
about!

That's probably how we all learn a new thingy. :-)


Should I keep the autotext type as 'Caption' or 'Normal' or doesn't it
matter? I mean if I want to turn it into a list of Figures later?

I would choose "Caption" (simply because that way, it's easier to
afterwards, say, shrink the fonts of all captions).


Also, if I want to do this for my Theorems and Definitions, how can I keep
the numbering continuous for instance:
Definition 7.1
Theorem 7.2
Definition 7.3

Personally, I think that's flawed -- like counting apples and oranges
(but then again, I'm not a big fan of using chapter numbers in the first
place :-)).

But you'd have to use the same SEQ field in all AutoTexts, and then it
should be feasible.

Greetinx
Robert
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[Distressed]

Hmmm well I have to abide by some kind of regulations I'm afraid! and if I
restarted the numbering for the definitions, theorems and Lemmas and Tables
and Figures it would get most confusing - don't you think?? Personally I'm
all for no formatting at all! - Word seems to change any formatting I try to
do so what difference does it make? ;o)

anyway, thanks for your help. I shall continue the struggle. Maybe next
time I can just pay someone to write my thesis for me!!
A

"Robert M. Franz (RMF)" wrote:

Hi Anna

Distressed wrote:
Ok... so that seems to work so far. I had not heard of autotext before!! -
only very recently by reading posts and not understanding what it was on
about!

That's probably how we all learn a new thingy. :-)


Should I keep the autotext type as 'Caption' or 'Normal' or doesn't it
matter? I mean if I want to turn it into a list of Figures later?

I would choose "Caption" (simply because that way, it's easier to
afterwards, say, shrink the fonts of all captions).


Also, if I want to do this for my Theorems and Definitions, how can I keep
the numbering continuous for instance:
Definition 7.1
Theorem 7.2
Definition 7.3

Personally, I think that's flawed -- like counting apples and oranges
(but then again, I'm not a big fan of using chapter numbers in the first
place :-)).

But you'd have to use the same SEQ field in all AutoTexts, and then it
should be feasible.

Greetinx
Robert
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\ / | MVP
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