[xppuser]

hi all,

office 2003 pro sp2 and wxp pro sp2,

i have a problem that i cannot seem to rectify and would therefore
appreciate advice/help to find out what's the problem and how to solve it.

i have a word document, i did Insert - Page Numbers - Position: Bottom of
page (Footer), Alignment: Right, and Show number of first page unticked. well
for some reasons, numbering only starts on page 7, which was correctly
numbered as page 7. when i clicked on the number itself i.e. page number 7,
which incidentally is shaded grey, a box appeared with a title of Footer -
Section 6. here's the strange bit - if i use Header and Footer tool bar to
manually insert the page number, the page number would appear but on page 7,
there will be two numbers, one, which i presumed from Insert - Page Numbers
and one from the Header and Footer.

i found http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/PageNumbering.htm when i googled
this problem but unfortunately when i tried to use {Page} what happened next
baffled me even more... page 1 would appear on page 1 except that i do not
want page 1 number to appear on the first page. page 2 right through to 6
correctly numbered but on page 7, there is no page 7. what there is, was a
'{Page...}' shaded grey.

i hope my description was not too confusing! if it was, please do let me
know which bit(s) and i shall try to describe it again. thank you for your
advice/help.

jes

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

If this is section 6, then Word is doing just what you told it to: it's
putting no page number on the first page of sections 1-5 (pages 1-6), then
putting a page number on the second page of section 6. You probably need to
figure out why you have five section breaks in the first six pages.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"xppuser" wrote in message
...
hi all,

office 2003 pro sp2 and wxp pro sp2,

i have a problem that i cannot seem to rectify and would therefore
appreciate advice/help to find out what's the problem and how to solve it.

i have a word document, i did Insert - Page Numbers - Position: Bottom
of
page (Footer), Alignment: Right, and Show number of first page unticked.
well
for some reasons, numbering only starts on page 7, which was correctly
numbered as page 7. when i clicked on the number itself i.e. page number
7,
which incidentally is shaded grey, a box appeared with a title of Footer -
Section 6. here's the strange bit - if i use Header and Footer tool bar to
manually insert the page number, the page number would appear but on page
7,
there will be two numbers, one, which i presumed from Insert - Page
Numbers
and one from the Header and Footer.

i found http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/PageNumbering.htm when i
googled
this problem but unfortunately when i tried to use {Page} what happened
next
baffled me even more... page 1 would appear on page 1 except that i do not
want page 1 number to appear on the first page. page 2 right through to 6
correctly numbered but on page 7, there is no page 7. what there is, was a
'{Page...}' shaded grey.

i hope my description was not too confusing! if it was, please do let me
know which bit(s) and i shall try to describe it again. thank you for your
advice/help.

jes

[xppuser]

hi suzanne,

thank you again for your reply. i have trialled a bit using page break
instead of section break and adding page numbering. i never quite realise
that section break would fundementally affect the page numbering system. it
is quite amazing that i have been using words for some years now (perhaps
wrongly) by always using section breaks rather than page break to break up
pages because (seems to me from early on - which is probably why the (bad)
habit developed eversince) breaks using section breaks just seemed to be more
'versatile' somehow compared to page breaks.

do you how a general advice when to use page break and when to use section
break? in the recent massive document that i completed there were (probably
needless in retrospect) hundreds of section break where i suppose page break
would suffice.

again thank you,
jes

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If this is section 6, then Word is doing just what you told it to: it's
putting no page number on the first page of sections 1-5 (pages 1-6), then
putting a page number on the second page of section 6. You probably need to
figure out why you have five section breaks in the first six pages.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"xppuser" wrote in message
...
hi all,

office 2003 pro sp2 and wxp pro sp2,

i have a problem that i cannot seem to rectify and would therefore
appreciate advice/help to find out what's the problem and how to solve it.

i have a word document, i did Insert - Page Numbers - Position: Bottom
of
page (Footer), Alignment: Right, and Show number of first page unticked.
well
for some reasons, numbering only starts on page 7, which was correctly
numbered as page 7. when i clicked on the number itself i.e. page number
7,
which incidentally is shaded grey, a box appeared with a title of Footer -
Section 6. here's the strange bit - if i use Header and Footer tool bar to
manually insert the page number, the page number would appear but on page
7,
there will be two numbers, one, which i presumed from Insert - Page
Numbers
and one from the Header and Footer.

i found http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/PageNumbering.htm when i
googled
this problem but unfortunately when i tried to use {Page} what happened
next
baffled me even more... page 1 would appear on page 1 except that i do not
want page 1 number to appear on the first page. page 2 right through to 6
correctly numbered but on page 7, there is no page 7. what there is, was a
'{Page...}' shaded grey.

i hope my description was not too confusing! if it was, please do let me
know which bit(s) and i shall try to describe it again. thank you for your
advice/help.

jes

[xppuser]

hi suzanne,

thank you again for your reply. i have trialled a bit using page break
instead of section break and adding page numbering. i never quite realise
that section break would fundementally affect the page numbering system. it
is quite amazing that i have been using words for some years now (perhaps
wrongly) by always using section breaks rather than page break to break up
pages because (seems to me from early on - which is probably why the (bad)
habit developed eversince) breaks using section breaks just seemed to be more
'versatile' somehow compared to page breaks.

do you how a general advice when to use page break and when to use section
break? in the recent massive document that i completed there were (probably
needless in retrospect) hundreds of section break where i suppose page break
would suffice.

again thank you,
jes


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If this is section 6, then Word is doing just what you told it to: it's
putting no page number on the first page of sections 1-5 (pages 1-6), then
putting a page number on the second page of section 6. You probably need to
figure out why you have five section breaks in the first six pages.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"xppuser" wrote in message
...
hi all,

office 2003 pro sp2 and wxp pro sp2,

i have a problem that i cannot seem to rectify and would therefore
appreciate advice/help to find out what's the problem and how to solve it.

i have a word document, i did Insert - Page Numbers - Position: Bottom
of
page (Footer), Alignment: Right, and Show number of first page unticked.
well
for some reasons, numbering only starts on page 7, which was correctly
numbered as page 7. when i clicked on the number itself i.e. page number
7,
which incidentally is shaded grey, a box appeared with a title of Footer -
Section 6. here's the strange bit - if i use Header and Footer tool bar to
manually insert the page number, the page number would appear but on page
7,
there will be two numbers, one, which i presumed from Insert - Page
Numbers
and one from the Header and Footer.

i found http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/PageNumbering.htm when i
googled
this problem but unfortunately when i tried to use {Page} what happened
next
baffled me even more... page 1 would appear on page 1 except that i do not
want page 1 number to appear on the first page. page 2 right through to 6
correctly numbered but on page 7, there is no page 7. what there is, was a
'{Page...}' shaded grey.

i hope my description was not too confusing! if it was, please do let me
know which bit(s) and i shall try to describe it again. thank you for your
advice/help.

jes

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I rarely use page breaks at all (see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TextReflow.htm for some tips on
controlling text flow without them). When I do need page breaks, I use a
style (Heading 1 usually) formatted as "Page break before." I use section
breaks where they are needed in order to change page size or orientation,
margins, number of columns, etc. In books with chapter, I use a section
break between chapters so that I can take advantage of the "Different first
page" header in each chapter.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"xppuser" wrote in message
news
hi suzanne,

thank you again for your reply. i have trialled a bit using page break
instead of section break and adding page numbering. i never quite realise
that section break would fundementally affect the page numbering system.
it
is quite amazing that i have been using words for some years now (perhaps
wrongly) by always using section breaks rather than page break to break up
pages because (seems to me from early on - which is probably why the (bad)
habit developed eversince) breaks using section breaks just seemed to be
more
'versatile' somehow compared to page breaks.

do you how a general advice when to use page break and when to use section
break? in the recent massive document that i completed there were
(probably
needless in retrospect) hundreds of section break where i suppose page
break
would suffice.

again thank you,
jes


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If this is section 6, then Word is doing just what you told it to: it's
putting no page number on the first page of sections 1-5 (pages 1-6),
then
putting a page number on the second page of section 6. You probably need
to
figure out why you have five section breaks in the first six pages.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"xppuser" wrote in message
...
hi all,

office 2003 pro sp2 and wxp pro sp2,

i have a problem that i cannot seem to rectify and would therefore
appreciate advice/help to find out what's the problem and how to solve
it.

i have a word document, i did Insert - Page Numbers - Position:
Bottom
of
page (Footer), Alignment: Right, and Show number of first page
unticked.
well
for some reasons, numbering only starts on page 7, which was correctly
numbered as page 7. when i clicked on the number itself i.e. page
number
7,
which incidentally is shaded grey, a box appeared with a title of
Footer -
Section 6. here's the strange bit - if i use Header and Footer tool
bar to
manually insert the page number, the page number would appear but on
page
7,
there will be two numbers, one, which i presumed from Insert - Page
Numbers
and one from the Header and Footer.

i found http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Numbering/PageNumbering.htm when i
googled
this problem but unfortunately when i tried to use {Page} what
happened
next
baffled me even more... page 1 would appear on page 1 except that i do
not
want page 1 number to appear on the first page. page 2 right through
to 6
correctly numbered but on page 7, there is no page 7. what there is,
was a
'{Page...}' shaded grey.

i hope my description was not too confusing! if it was, please do let
me
know which bit(s) and i shall try to describe it again. thank you for
your
advice/help.

jes

[xppuser]

hi suzanne,

thank you for your link and advice. it's useful.

jes

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Glad I could help.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"xppuser" wrote in message
...
hi suzanne,

thank you for your link and advice. it's useful.

jes