[Ray Pixley]

I have a document that has text plus a pictures that takes up a full page
(margin to margin) that I'm having problems laying out. As a simple example,
let's discuss a document that have 2-3 pages of text and one margin to margin
picture. Also, I assume that what works for a picture will also work for a
drawing canvas, so both terms are considered interchangeable in this
discussion.

Let the first page be all text. Within one of the paragraphs is a word
which I'll call a bookmark word. (If an actual bookmark is needed there and
does the trick, that's ok.) I want the picture to appear on the next page
after that bookmark word appears, even if the paragraph is split across two
pages and the bookmark word is on the second page. And remember, this is for
a print layout; I could care less about the other views as they are
extraneous and irrelevant to my needs.

The beahvior must include the ability to maintain this type of print layout
if text (or other pictures) are added before that bookmark word. The text is
expected to shifts appropriately and the picture must always be on the page
that follow the bookmark word no matter what. The text should automatically
flow around the picture without my having to intervene or even think about
it. No white space should ever appears.

For some reason, Word 2003 doesn't want to do that for me, and I don't
understand why it is so hostile. It worked fine in old versions of Word
Perfect years ago. Why can't I do that in Word, which should be a superior
product?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

This has never been possible in any version of Word. Perhaps you are
recalling a different word processor?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ray Pixley" wrote in message
...
I have a document that has text plus a pictures that takes up a full page
(margin to margin) that I'm having problems laying out. As a simple
example,
let's discuss a document that have 2-3 pages of text and one margin to
margin
picture. Also, I assume that what works for a picture will also work for
a
drawing canvas, so both terms are considered interchangeable in this
discussion.

Let the first page be all text. Within one of the paragraphs is a word
which I'll call a bookmark word. (If an actual bookmark is needed there
and
does the trick, that's ok.) I want the picture to appear on the next page
after that bookmark word appears, even if the paragraph is split across
two
pages and the bookmark word is on the second page. And remember, this is
for
a print layout; I could care less about the other views as they are
extraneous and irrelevant to my needs.

The beahvior must include the ability to maintain this type of print
layout
if text (or other pictures) are added before that bookmark word. The text
is
expected to shifts appropriately and the picture must always be on the
page
that follow the bookmark word no matter what. The text should
automatically
flow around the picture without my having to intervene or even think about
it. No white space should ever appears.

For some reason, Word 2003 doesn't want to do that for me, and I don't
understand why it is so hostile. It worked fine in old versions of Word
Perfect years ago. Why can't I do that in Word, which should be a
superior
product?

[Ray Pixley]

I can hardly believe that. Every writing style guide that I know of from the
1960s to now mandates this kind of layout. Why would Microsoft ignore such
industry practice? Your reply makes no sense.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

This has never been possible in any version of Word. Perhaps you are
recalling a different word processor?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ray Pixley" wrote in message
...
I have a document that has text plus a pictures that takes up a full page
(margin to margin) that I'm having problems laying out. As a simple
example,
let's discuss a document that have 2-3 pages of text and one margin to
margin
picture. Also, I assume that what works for a picture will also work for
a
drawing canvas, so both terms are considered interchangeable in this
discussion.

Let the first page be all text. Within one of the paragraphs is a word
which I'll call a bookmark word. (If an actual bookmark is needed there
and
does the trick, that's ok.) I want the picture to appear on the next page
after that bookmark word appears, even if the paragraph is split across
two
pages and the bookmark word is on the second page. And remember, this is
for
a print layout; I could care less about the other views as they are
extraneous and irrelevant to my needs.

The beahvior must include the ability to maintain this type of print
layout
if text (or other pictures) are added before that bookmark word. The text
is
expected to shifts appropriately and the picture must always be on the
page
that follow the bookmark word no matter what. The text should
automatically
flow around the picture without my having to intervene or even think about
it. No white space should ever appears.

For some reason, Word 2003 doesn't want to do that for me, and I don't
understand why it is so hostile. It worked fine in old versions of Word
Perfect years ago. Why can't I do that in Word, which should be a
superior
product?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Because Word is not page layout software; if you need that type of layout,
you will be much happier using page layout software.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ray Pixley" wrote in message
...
I can hardly believe that. Every writing style guide that I know of from
the
1960s to now mandates this kind of layout. Why would Microsoft ignore
such
industry practice? Your reply makes no sense.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

This has never been possible in any version of Word. Perhaps you are
recalling a different word processor?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ray Pixley" wrote in message
...
I have a document that has text plus a pictures that takes up a full
page
(margin to margin) that I'm having problems laying out. As a simple
example,
let's discuss a document that have 2-3 pages of text and one margin to
margin
picture. Also, I assume that what works for a picture will also work
for
a
drawing canvas, so both terms are considered interchangeable in this
discussion.

Let the first page be all text. Within one of the paragraphs is a
word
which I'll call a bookmark word. (If an actual bookmark is needed
there
and
does the trick, that's ok.) I want the picture to appear on the next
page
after that bookmark word appears, even if the paragraph is split
across
two
pages and the bookmark word is on the second page. And remember, this
is
for
a print layout; I could care less about the other views as they are
extraneous and irrelevant to my needs.

The beahvior must include the ability to maintain this type of print
layout
if text (or other pictures) are added before that bookmark word. The
text
is
expected to shifts appropriately and the picture must always be on the
page
that follow the bookmark word no matter what. The text should
automatically
flow around the picture without my having to intervene or even think
about
it. No white space should ever appears.

For some reason, Word 2003 doesn't want to do that for me, and I don't
understand why it is so hostile. It worked fine in old versions of
Word
Perfect years ago. Why can't I do that in Word, which should be a
superior
product?

[Ray Pixley]

While I don't want to be sarcastic,

1) Since when?
2) Why was it sold to my employer as such?
3) Why is it advertised as such?

Unless that page layout software you mention is free of charge, getting it
is not an option.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Because Word is not page layout software; if you need that type of layout,
you will be much happier using page layout software.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ray Pixley" wrote in message
...
I can hardly believe that. Every writing style guide that I know of from
the
1960s to now mandates this kind of layout. Why would Microsoft ignore
such
industry practice? Your reply makes no sense.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

This has never been possible in any version of Word. Perhaps you are
recalling a different word processor?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ray Pixley" wrote in message
...
I have a document that has text plus a pictures that takes up a full
page
(margin to margin) that I'm having problems laying out. As a simple
example,
let's discuss a document that have 2-3 pages of text and one margin to
margin
picture. Also, I assume that what works for a picture will also work
for
a
drawing canvas, so both terms are considered interchangeable in this
discussion.

Let the first page be all text. Within one of the paragraphs is a
word
which I'll call a bookmark word. (If an actual bookmark is needed
there
and
does the trick, that's ok.) I want the picture to appear on the next
page
after that bookmark word appears, even if the paragraph is split
across
two
pages and the bookmark word is on the second page. And remember, this
is
for
a print layout; I could care less about the other views as they are
extraneous and irrelevant to my needs.

The beahvior must include the ability to maintain this type of print
layout
if text (or other pictures) are added before that bookmark word. The
text
is
expected to shifts appropriately and the picture must always be on the
page
that follow the bookmark word no matter what. The text should
automatically
flow around the picture without my having to intervene or even think
about
it. No white space should ever appears.

For some reason, Word 2003 doesn't want to do that for me, and I don't
understand why it is so hostile. It worked fine in old versions of
Word
Perfect years ago. Why can't I do that in Word, which should be a
superior
product?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Word is a word processor. It always has been. Publisher is marketed as page
layout software, as are/were PageMaker, InDesign, QuarkXpress, etc.

That said, there are ways to do what you want, but not the way you describe.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ray Pixley" wrote in message
...
While I don't want to be sarcastic,

1) Since when?
2) Why was it sold to my employer as such?
3) Why is it advertised as such?

Unless that page layout software you mention is free of charge, getting it
is not an option.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Because Word is not page layout software; if you need that type of
layout,
you will be much happier using page layout software.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ray Pixley" wrote in message
...
I can hardly believe that. Every writing style guide that I know of
from
the
1960s to now mandates this kind of layout. Why would Microsoft ignore
such
industry practice? Your reply makes no sense.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

This has never been possible in any version of Word. Perhaps you are
recalling a different word processor?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ray Pixley" wrote in message
...
I have a document that has text plus a pictures that takes up a
full
page
(margin to margin) that I'm having problems laying out. As a
simple
example,
let's discuss a document that have 2-3 pages of text and one
margin to
margin
picture. Also, I assume that what works for a picture will also
work
for
a
drawing canvas, so both terms are considered interchangeable in
this
discussion.

Let the first page be all text. Within one of the paragraphs is a
word
which I'll call a bookmark word. (If an actual bookmark is needed
there
and
does the trick, that's ok.) I want the picture to appear on the
next
page
after that bookmark word appears, even if the paragraph is split
across
two
pages and the bookmark word is on the second page. And remember,
this
is
for
a print layout; I could care less about the other views as they
are
extraneous and irrelevant to my needs.

The beahvior must include the ability to maintain this type of
print
layout
if text (or other pictures) are added before that bookmark word.
The
text
is
expected to shifts appropriately and the picture must always be on
the
page
that follow the bookmark word no matter what. The text should
automatically
flow around the picture without my having to intervene or even
think
about
it. No white space should ever appears.

For some reason, Word 2003 doesn't want to do that for me, and I
don't
understand why it is so hostile. It worked fine in old versions
of
Word
Perfect years ago. Why can't I do that in Word, which should be a
superior
product?