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Captions and thier captors
I have been working with pictures that I need captions for so I envoked
the captions command. To my surprise, the caption is not linked to the picture! So if I want to wrap text around the picture, the caption wraps also. I really dispise this, I'm sure the geniuses at MS have a way to prevent this. Can anyone help? |
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Captions and thier captors
Select both the image and the frame containing the caption and group them.
Then apply the wrap to the grouped object. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org David W wrote: I have been working with pictures that I need captions for so I envoked the captions command. To my surprise, the caption is not linked to the picture! So if I want to wrap text around the picture, the caption wraps also. I really dispise this, I'm sure the geniuses at MS have a way to prevent this. Can anyone help? |
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Part of the problem is the caption is just text, there is no frame.
When I select the image and the text, the group option (under the draw button) is not available. Is there a setting or something that may not be set correctly that puts the caption as just text? This is very frustrating, I'm getting ready to switch this document to word perfect where I know the caption is part of the picture. Graham Mayor wrote: Select both the image and the frame containing the caption and group them. Then apply the wrap to the grouped object. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org David W wrote: I have been working with pictures that I need captions for so I envoked the captions command. To my surprise, the caption is not linked to the picture! So if I want to wrap text around the picture, the caption wraps also. I really dispise this, I'm sure the geniuses at MS have a way to prevent this. Can anyone help? |
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If the caption is plain text, then the picture probably is, too (formatted
as In Line With Text, not wrapped), in which case you format the paragraph it's in as "Keep with next." Ideally, you define a specific KWN style for graphics. If you need to wrap text around both picture and caption, format the picture as In Line With Text, then select both and use Insert Frame from the Forms toolbar to insert both in a frame together. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "David W" wrote in message ups.com... Part of the problem is the caption is just text, there is no frame. When I select the image and the text, the group option (under the draw button) is not available. Is there a setting or something that may not be set correctly that puts the caption as just text? This is very frustrating, I'm getting ready to switch this document to word perfect where I know the caption is part of the picture. Graham Mayor wrote: Select both the image and the frame containing the caption and group them. Then apply the wrap to the grouped object. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org David W wrote: I have been working with pictures that I need captions for so I envoked the captions command. To my surprise, the caption is not linked to the picture! So if I want to wrap text around the picture, the caption wraps also. I really dispise this, I'm sure the geniuses at MS have a way to prevent this. Can anyone help? |
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Thank's Suzanne, that does work, much more of a problem than in Word
Perfect but I get the results I want. I can't understand why Word doesn't do like WP and keep the caption with the graphic. If I just wanted text under a picture, I could just type it there! Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: If the caption is plain text, then the picture probably is, too (formatted as In Line With Text, not wrapped), in which case you format the paragraph it's in as "Keep with next." Ideally, you define a specific KWN style for graphics. If you need to wrap text around both picture and caption, format the picture as In Line With Text, then select both and use Insert Frame from the Forms toolbar to insert both in a frame together. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "David W" wrote in message ups.com... Part of the problem is the caption is just text, there is no frame. When I select the image and the text, the group option (under the draw button) is not available. Is there a setting or something that may not be set correctly that puts the caption as just text? This is very frustrating, I'm getting ready to switch this document to word perfect where I know the caption is part of the picture. Graham Mayor wrote: Select both the image and the frame containing the caption and group them. Then apply the wrap to the grouped object. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org David W wrote: I have been working with pictures that I need captions for so I envoked the captions command. To my surprise, the caption is not linked to the picture! So if I want to wrap text around the picture, the caption wraps also. I really dispise this, I'm sure the geniuses at MS have a way to prevent this. Can anyone help? |
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You said you wanted the text around the graphic wrapped? For this to happen
the graphic must be inserted in some option other than in-line (where it behaves like a large font character) - or its layout changed to a wrap mode. If the graphic is inserted in one of its wrap modes, adding a caption adds a frame, and this can be grouped with the image. If you are going to keep worrying about how Word Perfect does things then you are never going to be comfortable working in Word. These are entirely different applications that format documents completely differently. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org David W wrote: Thank's Suzanne, that does work, much more of a problem than in Word Perfect but I get the results I want. I can't understand why Word doesn't do like WP and keep the caption with the graphic. If I just wanted text under a picture, I could just type it there! Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: If the caption is plain text, then the picture probably is, too (formatted as In Line With Text, not wrapped), in which case you format the paragraph it's in as "Keep with next." Ideally, you define a specific KWN style for graphics. If you need to wrap text around both picture and caption, format the picture as In Line With Text, then select both and use Insert Frame from the Forms toolbar to insert both in a frame together. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "David W" wrote in message ups.com... Part of the problem is the caption is just text, there is no frame. When I select the image and the text, the group option (under the draw button) is not available. Is there a setting or something that may not be set correctly that puts the caption as just text? This is very frustrating, I'm getting ready to switch this document to word perfect where I know the caption is part of the picture. Graham Mayor wrote: Select both the image and the frame containing the caption and group them. Then apply the wrap to the grouped object. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org David W wrote: I have been working with pictures that I need captions for so I envoked the captions command. To my surprise, the caption is not linked to the picture! So if I want to wrap text around the picture, the caption wraps also. I really dispise this, I'm sure the geniuses at MS have a way to prevent this. Can anyone help? |
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If the graphic is inserted in one of its wrap modes, adding a caption adds
a frame, and this can be grouped with the image. Unfortunately not true at all. If you select a wrapped graphic and use Insert | Reference | Caption, you get a caption in a text box, not a frame. Unfortunately, Word cannot see text in a text box when you want to generate a cross-reference or a Table of Figures, so you need to either convert the text box to a frame (which Word can see into) or, as previously suggested, put both graphic and caption into the same frame. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... You said you wanted the text around the graphic wrapped? For this to happen the graphic must be inserted in some option other than in-line (where it behaves like a large font character) - or its layout changed to a wrap mode. If the graphic is inserted in one of its wrap modes, adding a caption adds a frame, and this can be grouped with the image. If you are going to keep worrying about how Word Perfect does things then you are never going to be comfortable working in Word. These are entirely different applications that format documents completely differently. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org David W wrote: Thank's Suzanne, that does work, much more of a problem than in Word Perfect but I get the results I want. I can't understand why Word doesn't do like WP and keep the caption with the graphic. If I just wanted text under a picture, I could just type it there! Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: If the caption is plain text, then the picture probably is, too (formatted as In Line With Text, not wrapped), in which case you format the paragraph it's in as "Keep with next." Ideally, you define a specific KWN style for graphics. If you need to wrap text around both picture and caption, format the picture as In Line With Text, then select both and use Insert Frame from the Forms toolbar to insert both in a frame together. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "David W" wrote in message ups.com... Part of the problem is the caption is just text, there is no frame. When I select the image and the text, the group option (under the draw button) is not available. Is there a setting or something that may not be set correctly that puts the caption as just text? This is very frustrating, I'm getting ready to switch this document to word perfect where I know the caption is part of the picture. Graham Mayor wrote: Select both the image and the frame containing the caption and group them. Then apply the wrap to the grouped object. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org David W wrote: I have been working with pictures that I need captions for so I envoked the captions command. To my surprise, the caption is not linked to the picture! So if I want to wrap text around the picture, the caption wraps also. I really dispise this, I'm sure the geniuses at MS have a way to prevent this. Can anyone help? |
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