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Multiple independant Digital Signatures [ Office 2007]
Do you know if MS Word [or Excel] 2007 support having multiple digital
signatures [independent of each other] on a single document? That is - can I put 3 signature lines on a document, sign it, and route it to the other two people so that they can sign it also? Every time I try this the document gets saved when the 2nd person signs the document which triggers invalidating any prior signatures. I've tried this in Sharepoint Portal Server 2003, Outlook email attachments, and finally by putting the document on a file share and they all result in the same thing happening - signing the document invalidates any previous signatures. James C. |
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Multiple independant Digital Signatures [ Office 2007]
John,
I'm not going to shoot the messenger, but can you please pass along that this is the most assanine idea that Microsoft has with regards to Outlook? I am an admin assistant and I use the signature feature a great deal for draft form emails. I will use one paragraph as a signature and then another paragraph as a different signature. Each email needs to be a little different, but the bulk of the text is the same. However, using the work around of drafting one signature for each "form email" is just assanine. It's absolutely stupid. I loved using the signature feature for form emails. It worked great and saved me a great deal of time. This new feature is only going to add time to my work and make it more frustrating and I'll tell people not to upgrade. "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macinto" wrote: No. As you have discovered, writing the second signature involves changing the file, invalidating the first signature. A digital signature relies on a checksum of the file: if you change the file by as much as a single bit, the signature will be invalid. On 31/1/07 9:08 AM, in article , "James Conley" James wrote: Do you know if MS Word [or Excel] 2007 support having multiple digital signatures [independent of each other] on a single document? That is - can I put 3 signature lines on a document, sign it, and route it to the other two people so that they can sign it also? Every time I try this the document gets saved when the 2nd person signs the document which triggers invalidating any prior signatures. I've tried this in Sharepoint Portal Server 2003, Outlook email attachments, and finally by putting the document on a file share and they all result in the same thing happening - signing the document invalidates any previous signatures. James C. -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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Multiple independant Digital Signatures [ Office 2007]
Has this been addressed since 2008? We have need to manage a Word doc that
requires mulitple signatures (at times more than 8), whereby each is a review/approval for the document and any additional data placed into the document. Ideally we would lock down sections of the file after each signature, i.e. setup a block of information, sign, lock that section down from editing, but allow edits to the next section. This is a critical need in an effort to automate some workflows. Thanks, Jim "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macinto" wrote: No. As you have discovered, writing the second signature involves changing the file, invalidating the first signature. A digital signature relies on a checksum of the file: if you change the file by as much as a single bit, the signature will be invalid. On 31/1/07 9:08 AM, in article , "James Conley" James wrote: Do you know if MS Word [or Excel] 2007 support having multiple digital signatures [independent of each other] on a single document? That is - can I put 3 signature lines on a document, sign it, and route it to the other two people so that they can sign it also? Every time I try this the document gets saved when the 2nd person signs the document which triggers invalidating any prior signatures. I've tried this in Sharepoint Portal Server 2003, Outlook email attachments, and finally by putting the document on a file share and they all result in the same thing happening - signing the document invalidates any previous signatures. James C. -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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Multiple independant Digital Signatures [ Office 2007]
Nothing has changed. Sorry.
-- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:55:01 -0800, Jim F Jim wrote: Has this been addressed since 2008? We have need to manage a Word doc that requires mulitple signatures (at times more than 8), whereby each is a review/approval for the document and any additional data placed into the document. Ideally we would lock down sections of the file after each signature, i.e. setup a block of information, sign, lock that section down from editing, but allow edits to the next section. This is a critical need in an effort to automate some workflows. Thanks, Jim "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macinto" wrote: No. As you have discovered, writing the second signature involves changing the file, invalidating the first signature. A digital signature relies on a checksum of the file: if you change the file by as much as a single bit, the signature will be invalid. On 31/1/07 9:08 AM, in article , "James Conley" James wrote: Do you know if MS Word [or Excel] 2007 support having multiple digital signatures [independent of each other] on a single document? That is - can I put 3 signature lines on a document, sign it, and route it to the other two people so that they can sign it also? Every time I try this the document gets saved when the 2nd person signs the document which triggers invalidating any prior signatures. I've tried this in Sharepoint Portal Server 2003, Outlook email attachments, and finally by putting the document on a file share and they all result in the same thing happening - signing the document invalidates any previous signatures. James C. -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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Multiple independant Digital Signatures [ Office 2007]
Thanks Jay. What about utilizing XML signature capabilities? Can we utlize
any XML code inside Word 2007 and then use the XML digital signature features? Jim "Jay Freedman" wrote: Nothing has changed. Sorry. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:55:01 -0800, Jim F Jim wrote: Has this been addressed since 2008? We have need to manage a Word doc that requires mulitple signatures (at times more than 8), whereby each is a review/approval for the document and any additional data placed into the document. Ideally we would lock down sections of the file after each signature, i.e. setup a block of information, sign, lock that section down from editing, but allow edits to the next section. This is a critical need in an effort to automate some workflows. Thanks, Jim "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macinto" wrote: No. As you have discovered, writing the second signature involves changing the file, invalidating the first signature. A digital signature relies on a checksum of the file: if you change the file by as much as a single bit, the signature will be invalid. On 31/1/07 9:08 AM, in article , "James Conley" James wrote: Do you know if MS Word [or Excel] 2007 support having multiple digital signatures [independent of each other] on a single document? That is - can I put 3 signature lines on a document, sign it, and route it to the other two people so that they can sign it also? Every time I try this the document gets saved when the 2nd person signs the document which triggers invalidating any prior signatures. I've tried this in Sharepoint Portal Server 2003, Outlook email attachments, and finally by putting the document on a file share and they all result in the same thing happening - signing the document invalidates any previous signatures. James C. -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 . |
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Multiple independant Digital Signatures [ Office 2007]
I don't know anything about that. You might find something useful at
http://www.openxmldeveloper.org. Jim F wrote: Thanks Jay. What about utilizing XML signature capabilities? Can we utlize any XML code inside Word 2007 and then use the XML digital signature features? Jim "Jay Freedman" wrote: Nothing has changed. Sorry. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:55:01 -0800, Jim F Jim wrote: Has this been addressed since 2008? We have need to manage a Word doc that requires mulitple signatures (at times more than 8), whereby each is a review/approval for the document and any additional data placed into the document. Ideally we would lock down sections of the file after each signature, i.e. setup a block of information, sign, lock that section down from editing, but allow edits to the next section. This is a critical need in an effort to automate some workflows. Thanks, Jim "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macinto" wrote: No. As you have discovered, writing the second signature involves changing the file, invalidating the first signature. A digital signature relies on a checksum of the file: if you change the file by as much as a single bit, the signature will be invalid. On 31/1/07 9:08 AM, in article , "James Conley" James wrote: Do you know if MS Word [or Excel] 2007 support having multiple digital signatures [independent of each other] on a single document? That is - can I put 3 signature lines on a document, sign it, and route it to the other two people so that they can sign it also? Every time I try this the document gets saved when the 2nd person signs the document which triggers invalidating any prior signatures. I've tried this in Sharepoint Portal Server 2003, Outlook email attachments, and finally by putting the document on a file share and they all result in the same thing happening - signing the document invalidates any previous signatures. James C. -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 . |
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Multiple independant Digital Signatures [ Office 2007]
I don't know anything about that. You might find something useful at
http://www.openxmldeveloper.org. Jim F wrote: Thanks Jay. What about utilizing XML signature capabilities? Can we utlize any XML code inside Word 2007 and then use the XML digital signature features? Jim "Jay Freedman" wrote: Nothing has changed. Sorry. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:55:01 -0800, Jim F Jim wrote: Has this been addressed since 2008? We have need to manage a Word doc that requires mulitple signatures (at times more than 8), whereby each is a review/approval for the document and any additional data placed into the document. Ideally we would lock down sections of the file after each signature, i.e. setup a block of information, sign, lock that section down from editing, but allow edits to the next section. This is a critical need in an effort to automate some workflows. Thanks, Jim "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macinto" wrote: No. As you have discovered, writing the second signature involves changing the file, invalidating the first signature. A digital signature relies on a checksum of the file: if you change the file by as much as a single bit, the signature will be invalid. On 31/1/07 9:08 AM, in article , "James Conley" James wrote: Do you know if MS Word [or Excel] 2007 support having multiple digital signatures [independent of each other] on a single document? That is - can I put 3 signature lines on a document, sign it, and route it to the other two people so that they can sign it also? Every time I try this the document gets saved when the 2nd person signs the document which triggers invalidating any prior signatures. I've tried this in Sharepoint Portal Server 2003, Outlook email attachments, and finally by putting the document on a file share and they all result in the same thing happening - signing the document invalidates any previous signatures. James C. -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 . |
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Multiple independant Digital Signatures [ Office 2007]
Thanks Jay. What about utilizing XML signature capabilities? Can we utlize
any XML code inside Word 2007 and then use the XML digital signature features? Jim "Jay Freedman" wrote: Nothing has changed. Sorry. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:55:01 -0800, Jim F Jim wrote: Has this been addressed since 2008? We have need to manage a Word doc that requires mulitple signatures (at times more than 8), whereby each is a review/approval for the document and any additional data placed into the document. Ideally we would lock down sections of the file after each signature, i.e. setup a block of information, sign, lock that section down from editing, but allow edits to the next section. This is a critical need in an effort to automate some workflows. Thanks, Jim "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macinto" wrote: No. As you have discovered, writing the second signature involves changing the file, invalidating the first signature. A digital signature relies on a checksum of the file: if you change the file by as much as a single bit, the signature will be invalid. On 31/1/07 9:08 AM, in article , "James Conley" James wrote: Do you know if MS Word [or Excel] 2007 support having multiple digital signatures [independent of each other] on a single document? That is - can I put 3 signature lines on a document, sign it, and route it to the other two people so that they can sign it also? Every time I try this the document gets saved when the 2nd person signs the document which triggers invalidating any prior signatures. I've tried this in Sharepoint Portal Server 2003, Outlook email attachments, and finally by putting the document on a file share and they all result in the same thing happening - signing the document invalidates any previous signatures. James C. -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 . |
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Multiple independant Digital Signatures [ Office 2007]
Nothing has changed. Sorry.
-- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:55:01 -0800, Jim F Jim wrote: Has this been addressed since 2008? We have need to manage a Word doc that requires mulitple signatures (at times more than 8), whereby each is a review/approval for the document and any additional data placed into the document. Ideally we would lock down sections of the file after each signature, i.e. setup a block of information, sign, lock that section down from editing, but allow edits to the next section. This is a critical need in an effort to automate some workflows. Thanks, Jim "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macinto" wrote: No. As you have discovered, writing the second signature involves changing the file, invalidating the first signature. A digital signature relies on a checksum of the file: if you change the file by as much as a single bit, the signature will be invalid. On 31/1/07 9:08 AM, in article , "James Conley" James wrote: Do you know if MS Word [or Excel] 2007 support having multiple digital signatures [independent of each other] on a single document? That is - can I put 3 signature lines on a document, sign it, and route it to the other two people so that they can sign it also? Every time I try this the document gets saved when the 2nd person signs the document which triggers invalidating any prior signatures. I've tried this in Sharepoint Portal Server 2003, Outlook email attachments, and finally by putting the document on a file share and they all result in the same thing happening - signing the document invalidates any previous signatures. James C. -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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Multiple independant Digital Signatures [ Office 2007]
Has this been addressed since 2008? We have need to manage a Word doc that
requires mulitple signatures (at times more than 8), whereby each is a review/approval for the document and any additional data placed into the document. Ideally we would lock down sections of the file after each signature, i.e. setup a block of information, sign, lock that section down from editing, but allow edits to the next section. This is a critical need in an effort to automate some workflows. Thanks, Jim "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macinto" wrote: No. As you have discovered, writing the second signature involves changing the file, invalidating the first signature. A digital signature relies on a checksum of the file: if you change the file by as much as a single bit, the signature will be invalid. On 31/1/07 9:08 AM, in article , "James Conley" James wrote: Do you know if MS Word [or Excel] 2007 support having multiple digital signatures [independent of each other] on a single document? That is - can I put 3 signature lines on a document, sign it, and route it to the other two people so that they can sign it also? Every time I try this the document gets saved when the 2nd person signs the document which triggers invalidating any prior signatures. I've tried this in Sharepoint Portal Server 2003, Outlook email attachments, and finally by putting the document on a file share and they all result in the same thing happening - signing the document invalidates any previous signatures. James C. -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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