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Character style without specifying a font (e.g. for bold or underl
Hi all,
Is there a way in Word to make a character style that would only apply the selected formatting (e.g., bold, underline, smallcaps) to the selected text? Even when I specify that a character style is to be based on (underlying properties), Word selects a font for the character style. I'd expect to see a "None" entry in the font list when setting up such a style (like in FrameMaker). -g |
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Character style without specifying a font (e.g. for bold or underl
Use the Default Paragraph Font for the font setting.
General info: http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/DefParaFont.htm themint100 wrote: Hi all, Is there a way in Word to make a character style that would only apply the selected formatting (e.g., bold, underline, smallcaps) to the selected text? Even when I specify that a character style is to be based on (underlying properties), Word selects a font for the character style. I'd expect to see a "None" entry in the font list when setting up such a style (like in FrameMaker). -g |
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Thanks, Daiya.
Unfortunately, that's not working. I have a character style called 'bold'. I am trying the following: 1) Right click and choose Modify in the Style list on 'bold'. 2) In the Modify Style dialog: - name="bold" - Style type="Character" but is grayed out...I'm assuming this is because 'bold' is a reserved name...that's fine, I just want to define what 'bold' means - Style based on is set to "Default Paragraph Font" In the Formatting section, Times New Roman 10pt is selected, along with the Bold ("B") icon. Grrr... Is the problem trying to use one of Word's reserved names? Seems I should be able to define what 'bold' means... -g "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: Use the Default Paragraph Font for the font setting. General info: http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/DefParaFont.htm themint100 wrote: Hi all, Is there a way in Word to make a character style that would only apply the selected formatting (e.g., bold, underline, smallcaps) to the selected text? Even when I specify that a character style is to be based on (underlying properties), Word selects a font for the character style. I'd expect to see a "None" entry in the font list when setting up such a style (like in FrameMaker). -g |
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Character style without specifying a font (e.g. for bold or un
Start with the character style listed as "Default Paragraph Font," but don't
try to modify it. Instead, choose New, then type Bold (or whatever) as your style name. A character style can contain any formatting that can be defined in the Font dialog, but it does not have to specify a font or point size if it is based on the DPF. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "themint100" wrote in message ... Thanks, Daiya. Unfortunately, that's not working. I have a character style called 'bold'. I am trying the following: 1) Right click and choose Modify in the Style list on 'bold'. 2) In the Modify Style dialog: - name="bold" - Style type="Character" but is grayed out...I'm assuming this is because 'bold' is a reserved name...that's fine, I just want to define what 'bold' means - Style based on is set to "Default Paragraph Font" In the Formatting section, Times New Roman 10pt is selected, along with the Bold ("B") icon. Grrr... Is the problem trying to use one of Word's reserved names? Seems I should be able to define what 'bold' means... -g "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: Use the Default Paragraph Font for the font setting. General info: http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/DefParaFont.htm themint100 wrote: Hi all, Is there a way in Word to make a character style that would only apply the selected formatting (e.g., bold, underline, smallcaps) to the selected text? Even when I specify that a character style is to be based on (underlying properties), Word selects a font for the character style. I'd expect to see a "None" entry in the font list when setting up such a style (like in FrameMaker). -g |
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Character style without specifying a font (e.g. for bold or un
Hmmm...I can't modify the style 'bold' which is what I really wanted to
do...apparently that one's reserved. I was able to make another (unfortunately it has a name different than every other template I've ever built in other systems). If 'bold' is indeed a reserved character style, why is there a font specified for something so generic? Can anyone else verify that 'bold' has Times New Roman assigned and not changeable? If it's only me, does that indicate some kind of corruption to the template? -g "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Start with the character style listed as "Default Paragraph Font," but don't try to modify it. Instead, choose New, then type Bold (or whatever) as your style name. A character style can contain any formatting that can be defined in the Font dialog, but it does not have to specify a font or point size if it is based on the DPF. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "themint100" wrote in message ... Thanks, Daiya. Unfortunately, that's not working. I have a character style called 'bold'. I am trying the following: 1) Right click and choose Modify in the Style list on 'bold'. 2) In the Modify Style dialog: - name="bold" - Style type="Character" but is grayed out...I'm assuming this is because 'bold' is a reserved name...that's fine, I just want to define what 'bold' means - Style based on is set to "Default Paragraph Font" In the Formatting section, Times New Roman 10pt is selected, along with the Bold ("B") icon. Grrr... Is the problem trying to use one of Word's reserved names? Seems I should be able to define what 'bold' means... -g "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: Use the Default Paragraph Font for the font setting. General info: http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/DefParaFont.htm themint100 wrote: Hi all, Is there a way in Word to make a character style that would only apply the selected formatting (e.g., bold, underline, smallcaps) to the selected text? Even when I specify that a character style is to be based on (underlying properties), Word selects a font for the character style. I'd expect to see a "None" entry in the font list when setting up such a style (like in FrameMaker). -g |
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Character style without specifying a font (e.g. for bold or un
I don't have a built-in character style named Bold in Word 2003. Are you
having this issue in Word 2007? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "themint100" wrote in message ... Hmmm...I can't modify the style 'bold' which is what I really wanted to do...apparently that one's reserved. I was able to make another (unfortunately it has a name different than every other template I've ever built in other systems). If 'bold' is indeed a reserved character style, why is there a font specified for something so generic? Can anyone else verify that 'bold' has Times New Roman assigned and not changeable? If it's only me, does that indicate some kind of corruption to the template? -g "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Start with the character style listed as "Default Paragraph Font," but don't try to modify it. Instead, choose New, then type Bold (or whatever) as your style name. A character style can contain any formatting that can be defined in the Font dialog, but it does not have to specify a font or point size if it is based on the DPF. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "themint100" wrote in message ... Thanks, Daiya. Unfortunately, that's not working. I have a character style called 'bold'. I am trying the following: 1) Right click and choose Modify in the Style list on 'bold'. 2) In the Modify Style dialog: - name="bold" - Style type="Character" but is grayed out...I'm assuming this is because 'bold' is a reserved name...that's fine, I just want to define what 'bold' means - Style based on is set to "Default Paragraph Font" In the Formatting section, Times New Roman 10pt is selected, along with the Bold ("B") icon. Grrr... Is the problem trying to use one of Word's reserved names? Seems I should be able to define what 'bold' means... -g "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: Use the Default Paragraph Font for the font setting. General info: http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/DefParaFont.htm themint100 wrote: Hi all, Is there a way in Word to make a character style that would only apply the selected formatting (e.g., bold, underline, smallcaps) to the selected text? Even when I specify that a character style is to be based on (underlying properties), Word selects a font for the character style. I'd expect to see a "None" entry in the font list when setting up such a style (like in FrameMaker). -g |
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Character style without specifying a font (e.g. for bold or un
I am using MS Word 2002, SP3
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I don't have a built-in character style named Bold in Word 2003. Are you having this issue in Word 2007? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "themint100" wrote in message ... Hmmm...I can't modify the style 'bold' which is what I really wanted to do...apparently that one's reserved. I was able to make another (unfortunately it has a name different than every other template I've ever built in other systems). If 'bold' is indeed a reserved character style, why is there a font specified for something so generic? Can anyone else verify that 'bold' has Times New Roman assigned and not changeable? If it's only me, does that indicate some kind of corruption to the template? -g |
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Character style without specifying a font (e.g. for bold or un
Then there is no built-in character style named Bold.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "themint100" wrote in message ... I am using MS Word 2002, SP3 "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I don't have a built-in character style named Bold in Word 2003. Are you having this issue in Word 2007? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "themint100" wrote in message ... Hmmm...I can't modify the style 'bold' which is what I really wanted to do...apparently that one's reserved. I was able to make another (unfortunately it has a name different than every other template I've ever built in other systems). If 'bold' is indeed a reserved character style, why is there a font specified for something so generic? Can anyone else verify that 'bold' has Times New Roman assigned and not changeable? If it's only me, does that indicate some kind of corruption to the template? -g |
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Character style without specifying a font (e.g. for bold or un
You're right, and I've sorted out the problem. It's bad UI.
The first problem is that there's no way in the Styles and Formatting pane to tell if a style is a 'reserved' style. I finally figured out that the only way to tell is by right-clicking on the style and seeing if I can delete it. Not very efficient if I have a complex template. There doesn't seem to be a way to see a canonical list of the reserved styles anywhere (or at least none that I can see). The reason I thought my character style 'bold' was reserved was that when opening the Modify Style dialog for the style, the "Style Type" was grayed out. However, the specific problem here is that if you define a character style with a font inadvertently selected, there is no way to remove the font from the character style (or at least none that I can see). bThe recommended fix:/b when modifying a character style, there should be an entry at the top of the font list called (None). This is *different* from the (underlying properties) specification in the 'Style Based On' pulldown...that specifies whether a dependency between styles should exist. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Then there is no built-in character style named Bold. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "themint100" wrote in message ... I am using MS Word 2002, SP3 "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I don't have a built-in character style named Bold in Word 2003. Are you having this issue in Word 2007? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "themint100" wrote in message ... Hmmm...I can't modify the style 'bold' which is what I really wanted to do...apparently that one's reserved. I was able to make another (unfortunately it has a name different than every other template I've ever built in other systems). If 'bold' is indeed a reserved character style, why is there a font specified for something so generic? Can anyone else verify that 'bold' has Times New Roman assigned and not changeable? If it's only me, does that indicate some kind of corruption to the template? -g |
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Character style without specifying a font (e.g. for bold or un
I'd vote for that, but it's all the more reason for basing character styles
on Default Paragraph Font. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "themint100" wrote in message ... You're right, and I've sorted out the problem. It's bad UI. The first problem is that there's no way in the Styles and Formatting pane to tell if a style is a 'reserved' style. I finally figured out that the only way to tell is by right-clicking on the style and seeing if I can delete it. Not very efficient if I have a complex template. There doesn't seem to be a way to see a canonical list of the reserved styles anywhere (or at least none that I can see). The reason I thought my character style 'bold' was reserved was that when opening the Modify Style dialog for the style, the "Style Type" was grayed out. However, the specific problem here is that if you define a character style with a font inadvertently selected, there is no way to remove the font from the character style (or at least none that I can see). bThe recommended fix:/b when modifying a character style, there should be an entry at the top of the font list called (None). This is *different* from the (underlying properties) specification in the 'Style Based On' pulldown...that specifies whether a dependency between styles should exist. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Then there is no built-in character style named Bold. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "themint100" wrote in message ... I am using MS Word 2002, SP3 "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I don't have a built-in character style named Bold in Word 2003. Are you having this issue in Word 2007? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "themint100" wrote in message ... Hmmm...I can't modify the style 'bold' which is what I really wanted to do...apparently that one's reserved. I was able to make another (unfortunately it has a name different than every other template I've ever built in other systems). If 'bold' is indeed a reserved character style, why is there a font specified for something so generic? Can anyone else verify that 'bold' has Times New Roman assigned and not changeable? If it's only me, does that indicate some kind of corruption to the template? -g |
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