[gord phlan]

i have msword as part of msoffice, version 2002.
i rcvd a msword doc and apostrophys show as = signs, and there are other
oddities that repeat.
is this possibly due to generation on a more recent version that is not
bacward compatible?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

This particular character substitution generally is a result of opening a
document that at some point originated in WordPerfect and used the WP
Typographic Symbols font for quotes, apostrophes, dashes, etc. As long as
the font is installed, you get what look like ordinary symbols (though they
come from the WP font and not the default paragraph font), but if the font
is not available, you get the equivalent in the DPF. You can approach the
problem from either of two directions: you can install the required font
(temporary Band-Aid), or you can convert the symbols to their Unicode
equivalent in the DPF.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"gord phlan" gord wrote in message
...
i have msword as part of msoffice, version 2002.
i rcvd a msword doc and apostrophys show as = signs, and there are other
oddities that repeat.
is this possibly due to generation on a more recent version that is not
bacward compatible?

[gord phlan[_2_]]

thank you.
sounds reasonable.
the messageSEEMED to indicate it was a msword .doc not wp.
would these corrupted characters appear on the other recipients? i suspect
it would vary depending on the program and the version on the recipient
machine? and the default para settings?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

This particular character substitution generally is a result of opening a
document that at some point originated in WordPerfect and used the WP
Typographic Symbols font for quotes, apostrophes, dashes, etc. As long as
the font is installed, you get what look like ordinary symbols (though they
come from the WP font and not the default paragraph font), but if the font
is not available, you get the equivalent in the DPF. You can approach the
problem from either of two directions: you can install the required font
(temporary Band-Aid), or you can convert the symbols to their Unicode
equivalent in the DPF.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"gord phlan" gord wrote in message
...
i have msword as part of msoffice, version 2002.
i rcvd a msword doc and apostrophys show as = signs, and there are other
oddities that repeat.
is this possibly due to generation on a more recent version that is not
bacward compatible?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

The document could well have been converted and saved as a Word file at some
point in the past. As long as the user who was working on it had the WP
Typographic Symbols font installed, he/she would not be aware that the
symbols were not the standard issue. Only when it's opened on a machine
without the font does the problem arise (or become noticeable). This has
nothing to do with the application version or paragraph settings or selected
font.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"gord phlan" wrote in message
...
thank you.
sounds reasonable.
the messageSEEMED to indicate it was a msword .doc not wp.
would these corrupted characters appear on the other recipients? i suspect
it would vary depending on the program and the version on the recipient
machine? and the default para settings?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

This particular character substitution generally is a result of opening
a
document that at some point originated in WordPerfect and used the WP
Typographic Symbols font for quotes, apostrophes, dashes, etc. As long
as
the font is installed, you get what look like ordinary symbols (though
they
come from the WP font and not the default paragraph font), but if the
font
is not available, you get the equivalent in the DPF. You can approach
the
problem from either of two directions: you can install the required font
(temporary Band-Aid), or you can convert the symbols to their Unicode
equivalent in the DPF.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"gord phlan" gord wrote in message
...
i have msword as part of msoffice, version 2002.
i rcvd a msword doc and apostrophys show as = signs, and there are
other
oddities that repeat.
is this possibly due to generation on a more recent version that is
not
bacward compatible?

[gord phlan[_2_]]

thank you very much.

i am passing these clarifications on to the person/office thatdid the
keyboarding in the hope that she can re-edit the document to make it readable
by all who received it.
i tried to correct thing with the cnrl+h process.
the = to apostrophy switch worked but when i highlited the upper case "A"
the find and replace screen showed the correct "(" symbol and not the "A"
symbol that showed in my text on the screen and in the printed output.
the whole thing is weird.
i copied and pasted a portion of the document that is the focus of my
concerns.
-President Wilson=s King-Crane Commission - = instead of '
-states, AAll men are created equal€�- an A istead of "
-and they defend themselvesY The country - Y instead of closing quote
character

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The document could well have been converted and saved as a Word file at some
point in the past. As long as the user who was working on it had the WP
Typographic Symbols font installed, he/she would not be aware that the
symbols were not the standard issue. Only when it's opened on a machine
without the font does the problem arise (or become noticeable). This has
nothing to do with the application version or paragraph settings or selected
font.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"gord phlan" wrote in message
...
thank you.
sounds reasonable.
the messageSEEMED to indicate it was a msword .doc not wp.
would these corrupted characters appear on the other recipients? i suspect
it would vary depending on the program and the version on the recipient
machine? and the default para settings?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

This particular character substitution generally is a result of opening
a
document that at some point originated in WordPerfect and used the WP
Typographic Symbols font for quotes, apostrophes, dashes, etc. As long
as
the font is installed, you get what look like ordinary symbols (though
they
come from the WP font and not the default paragraph font), but if the
font
is not available, you get the equivalent in the DPF. You can approach
the
problem from either of two directions: you can install the required font
(temporary Band-Aid), or you can convert the symbols to their Unicode
equivalent in the DPF.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"gord phlan" gord wrote in message
...
i have msword as part of msoffice, version 2002.
i rcvd a msword doc and apostrophys show as = signs, and there are
other
oddities that repeat.
is this possibly due to generation on a more recent version that is
not
bacward compatible?

[[email protected]]

Take a closer look at that upper-case A. I'll bet it has some kind of
an accent mark (diacritic) above it. Use Control+H again; this time
COPY the "A" that you don't like and Paste it into the Find line. Then
put your parens into the replace line. And fire away!

BTW, once you get the substitutions figured out, you can record them
as a Macro and run it on any future documents of this kind.


Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:48:00 -0700, gord phlan
wrote:

|thank you very much.
|
|i am passing these clarifications on to the person/office thatdid the
|keyboarding in the hope that she can re-edit the document to make it readable
|by all who received it.
|i tried to correct thing with the cnrl+h process.
|the = to apostrophy switch worked but when i highlited the upper case "A"
|the find and replace screen showed the correct "(" symbol and not the "A"
|symbol that showed in my text on the screen and in the printed output.
|the whole thing is weird.
|i copied and pasted a portion of the document that is the focus of my
|concerns.
|-President Wilson=s King-Crane Commission - = instead of '
|-states, AAll men are created equal?- an A istead of "
|-and they defend themselvesY The country - Y instead of closing quote
|character
|
|"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
|
| The document could well have been converted and saved as a Word file at some
| point in the past. As long as the user who was working on it had the WP
| Typographic Symbols font installed, he/she would not be aware that the
| symbols were not the standard issue. Only when it's opened on a machine
| without the font does the problem arise (or become noticeable). This has
| nothing to do with the application version or paragraph settings or selected
| font.
|
| --
| Suzanne S. Barnhill
| Microsoft MVP (Word)
| Words into Type
| Fairhope, Alabama USA
| Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
| Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
| all may benefit.
|
| "gord phlan" wrote in message
| ...
| thank you.
| sounds reasonable.
| the messageSEEMED to indicate it was a msword .doc not wp.
| would these corrupted characters appear on the other recipients? i suspect
| it would vary depending on the program and the version on the recipient
| machine? and the default para settings?
|
| "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
|
| This particular character substitution generally is a result of opening
| a
| document that at some point originated in WordPerfect and used the WP
| Typographic Symbols font for quotes, apostrophes, dashes, etc. As long
| as
| the font is installed, you get what look like ordinary symbols (though
| they
| come from the WP font and not the default paragraph font), but if the
| font
| is not available, you get the equivalent in the DPF. You can approach
| the
| problem from either of two directions: you can install the required font
| (temporary Band-Aid), or you can convert the symbols to their Unicode
| equivalent in the DPF.
|
| --
| Suzanne S. Barnhill
| Microsoft MVP (Word)
| Words into Type
| Fairhope, Alabama USA
| Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
| Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
| newsgroup so
| all may benefit.
|
| "gord phlan" gord wrote in message
| ...
| i have msword as part of msoffice, version 2002.
| i rcvd a msword doc and apostrophys show as = signs, and there are
| other
| oddities that repeat.
| is this possibly due to generation on a more recent version that is
| not
| bacward compatible?
|
|
|
|

[gord phlan[_2_]]

thanx.
i did highlite and copy and paste but the pasted character was not the
copied character.
I copied the A and it pasted as (
the A i copied was in a different font from normal. it had no mark above
but appeared a hair lower.

" wrote:

Take a closer look at that upper-case A. I'll bet it has some kind of
an accent mark (diacritic) above it. Use Control+H again; this time
COPY the "A" that you don't like and Paste it into the Find line. Then
put your parens into the replace line. And fire away!

BTW, once you get the substitutions figured out, you can record them
as a Macro and run it on any future documents of this kind.


Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:48:00 -0700, gord phlan
wrote:

|thank you very much.
|
|i am passing these clarifications on to the person/office thatdid the
|keyboarding in the hope that she can re-edit the document to make it readable
|by all who received it.
|i tried to correct thing with the cnrl+h process.
|the = to apostrophy switch worked but when i highlited the upper case "A"
|the find and replace screen showed the correct "(" symbol and not the "A"
|symbol that showed in my text on the screen and in the printed output.
|the whole thing is weird.
|i copied and pasted a portion of the document that is the focus of my
|concerns.
|-President Wilson=s King-Crane Commission - = instead of '
|-states, AAll men are created equal?- an A istead of "
|-and they defend themselvesY The country - Y instead of closing quote
|character
|
|"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
|
| The document could well have been converted and saved as a Word file at some
| point in the past. As long as the user who was working on it had the WP
| Typographic Symbols font installed, he/she would not be aware that the
| symbols were not the standard issue. Only when it's opened on a machine
| without the font does the problem arise (or become noticeable). This has
| nothing to do with the application version or paragraph settings or selected
| font.
|
| --
| Suzanne S. Barnhill
| Microsoft MVP (Word)
| Words into Type
| Fairhope, Alabama USA
| Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
| Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
| all may benefit.
|
| "gord phlan" wrote in message
| ...
| thank you.
| sounds reasonable.
| the messageSEEMED to indicate it was a msword .doc not wp.
| would these corrupted characters appear on the other recipients? i suspect
| it would vary depending on the program and the version on the recipient
| machine? and the default para settings?
|
| "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
|
| This particular character substitution generally is a result of opening
| a
| document that at some point originated in WordPerfect and used the WP
| Typographic Symbols font for quotes, apostrophes, dashes, etc. As long
| as
| the font is installed, you get what look like ordinary symbols (though
| they
| come from the WP font and not the default paragraph font), but if the
| font
| is not available, you get the equivalent in the DPF. You can approach
| the
| problem from either of two directions: you can install the required font
| (temporary Band-Aid), or you can convert the symbols to their Unicode
| equivalent in the DPF.
|
| --
| Suzanne S. Barnhill
| Microsoft MVP (Word)
| Words into Type
| Fairhope, Alabama USA
| Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
| Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
| newsgroup so
| all may benefit.
|
| "gord phlan" gord wrote in message
| ...
| i have msword as part of msoffice, version 2002.
| i rcvd a msword doc and apostrophys show as = signs, and there are
| other
| oddities that repeat.
| is this possibly due to generation on a more recent version that is
| not
| bacward compatible?
|
|
|
|

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

What you see in the Find and Replace dialog will often look different from
what you copied, but the replace will work anyway. You can try Find Next to
see if it finds the right thing.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"gord phlan" wrote in message
...
thanx.
i did highlite and copy and paste but the pasted character was not the
copied character.
I copied the A and it pasted as (
the A i copied was in a different font from normal. it had no mark above
but appeared a hair lower.

" wrote:

Take a closer look at that upper-case A. I'll bet it has some kind of
an accent mark (diacritic) above it. Use Control+H again; this time
COPY the "A" that you don't like and Paste it into the Find line. Then
put your parens into the replace line. And fire away!

BTW, once you get the substitutions figured out, you can record them
as a Macro and run it on any future documents of this kind.


Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:48:00 -0700, gord phlan
wrote:

|thank you very much.
|
|i am passing these clarifications on to the person/office thatdid the
|keyboarding in the hope that she can re-edit the document to make it
readable
|by all who received it.
|i tried to correct thing with the cnrl+h process.
|the = to apostrophy switch worked but when i highlited the upper case
"A"
|the find and replace screen showed the correct "(" symbol and not the
"A"
|symbol that showed in my text on the screen and in the printed output.
|the whole thing is weird.
|i copied and pasted a portion of the document that is the focus of my
|concerns.
|-President Wilson=s King-Crane Commission - = instead of '
|-states, AAll men are created equal?- an A istead of "
|-and they defend themselvesY The country - Y instead of closing quote
|character
|
|"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
|
| The document could well have been converted and saved as a Word file
at some
| point in the past. As long as the user who was working on it had the
WP
| Typographic Symbols font installed, he/she would not be aware that
the
| symbols were not the standard issue. Only when it's opened on a
machine
| without the font does the problem arise (or become noticeable). This
has
| nothing to do with the application version or paragraph settings or
selected
| font.
|
| --
| Suzanne S. Barnhill
| Microsoft MVP (Word)
| Words into Type
| Fairhope, Alabama USA
| Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
| Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
| all may benefit.
|
| "gord phlan" wrote in message
| ...
| thank you.
| sounds reasonable.
| the messageSEEMED to indicate it was a msword .doc not wp.
| would these corrupted characters appear on the other recipients? i
suspect
| it would vary depending on the program and the version on the
recipient
| machine? and the default para settings?
|
| "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
|
| This particular character substitution generally is a result of
opening
| a
| document that at some point originated in WordPerfect and used
the WP
| Typographic Symbols font for quotes, apostrophes, dashes, etc. As
long
| as
| the font is installed, you get what look like ordinary symbols
(though
| they
| come from the WP font and not the default paragraph font), but if
the
| font
| is not available, you get the equivalent in the DPF. You can
approach
| the
| problem from either of two directions: you can install the
required font
| (temporary Band-Aid), or you can convert the symbols to their
Unicode
| equivalent in the DPF.
|
| --
| Suzanne S. Barnhill
| Microsoft MVP (Word)
| Words into Type
| Fairhope, Alabama USA
| Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
| Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
| newsgroup so
| all may benefit.
|
| "gord phlan" gord wrote in
message
| ...
| i have msword as part of msoffice, version 2002.
| i rcvd a msword doc and apostrophys show as = signs, and there
are
| other
| oddities that repeat.
| is this possibly due to generation on a more recent version
that is
| not
| bacward compatible?
|
|
|
|