[Ken Mayer]

Word 2007. I have a document I am building that requires the use of Sections
to allow me to have different headers (the footers can mostly remain the
same). The problem I am having is when I use the new section (Page Break)
option, after about the third or fourth break, the size of the headers and
footers revert to 1" tall, while in the earlier sections they are smaller,
about the right size, really. I would like new sections to retain the size,
but I cannot seem to find any option to set the height of a header or footer.
(According to my wife this issue has been around for some time.) If this is
not possible, is there some other way to do what I need, rather than the
section breaks?

The reason I am using the headers for the different sections is because I am
using tables to layout what is basically a script (for a play) format, and
when I get to the bottom of the page, letting the table wrap over to the new
page. By doing it this way, if I need to insert/modify the script the table
automatically handles readjusting (inserting/removing rows, etc.) and I don't
have to modify the location of the headers, by turning off the table (or
having many tables for a single script, one for each page of the document,
with a manual page title added at the top of each page saying something like
"This script, continued").

I am open to being told that perhaps there's a better way to do this, but I
would love to find there's a way to resolve the problem as is, because I
don't really want to have to start over ...

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

If you're copy/pasting into the header, you're experiencing one of my
unfavorite bugs in Word. No matter how carefully you copy excluding the
paragraph mark and paste including the paragraph mark, Word will still
insert an extra, empty paragraph under the text you pasted. If you don't
have nonprinting characters displayed, you may not realize this. Those extra
paragraphs, of course, may push the top margin down. For more on
headers/footers, see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm

I'm sure you're aware that you can repeat table headings without using the
header, but if you want "continued," a header is one of the easier ways of
doing it. And the StyleRef field offers a way to have varied headers without
section breaks.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ken Mayer" Ken wrote in message
...
Word 2007. I have a document I am building that requires the use of
Sections
to allow me to have different headers (the footers can mostly remain the
same). The problem I am having is when I use the new section (Page Break)
option, after about the third or fourth break, the size of the headers and
footers revert to 1" tall, while in the earlier sections they are smaller,
about the right size, really. I would like new sections to retain the
size,
but I cannot seem to find any option to set the height of a header or
footer.
(According to my wife this issue has been around for some time.) If this
is
not possible, is there some other way to do what I need, rather than the
section breaks?

The reason I am using the headers for the different sections is because I
am
using tables to layout what is basically a script (for a play) format, and
when I get to the bottom of the page, letting the table wrap over to the
new
page. By doing it this way, if I need to insert/modify the script the
table
automatically handles readjusting (inserting/removing rows, etc.) and I
don't
have to modify the location of the headers, by turning off the table (or
having many tables for a single script, one for each page of the document,
with a manual page title added at the top of each page saying something
like
"This script, continued").

I am open to being told that perhaps there's a better way to do this, but
I
would love to find there's a way to resolve the problem as is, because I
don't really want to have to start over ...

[Ken Mayer[_2_]]

Thanks for the suggestions.

After posting, I took another look (I've been messing with this on and off
all morning, and earlier this week). It appears that sometimes when you add a
new section/page break, the margins for the new section default back to the
Word default, rather than using the current settings in the document. By
going and re-setting the margins to the custom margins I had set up at the
beginning of the document, for the faulty sections, the footers and headers
are now where they should be. Truly odd. This appears to be a bug, but I
don't know how to post bug reports to Microsoft ...

Thanks again.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you're copy/pasting into the header, you're experiencing one of my
unfavorite bugs in Word. No matter how carefully you copy excluding the
paragraph mark and paste including the paragraph mark, Word will still
insert an extra, empty paragraph under the text you pasted. If you don't
have nonprinting characters displayed, you may not realize this. Those extra
paragraphs, of course, may push the top margin down. For more on
headers/footers, see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm

I'm sure you're aware that you can repeat table headings without using the
header, but if you want "continued," a header is one of the easier ways of
doing it. And the StyleRef field offers a way to have varied headers without
section breaks.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ken Mayer" Ken wrote in message
...
Word 2007. I have a document I am building that requires the use of
Sections
to allow me to have different headers (the footers can mostly remain the
same). The problem I am having is when I use the new section (Page Break)
option, after about the third or fourth break, the size of the headers and
footers revert to 1" tall, while in the earlier sections they are smaller,
about the right size, really. I would like new sections to retain the
size,
but I cannot seem to find any option to set the height of a header or
footer.
(According to my wife this issue has been around for some time.) If this
is
not possible, is there some other way to do what I need, rather than the
section breaks?

The reason I am using the headers for the different sections is because I
am
using tables to layout what is basically a script (for a play) format, and
when I get to the bottom of the page, letting the table wrap over to the
new
page. By doing it this way, if I need to insert/modify the script the
table
automatically handles readjusting (inserting/removing rows, etc.) and I
don't
have to modify the location of the headers, by turning off the table (or
having many tables for a single script, one for each page of the document,
with a manual page title added at the top of each page saying something
like
"This script, continued").

I am open to being told that perhaps there's a better way to do this, but
I
would love to find there's a way to resolve the problem as is, because I
don't really want to have to start over ...

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

If this really is happening, it would definitely be a bug, but I am
skeptical. Could anything else account for the effect? When you set the
margins, were you careful to select "Whole document" rather than "This
section"? If you start with a single section, you shouldn't have any other
choice, but if there were more than one section... Just grasping at straws.
And of course there are some very strange things in Word 2007 (which I'm not
running yet, so I can't test it here).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ken Mayer" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the suggestions.

After posting, I took another look (I've been messing with this on and off
all morning, and earlier this week). It appears that sometimes when you
add a
new section/page break, the margins for the new section default back to
the
Word default, rather than using the current settings in the document. By
going and re-setting the margins to the custom margins I had set up at the
beginning of the document, for the faulty sections, the footers and
headers
are now where they should be. Truly odd. This appears to be a bug, but I
don't know how to post bug reports to Microsoft ...

Thanks again.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you're copy/pasting into the header, you're experiencing one of my
unfavorite bugs in Word. No matter how carefully you copy excluding the
paragraph mark and paste including the paragraph mark, Word will still
insert an extra, empty paragraph under the text you pasted. If you don't
have nonprinting characters displayed, you may not realize this. Those
extra
paragraphs, of course, may push the top margin down. For more on
headers/footers, see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm

I'm sure you're aware that you can repeat table headings without using
the
header, but if you want "continued," a header is one of the easier ways
of
doing it. And the StyleRef field offers a way to have varied headers
without
section breaks.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ken Mayer" Ken wrote in message
...
Word 2007. I have a document I am building that requires the use of
Sections
to allow me to have different headers (the footers can mostly remain
the
same). The problem I am having is when I use the new section (Page
Break)
option, after about the third or fourth break, the size of the headers
and
footers revert to 1" tall, while in the earlier sections they are
smaller,
about the right size, really. I would like new sections to retain the
size,
but I cannot seem to find any option to set the height of a header or
footer.
(According to my wife this issue has been around for some time.) If
this
is
not possible, is there some other way to do what I need, rather than
the
section breaks?

The reason I am using the headers for the different sections is
because I
am
using tables to layout what is basically a script (for a play) format,
and
when I get to the bottom of the page, letting the table wrap over to
the
new
page. By doing it this way, if I need to insert/modify the script the
table
automatically handles readjusting (inserting/removing rows, etc.) and
I
don't
have to modify the location of the headers, by turning off the table
(or
having many tables for a single script, one for each page of the
document,
with a manual page title added at the top of each page saying
something
like
"This script, continued").

I am open to being told that perhaps there's a better way to do this,
but
I
would love to find there's a way to resolve the problem as is, because
I
don't really want to have to start over ...