[andytj]

If I have set up a document with 4 columns in landscape, but I wish to put a
frame or picture or text box on page 3 which spans 2 columns - how do I do
this?
In Lotus it's easy with frames and does not mess up the arrangement of
columns on the rest of the page. When I look up about frames the help file
only talks about web pages!
Any suggestions?
andy

[garfield-n-odie [MVP]]

You could use a text box formatted with square text wrapping.

andytj wrote:

If I have set up a document with 4 columns in landscape, but I wish to put a
frame or picture or text box on page 3 which spans 2 columns - how do I do
this?
In Lotus it's easy with frames and does not mess up the arrangement of
columns on the rest of the page. When I look up about frames the help file
only talks about web pages!
Any suggestions?
andy

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...panColumns.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"andytj" wrote in message
...
If I have set up a document with 4 columns in landscape, but I wish to put
a
frame or picture or text box on page 3 which spans 2 columns - how do I do
this?
In Lotus it's easy with frames and does not mess up the arrangement of
columns on the rest of the page. When I look up about frames the help file
only talks about web pages!
Any suggestions?
andy

[andytj]

Thanks - I'll have a play.
Where do I find out more about the use of frames in a Word document?
andy

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...panColumns.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"andytj" wrote in message
...
If I have set up a document with 4 columns in landscape, but I wish to put
a
frame or picture or text box on page 3 which spans 2 columns - how do I do
this?
In Lotus it's easy with frames and does not mess up the arrangement of
columns on the rest of the page. When I look up about frames the help file
only talks about web pages!
Any suggestions?
andy

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Frames are a bit harder to come by in recent versions of Word. They were
removed from the Insert menu in Word 97, and the Customize dialog
confusingly listed the command as "Horizontal." By Word 2000, the command
was back in Customize as Frame in the Insert category, so you could add it
back to the Insert menu if you use it frequently. There is also an Insert
Frame button on the Forms toolbar.

For most purposes, a text box will work just as well, but in Word versions
before Word 2007, Word can't "see" text in a text box for the purpose of a
TOC or cross-references, so you don't want to put headings in a text box if
you're going to need to reference them. Although you can create a text box
and convert it to a frame (button on the Text Box tab of Format Text Box),
it's usually easier to start with a frame. Frames have the advantage that
they can be seen (albeit not in place) in Normal view and also that they can
be incorporated in a paragraph style, making framed text easy to insert.

There's not a lot of Help available about frames; many of their controls are
similar to those of text boxes, just more limited (frames have only two
kinds of wrapping--None and Around), and their borders are applied/removed
in the Format | Borders and Shading dialog, as opposed to text box borders
which are the Line on the Colors and Lines tab of Format Text Box. Most of
this you just learn empirically, I think.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"andytj" wrote in message
...
Thanks - I'll have a play.
Where do I find out more about the use of frames in a Word document?
andy

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...panColumns.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"andytj" wrote in message
...
If I have set up a document with 4 columns in landscape, but I wish to
put
a
frame or picture or text box on page 3 which spans 2 columns - how do
I do
this?
In Lotus it's easy with frames and does not mess up the arrangement
of
columns on the rest of the page. When I look up about frames the help
file
only talks about web pages!
Any suggestions?
andy

[andytj]

Thanks very much, Suzanne
andy

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Frames are a bit harder to come by in recent versions of Word. They were
removed from the Insert menu in Word 97, and the Customize dialog
confusingly listed the command as "Horizontal." By Word 2000, the command
was back in Customize as Frame in the Insert category, so you could add it
back to the Insert menu if you use it frequently. There is also an Insert
Frame button on the Forms toolbar.

For most purposes, a text box will work just as well, but in Word versions
before Word 2007, Word can't "see" text in a text box for the purpose of a
TOC or cross-references, so you don't want to put headings in a text box if
you're going to need to reference them. Although you can create a text box
and convert it to a frame (button on the Text Box tab of Format Text Box),
it's usually easier to start with a frame. Frames have the advantage that
they can be seen (albeit not in place) in Normal view and also that they can
be incorporated in a paragraph style, making framed text easy to insert.

There's not a lot of Help available about frames; many of their controls are
similar to those of text boxes, just more limited (frames have only two
kinds of wrapping--None and Around), and their borders are applied/removed
in the Format | Borders and Shading dialog, as opposed to text box borders
which are the Line on the Colors and Lines tab of Format Text Box. Most of
this you just learn empirically, I think.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"andytj" wrote in message
...
Thanks - I'll have a play.
Where do I find out more about the use of frames in a Word document?
andy

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...panColumns.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"andytj" wrote in message
...
If I have set up a document with 4 columns in landscape, but I wish to
put
a
frame or picture or text box on page 3 which spans 2 columns - how do
I do
this?
In Lotus it's easy with frames and does not mess up the arrangement
of
columns on the rest of the page. When I look up about frames the help
file
only talks about web pages!
Any suggestions?
andy

[andytj]

Just a follow-up - I have moved to Publisher and all the Word problems have
gone away, other than persuading it to print my 28page booklet properly. I
had got into master and sub-documents which kept corrupting themselves etc.
He Ho!
andy

"andytj" wrote:

Thanks very much, Suzanne
andy

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Frames are a bit harder to come by in recent versions of Word. They were
removed from the Insert menu in Word 97, and the Customize dialog
confusingly listed the command as "Horizontal." By Word 2000, the command
was back in Customize as Frame in the Insert category, so you could add it
back to the Insert menu if you use it frequently. There is also an Insert
Frame button on the Forms toolbar.

For most purposes, a text box will work just as well, but in Word versions
before Word 2007, Word can't "see" text in a text box for the purpose of a
TOC or cross-references, so you don't want to put headings in a text box if
you're going to need to reference them. Although you can create a text box
and convert it to a frame (button on the Text Box tab of Format Text Box),
it's usually easier to start with a frame. Frames have the advantage that
they can be seen (albeit not in place) in Normal view and also that they can
be incorporated in a paragraph style, making framed text easy to insert.

There's not a lot of Help available about frames; many of their controls are
similar to those of text boxes, just more limited (frames have only two
kinds of wrapping--None and Around), and their borders are applied/removed
in the Format | Borders and Shading dialog, as opposed to text box borders
which are the Line on the Colors and Lines tab of Format Text Box. Most of
this you just learn empirically, I think.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"andytj" wrote in message
...
Thanks - I'll have a play.
Where do I find out more about the use of frames in a Word document?
andy

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...panColumns.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"andytj" wrote in message
...
If I have set up a document with 4 columns in landscape, but I wish to
put
a
frame or picture or text box on page 3 which spans 2 columns - how do
I do
this?
In Lotus it's easy with frames and does not mess up the arrangement
of
columns on the rest of the page. When I look up about frames the help
file
only talks about web pages!
Any suggestions?
andy