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Hi Jan
My experience is that once Word 2002 is fully patched (that now means Service Pack 3), you may still see (eg) "Heading 1 Char", but you won't see (eg) "Heading 1 Char Char Char". But that only applies to *new* documents or documents based on a template that is itself not suffering from the Char Char infestation. Applying the service packs won't change old documents; but it will prevent new documents from being a problem. And just to reiterate the problem: In Word 2002 or Word 2003 if you select *part* of a paragraph and apply a paragraph style just to that part, then Word creates a "Char" style that is a kind of pseudo-paragraph style, pseudo-character style. It does this because it needs to distinguish (say) "Heading 1", the real paragraph style that has properties that only apply to a paragraph style (eg line spacing), from "Heading 1 Char", the more-or-less character style that does not have paragraph-type properties. If, however, you select *all* of the paragraph, or just click in the paragraph and select nothing, then no "Char" style is created. Hope this helps. Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP. http://www.shaunakelly.com/word "Janicek" wrote in message ... You mention having the most recent service pak. My machine has Ver5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Built 2600. Near as I can tell, this is the latest service pack. Yet the Char problem persists. So, aside from the other settings that you mention in your reply to Mary, should I assume that the problem will not be further resolved in XP? Jan "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macinto" wrote: Hi Mary: The Char Char bug bites worst in Word 2002 (Word XP). However, there is a service pack available that alleviates some of the problems. Check that the bad machine has the most recent service pack applied. The Char Char bug is normally caused by a combination of "Keep track of formatting" and users running in Page Layout mode with their paragraph marks turned off. If the user selects text in a paragraph, but does not select the paragraph mark at the end of it, then applies a style, Word creates a new style containing only the Character formatting properties and applies that instead of the style chosen. The new style has the same name as the style the user chose, with "Char" appended at the end. This new style is known as a "Linked Style". It appears in the style task pane along with the original style, and unless the task pane is set very wide, looks identical. If the next time the user wants to format something, they choose the Char style instead, but they still have not selected a whole paragraph, Word creates another linked style: "Char Char". And so on. To fix this, you must first turn OFF "Keep track of formatting" and secondly, restrict the Task Pane to showing only the original styles. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...844491033.aspx You must then restrict the Task Pane to showing only the styles you want used: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...447461033.aspx And http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...349211033.aspx I was hoping there would be a description of how to restrict the list of styles displayed there. Shauna has an excellent write-up he http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/sfpa...ttingPane.html Hope this helps On 13/3/06 5:06 PM, in article , "Mary" wrote: Recently documents based on one of our regularly-used Word templates have been beset by the styles changing to Char Char. The affected documents seem to originate from one user's computer. For example, on Friday I worked on a document where all our usual styles were correctly applied. He then made some minor changes and returned the document to me. When a paragraph is selected almost anywhere in that document, the style box on the toolbar and the selected style in the formatting pane show Char Char. In this 70 page document, the only place where the original styles are still listed seems to be the header, footer and TOC. The attributes of this Char Char style are Normal + Font: (Default) Verdana, 10pt, Line spacing: Exactly 12 pt, Space After: 8pt. The attributes of our Normal style a Font: (Default) Arial, 11pt, English (U.S.), Left, Line spacing; single, Space After: 6pt, Widow/Orphan control. The paragraphs that are listed as Char Char still look as they should stylewise -- Heading 1's, bullets, etc. look as they should and there is no sign of Verdana in the document. I tried using the Find and Replace function to root out the style. I tried searching for style Char Char (which was listed in Style dropdown) but Word says "search item not found." When I first encountered one of the affected documents last week, I tried to overcome it by pasting all content into a new document based on template using paste special as unformatted text but the Char Char still infested the new document. I think it may have come over with a graphic. I've googled the MS Word newsgroups to see if anyone has a solution for this issue but thus far I've found none. In our case, we are seeing all the styles being replaced by Char Char rather than the more frequent problem of having Char appended to Style names. Any suggestions on how to remove the Char Char from documents and how to stop it occuring in the future? We are using Office 2003 on Windows XP. -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical Writer Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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