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I've got a very long document with many heading levels. When I try to use
the format painter to transfer the style of one heading to another, I get an unwanted change in format. First, I click on the heading that has the format that I want to copy, and then click the format painter icon on the tool bar. Sor far, so good. Next, I click on the heading that I want to recieve the format. It gets the new format. So far, so good. Unfortuantely, the first heading that had the format being copied is mysteriously changed to a new format. Not good. To prevent this from happending, I've turned off all of the autocorrect and autoformat things I can find, but the probelm persists. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your help! |
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Sorry it took so long for you to get to the group, Tim, but the fact is that
if this is a document of any length with a lot of heading levels you really would be far better off to learn to use Styles for your formatting rather than relying on direct formatting & the frivolous piece of frippery called the Format Painter... especially if the doc may have to be revised periodically. What you're experiencing is quite probably just an omen of worse to come, eventually resulting in corruption of the doc which will render it unusable. You first might want to have a look he http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/concepts/styles/ as well as the other relevant pages on Shauna's [excellent] site, and also peruse the information he http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting.htm for more guidance. If you need any help on specific issues don't hesitate to pose your questions to the appropriate group. -- HTH |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "Tim" wrote in message ... I've got a very long document with many heading levels. When I try to use the format painter to transfer the style of one heading to another, I get an unwanted change in format. First, I click on the heading that has the format that I want to copy, and then click the format painter icon on the tool bar. Sor far, so good. Next, I click on the heading that I want to recieve the format. It gets the new format. So far, so good. Unfortuantely, the first heading that had the format being copied is mysteriously changed to a new format. Not good. To prevent this from happending, I've turned off all of the autocorrect and autoformat things I can find, but the probelm persists. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your help! |
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Hi Tim,
I have not heard of such an issue before. Which version do you use? You didn't mention the formatting change that was made to the paragraph you copied the format from. Even better would be some reproducible steps to see the problem. Does the change occur on copying, or on pasting (as your description suggests)? Regards, Klaus "Tim" wrote: I've got a very long document with many heading levels. When I try to use the format painter to transfer the style of one heading to another, I get an unwanted change in format. First, I click on the heading that has the format that I want to copy, and then click the format painter icon on the tool bar. Sor far, so good. Next, I click on the heading that I want to recieve the format. It gets the new format. So far, so good. Unfortuantely, the first heading that had the format being copied is mysteriously changed to a new format. Not good. To prevent this from happending, I've turned off all of the autocorrect and autoformat things I can find, but the probelm persists. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your help! |
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Hi John,
Thanks, I will play a bit with your info. Sounds like one more reason to hate linked styles... Regards, Klaus "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote: Hi Klaus: Yep: I have heard of it :-) Any combination of Automatic Update, Keep Track of Formatting and Linked Styles will do this :-) What's happening is that he's painting a "format" into a linked style that is set to automatically update. When he does that, the entire document updates :-) As Bob says, the user's better off learning to use Styles properly, because the inside of that document is rapidly turning into format salad and it will be very unstable. Cheers On 22/7/06 8:00 AM, in article , "Klaus Linke" wrote: Hi Tim, I have not heard of such an issue before. Which version do you use? You didn't mention the formatting change that was made to the paragraph you copied the format from. Even better would be some reproducible steps to see the problem. Does the change occur on copying, or on pasting (as your description suggests)? Regards, Klaus "Tim" wrote: I've got a very long document with many heading levels. When I try to use the format painter to transfer the style of one heading to another, I get an unwanted change in format. First, I click on the heading that has the format that I want to copy, and then click the format painter icon on the tool bar. Sor far, so good. Next, I click on the heading that I want to recieve the format. It gets the new format. So far, so good. Unfortuantely, the first heading that had the format being copied is mysteriously changed to a new format. Not good. To prevent this from happending, I've turned off all of the autocorrect and autoformat things I can find, but the probelm persists. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your help! -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical Writer Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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Hi Klaus -
Please don't get the wrong impression - It isn't so much the linked styles that is the problem. It's that when styles are linked but you don't know it and didn't create them & don't even know that styles are involved or what they are and you've got direct formatting interjected... that the issue starts to eat you - and your doc - alive. (Or at least approaches the level of panic I tried to infer in that last sentence.) ![]() Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 7/21/06 10:58 PM, in article , "Klaus Linke" wrote: Hi John, Thanks, I will play a bit with your info. Sounds like one more reason to hate linked styles... Regards, Klaus "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote: Hi Klaus: Yep: I have heard of it :-) Any combination of Automatic Update, Keep Track of Formatting and Linked Styles will do this :-) What's happening is that he's painting a "format" into a linked style that is set to automatically update. When he does that, the entire document updates :-) As Bob says, the user's better off learning to use Styles properly, because the inside of that document is rapidly turning into format salad and it will be very unstable. Cheers On 22/7/06 8:00 AM, in article , "Klaus Linke" wrote: Hi Tim, I have not heard of such an issue before. Which version do you use? You didn't mention the formatting change that was made to the paragraph you copied the format from. Even better would be some reproducible steps to see the problem. Does the change occur on copying, or on pasting (as your description suggests)? Regards, Klaus "Tim" wrote: I've got a very long document with many heading levels. When I try to use the format painter to transfer the style of one heading to another, I get an unwanted change in format. First, I click on the heading that has the format that I want to copy, and then click the format painter icon on the tool bar. Sor far, so good. Next, I click on the heading that I want to recieve the format. It gets the new format. So far, so good. Unfortuantely, the first heading that had the format being copied is mysteriously changed to a new format. Not good. To prevent this from happending, I've turned off all of the autocorrect and autoformat things I can find, but the probelm persists. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your help! -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical Writer Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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Ummm... Yeah, that about covers it :-)
On 22/7/06 2:59 PM, in article , "CyberTaz" wrote: Hi Klaus - Please don't get the wrong impression - It isn't so much the linked styles that is the problem. It's that when styles are linked but you don't know it and didn't create them & don't even know that styles are involved or what they are and you've got direct formatting interjected... that the issue starts to eat you - and your doc - alive. (Or at least approaches the level of panic I tried to infer in that last sentence.) ![]() Regards |:) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac On 7/21/06 10:58 PM, in article , "Klaus Linke" wrote: Hi John, Thanks, I will play a bit with your info. Sounds like one more reason to hate linked styles... Regards, Klaus "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote: Hi Klaus: Yep: I have heard of it :-) Any combination of Automatic Update, Keep Track of Formatting and Linked Styles will do this :-) What's happening is that he's painting a "format" into a linked style that is set to automatically update. When he does that, the entire document updates :-) As Bob says, the user's better off learning to use Styles properly, because the inside of that document is rapidly turning into format salad and it will be very unstable. Cheers On 22/7/06 8:00 AM, in article , "Klaus Linke" wrote: Hi Tim, I have not heard of such an issue before. Which version do you use? You didn't mention the formatting change that was made to the paragraph you copied the format from. Even better would be some reproducible steps to see the problem. Does the change occur on copying, or on pasting (as your description suggests)? Regards, Klaus "Tim" wrote: I've got a very long document with many heading levels. When I try to use the format painter to transfer the style of one heading to another, I get an unwanted change in format. First, I click on the heading that has the format that I want to copy, and then click the format painter icon on the tool bar. Sor far, so good. Next, I click on the heading that I want to recieve the format. It gets the new format. So far, so good. Unfortuantely, the first heading that had the format being copied is mysteriously changed to a new format. Not good. To prevent this from happending, I've turned off all of the autocorrect and autoformat things I can find, but the probelm persists. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your help! -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical Writer Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical Writer Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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Its quite old, but the problem comes from Multilevel List numbering - a bug in Word!!!
If you define a Numbering (Heading) for your document, you may use a multilevel list. Enabling that option, you will adopt the style of the different headings accordingly. 99% of all users will use the ruler. Which works fine and all settings can be stored in STYLES, but those settings are not stored in the Multilevel List settings. If you use now the Format Painter, it will re-apply all settings according the Multilevel List settings - it ignores all current settings. Conclusion Styles and Multilevel List settings are not aligned. Multilevel List settings is always the master and you have to configure that in Multilevel List settings page. Have fun. |
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