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In my organization, we run a combination of Word 2000 and 2003. On some
documents we have .jpg signatures inserted. In 2000, when the document is
protected, another user of 2000 cannot alter anything in the doc.

But when the document is created, saved and protected in 2003, a 2000 user
can click on the signature graphic, resize/move it, and save the document as
the same thing.

I've tried a number of work arounds, all with the same undesirable outcome.

Is it something I'm doing, or is it a bug?

Thanks for any insight.

Jim.
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What are the exact steps you are using to protect the document?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email cannot be acknowledged.

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http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

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"Jim" wrote in message
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In my organization, we run a combination of Word 2000 and 2003. On some
documents we have .jpg signatures inserted. In 2000, when the document is
protected, another user of 2000 cannot alter anything in the doc.

But when the document is created, saved and protected in 2003, a 2000 user
can click on the signature graphic, resize/move it, and save the document
as
the same thing.

I've tried a number of work arounds, all with the same undesirable
outcome.

Is it something I'm doing, or is it a bug?

Thanks for any insight.

Jim.
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Jim Hull
Technical Writer



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Hi Beth, Here they are, assuming the doc is completed and the .jpg is
inserted and placed.
ToolsProtect DocumentProtect doc for tracked changespasswordOKreenter
passwordOK
Save
In Word 2003 - Open
Move/resize graphic as desiredSave.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Jim.
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Jim Hull
Technical Writer


"Beth Melton" wrote:

What are the exact steps you are using to protect the document?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email cannot be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"Jim" wrote in message
...
In my organization, we run a combination of Word 2000 and 2003. On some
documents we have .jpg signatures inserted. In 2000, when the document is
protected, another user of 2000 cannot alter anything in the doc.

But when the document is created, saved and protected in 2003, a 2000 user
can click on the signature graphic, resize/move it, and save the document
as
the same thing.

I've tried a number of work arounds, all with the same undesirable
outcome.

Is it something I'm doing, or is it a bug?

Thanks for any insight.

Jim.
--
Jim Hull
Technical Writer




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Correction to previous post. Doc is created in 2003, and reopened in 2000.
All other steps are as stated.
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"Jim" wrote:

Hi Beth, Here they are, assuming the doc is completed and the .jpg is
inserted and placed.
ToolsProtect DocumentProtect doc for tracked changespasswordOKreenter
passwordOK
Save
In Word 2003 - Open
Move/resize graphic as desiredSave.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Jim.
--
Jim Hull
Technical Writer


"Beth Melton" wrote:

What are the exact steps you are using to protect the document?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email cannot be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"Jim" wrote in message
...
In my organization, we run a combination of Word 2000 and 2003. On some
documents we have .jpg signatures inserted. In 2000, when the document is
protected, another user of 2000 cannot alter anything in the doc.

But when the document is created, saved and protected in 2003, a 2000 user
can click on the signature graphic, resize/move it, and save the document
as
the same thing.

I've tried a number of work arounds, all with the same undesirable
outcome.

Is it something I'm doing, or is it a bug?

Thanks for any insight.

Jim.
--
Jim Hull
Technical Writer




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Default Protected docs between Word 2003 and 2000

If you are protecting a document for tracked changes then you can alter the
file but all revisions will be tracked. Are you sure you aren't thinking of
protecting for Filling in Forms?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email cannot be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Hi Beth, Here they are, assuming the doc is completed and the .jpg is
inserted and placed.
ToolsProtect DocumentProtect doc for tracked changespasswordOKreenter
passwordOK
Save
In Word 2003 - Open
Move/resize graphic as desiredSave.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Jim.
--
Jim Hull
Technical Writer


"Beth Melton" wrote:

What are the exact steps you are using to protect the document?


"Jim" wrote in message
...
In my organization, we run a combination of Word 2000 and 2003. On
some
documents we have .jpg signatures inserted. In 2000, when the document
is
protected, another user of 2000 cannot alter anything in the doc.

But when the document is created, saved and protected in 2003, a 2000
user
can click on the signature graphic, resize/move it, and save the
document
as
the same thing.

I've tried a number of work arounds, all with the same undesirable
outcome.

Is it something I'm doing, or is it a bug?

Thanks for any insight.

Jim.
--
Jim Hull
Technical Writer








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Good Morning Beth, Because of your response, I did some experimenting on the
different settings. The forms protection did the trick! I guess I didn't
fully understand the meaning of the different protections.

Thanks so much for your help.
--
Jim Hull
Technical Writer


"Beth Melton" wrote:

If you are protecting a document for tracked changes then you can alter the
file but all revisions will be tracked. Are you sure you aren't thinking of
protecting for Filling in Forms?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email cannot be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Hi Beth, Here they are, assuming the doc is completed and the .jpg is
inserted and placed.
ToolsProtect DocumentProtect doc for tracked changespasswordOKreenter
passwordOK
Save
In Word 2003 - Open
Move/resize graphic as desiredSave.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Jim.
--
Jim Hull
Technical Writer


"Beth Melton" wrote:

What are the exact steps you are using to protect the document?


"Jim" wrote in message
...
In my organization, we run a combination of Word 2000 and 2003. On
some
documents we have .jpg signatures inserted. In 2000, when the document
is
protected, another user of 2000 cannot alter anything in the doc.

But when the document is created, saved and protected in 2003, a 2000
user
can click on the signature graphic, resize/move it, and save the
document
as
the same thing.

I've tried a number of work arounds, all with the same undesirable
outcome.

Is it something I'm doing, or is it a bug?

Thanks for any insight.

Jim.
--
Jim Hull
Technical Writer






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I'm glad to hear you have it working the way you want. :-)

Just so you know, when you use the Protect Document command this type of
protection isn't intended to be used for security. It's more for working in
a collaborative environment. I suspect you are trying to protect a signature
and the method you are using to do it isn't 100% secure. Any user who has
access to the document can create a new file, click Insert/File and then
insert the contents of the protected file into the new document and the
protection will be stripped.

If you are interested in document security then you might want to look into
Information Rights Management:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...e/of03irm.mspx

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email cannot be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Good Morning Beth, Because of your response, I did some experimenting on
the
different settings. The forms protection did the trick! I guess I didn't
fully understand the meaning of the different protections.

Thanks so much for your help.
--
Jim Hull
Technical Writer


"Beth Melton" wrote:

If you are protecting a document for tracked changes then you can alter
the
file but all revisions will be tracked. Are you sure you aren't thinking
of
protecting for Filling in Forms?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email cannot be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Hi Beth, Here they are, assuming the doc is completed and the .jpg is
inserted and placed.
ToolsProtect DocumentProtect doc for tracked
changespasswordOKreenter
passwordOK
Save
In Word 2003 - Open
Move/resize graphic as desiredSave.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Jim.
--
Jim Hull
Technical Writer


"Beth Melton" wrote:

What are the exact steps you are using to protect the document?


"Jim" wrote in message
...
In my organization, we run a combination of Word 2000 and 2003. On
some
documents we have .jpg signatures inserted. In 2000, when the
document
is
protected, another user of 2000 cannot alter anything in the doc.

But when the document is created, saved and protected in 2003, a
2000
user
can click on the signature graphic, resize/move it, and save the
document
as
the same thing.

I've tried a number of work arounds, all with the same undesirable
outcome.

Is it something I'm doing, or is it a bug?

Thanks for any insight.

Jim.
--
Jim Hull
Technical Writer








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